try using a locally connected monitor and follow /var/log/messages… check dmesg and sth like /var/log/secure?

don’t have local access at the moment

only thing I can think off…

I just emerged VLC player.. and it appears it doesn’t properly start. When you run vlc it just doesn’t actually start. But when you open a file with VLC it starts, but you don’t get any controls or functionality, it just plays.
Is it worth unmerging a emerging again?

perhaps you should define the wxwindows USE flag for it in package.use …

juc0, you forgot use flags, I am sure, check gentoo-wiki.com for vlc or check http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-gentoo.html

oh. What’s that do?
cheers guys

builds it with support for the wxWidgets GUI toolkit (which I guess is what you’re expecting).

probably will help till he misses sound on a dvd, or codecs…

and the player is named wxvlc

awesome. Cheers guys

anybody here familiar with bandwidth limiting using ‘tc’

gentoo juc0 handbook USE flags

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2

lartc.org — usually good ressource for that

That document contains detailed information about USE flags and how to use them

thanks

anyone using PAX or RSBAC with X + (Gnome or KDE) & (xine / vlc / mplayer)

i need shell email client program
is there now any ?

mutt

hmm, i still need help with my kde problem
not sure what to unmerge
it says its all conflicting with kde-base-3.5 but thats not installed =S

mutt, pine, cat/tail/less (last one mostly as a joke)
I can’t reproduce that here, file a bug please

can i use pop3 with pine ?

already filed
well this is gonna piss me off
i cant remove it, or anything

mind the language please

alright
unmerge says it doesnt exist, etc etc

I know
and it works here
as I can’t reproduce it it’s also hard to find the cause

yeh
it only happened after i emerge kuroo

when using the command “sendmail -t -i” to send an webmail hosting message, I get this error message when I go to send: sendmail: Authorization failed (535 5.7.1 Credentials Rejected 26sm3988529wra)
how can I fix it?

Hi. I was wondering if any of you managed to get doomsday to work on amd64 .. because I managed to compile and install it from portage, but when running it I’m getting a segmentation fault..

Where the whack can I find my init controls?
Want to enable sshd, but cannot find where

The easiest way is to use the rc-update scripts. Run “rc-update –help” for usage information

he might not want to have a steady ssh connection

merethan, /etc/init.d/sshd start , rc-update add sshd default – (starts it at default runlevel)

to control ssh you just need to use /etc/init.d/sshd start and sshd stop

You what?

me ?
I was talking about merethan

hey guys i need some help getting started with my first real gentoo install

o/

if I have KDE installed. Do I want a GTK use flag in my make.conf?

anyone got a few minutes

hi, I got this error while building eterm, could anyone identify what’s wrong? http://www.pastebin.com/d55572bba

its ok AllenJB I believe it wasnt a bad idea .. I misunderstand the need many times too

Probably. There are many useful programs that use GTK instead of KDE.

ok

Follow the handbook and if you encounter any issues ask the channel

I got -gtk in my use flags, but I still had to install gtk itself for compiz lol

ok my issue is on the first page of the handbook
i am unable to get online

exyan, nothing shows in that pastebin here

damn it

it recognizes my eth0 but it won’t pull any ip

any E17 peepz round?

does anyone made xgl work?

http://pastebin.com/d55572bba

and i’m installing it on a box that has win 98 on it that works fine dhcp

this should now

USE flags only control optional features. If an application requires GTK, GTK will still be installed regardless of any USE flag values.

yes

Hi at all..

AllenJB I just changed added a gtk use flag, and did an emerge -pvuDN world – And nvidia-drivers came up. is it safe to remerge this?

I’ve This problem..can someone help me,please? http://pastebin.ca/640452

its like it just won’t pull from my dhcp server and when i plug in static ips they won’t route out to anything

AllenJB, those rc-update scripts are actually petty sweet.. RHEL has some stupid graphical client to do it.

i have tried 2007.0 and 2006.1 with the same problem on each

This is just an informational message. With the current setup, SSL/TLS will not work. If this error re-occurs every time you run Pine, your current setup is not
compatible with the configuration of your mail server. You may want to add the option

Gts1983, what do you mean dual boot?? have u set up the gateway (route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) & then run dhcpcd -nd eth0

how can config this ssl ?

so I ask myself about the optional thing you mentioned … why would we need use flags for the video, image and audio codecs … I mean what are they needed for ?

Yes. nvidia-drivers has a gtk USE flag that controls whether the nvidia GUI application is installled or not.

i was emerge pine

hi, I got this error while building eterm, could anyone identify what’s wrong? http://pastebin.com/d55572bba

like png, gif, avi … ect …

They’re needed for playing video and sound and showing images o_O

did you install imlib?

no i’m not running dual boot

try running revdep-rebuild (part of gentoolkit)

i am about to install over the windows operating system that is working perfectly

yep

yes of course … but you said .. if they were needed by an application … lets say gimp … it would install them automaticly

and i really want to use dhcp

i think my server hosting has been rootkit’d
i can’t access ssh, but I can access sftp

that sucks.

any hacky thing I can do?

sec

Gts1983, then run route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx && dhcpcd -nd eth0

I still don’t get what you mean. If a feature is required for a given package, that package won’t have a USE flag to control it.

once gentoo is installed configure net.eth0

ahh ok
I think you answered my question

can’t shh in as any user?

sorry bout the complication ^^

nope

i’ll try that brb

webmin running maybe?

no
just my litespeed server web admin
im writing PHP scripts to run commands
but I can only do so much as just a user

another question I got just now … there must be a tool then to get an output of all packages that support a certain USEflag that I ask for. So if I see those applications dont interest me with that option I could better decide rather to USE the flag or not. do you know a tool of that kind ?

what message do you get when trying to ssh in?

hangs on “Last login”
hrm, maybe no rootkit

if you hit ctrl+c there does it close the connection or bring you to a prompt?

was able to do a nice ps aux
nope it doesnt do anything
ok i can get a ps aux onto a webpage
want to see?

I think euse from the gentoolkit package (iirc) can do that

ahh ! I ll test it right now

cat /etc/passwd

you may just have an sshd issue

sec
yea

I realize its unstable, though, has anyone gotten the nvidia drivers to compile host against the latest git-sources of the linux kernel?

still the same

Does anyone know what the KDE packages are to have the performance monitor and mounted drives on a panel?

ok i did all that and it times out trying to discover a dhcp server

Please http://pastebin.ca/640452

when using the command “sendmail -t -i” to send an email message, I get this error message when I go to send: sendmail: Authorization failed (535 5.7.1 Credentials Rejected 26sm3988529wra)

I got this error while building eterm, could anyone identify what’s wrong? http://pastebin.com/d55572bba

Gts1983, what is your gateway ip?

192.168.0.1
i also got an error when trying to manually add the gateway ip

Hi. I was wondering if any of you managed to get doomsday to work on amd64 .. because I managed to compile and install it from portage, but when running it I’m getting a segmentation fault.. Any help?

so in ifconfig it doesn’t show one

VirtualBox is a vmware killer ! http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9208/snapshot15da3.jpg

Thanks for the link! I’m now making my own “QoS table”… yeah, lets call it that…. The link you gave me rocks!

Gts1983, so if you run “route add default gw 192.168.0.1 && dhcpcd -nd eth0″ it times out?

let me do it again and get you the exact message

I like the “wondershaper” script

emerge -av imlib imlib2

when i type all that i get “network is unreachable”

DrEeevil how can i backup hole nfs directory there are / /home /usr /tmp /etc

I don’t know that script, but I like the fact that I now know how it actually works

sec

Gts1983, is 192.168.0.1 a router or windows ICS

i tried tar czfv bla.tar /diskless/client1/*

Also, can i use zfs on linux? I hear zfs isnt directly integrated into the kernel

linksys router

now I can manage my bittorrent speeds without interfering with latencies and my webserver/mail/ftp

that is running 5 other windows pc via dhcp

but if i veryfy the files he miss some

zfs-fuse works quite well, but it’s not very fast

Gts1983, and eth0 is wired or wireless

wired

Ah, ok

plugged straight into the router

Gts1983, are you running the minimal cd or the live cd?

i am using an older pc 500 mhz 192 mb of ram should i be using the x86 2007 minimal cd?

is positive then show the /tree/name-version of package

i have tried both

make /etc/conf.d/net blank and try /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart

minimal is what i am using now

I can vouch for that

when i run the live cd i get an error about out of disc space and it won’t even boot
ok let me try that dcoats

Any reason why its slow? Isnt a filesystem a filesystem?

zfs-fuse uses fuse to integrate in the kernel, but the zfs process itself is implemented in userspace

Filesystem in USERSPACE

Ohh :-/

….although fuse filesystems can be quite fast

so all filesystemcalls make an addition switch from kernel to usercontext and back
i’ve had 10mb/sec on fuse filesystems tho

i get make command not found

…almost as good as ones in the kernel – eg. ntfs-3g

nothing, same stuff

*on zfs in particular even
ntfs-3g also uses fuse, and is quite fast

i have tried this on 2 pcs and seem to get the same problem on both

rm -rf /root/.revdep* && revdep-rebuild

Any reason why zfs cant be integrated directly into the kernel, isnt zfs open source?

should i try and different version of the cd?

I already did revdep-rebuild

rm -rf /root/.revdep* && revdep-rebuild

i have tried 2006.1 and 2007.0 x86 minimal

k

zfs-fuse also lags behind the Sun official code checkins

it’s incompatible with GPL, and would require some changes to the linux host vfs core

is the module for your card loaded?

i’m not sure how to tell?

Ah.

sorry i am a little new at this

for starters what does lspci say your network adapter is?

ZFS basically replaces the whole VFS and then some

when using the command “sendmail -t -i” to send an email message, I get this error message when I go to send: sendmail: Authorization failed (535 5.7.1 Credentials Rejected 26sm3988529wra)

“Sys_Error: Couldn’t find pak0.pk3.”

eithernet controller is davicom semiconducter

where do I get that file from?

you have to provide it

Gts1983, try route add deafult gw 192.168.0.1 && ifconfig 192.168.0.0/24 && ping 192.168.0.1

you need it from the retail q3, meaning you have to buy it

ah, I see

everytime i try route add default gw i get “network is unreachable”

you may be interested in btrfs, which is aiming to have similar capabilities to zfs, without pooled storage

it can be from the windows version of the q3 cd

i think that card is tulip

I see

lsmod show tulip loaded?

thats what net-setup says tuilp
lsmod does show tulip loaded

same errors

Ill take a look, thanks

btw what’s the package for power tools or something, to switch between performance/powersaver etc?

ok since that one is obviously not going to work can i give you the errors i’m getting with the other pc
its an irq error

any ideas?

not really, thats all it took for me to build eterm

Gts1983, modprobe -r tulip && modprobe -i tulip && route add default gw 192.168.0.1 && dhcpcd -nd eth0

what version of eterm r u usin?

I_R_baboon lemme try that

0.9.4

win#1 – Status window, win#2 – Messages window

how do I tell portage to redownload portage?

is it possible to find out what is making my apache not wanting to listen @ port 80? i did /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and now port80 still seems to be used :/

I mean the sources, not portage lol

informative, but why are you telling us?

misstype

–fetchonly ?

stop apache, wait 10 seconds, then start again

emerge –fetchonly

lol, sorry. i am just messing around irssi and it came out by accident

i stopped it yesterday and still not working ^^

does only download @ exyan

you have to erase the file in /usr/portage/distfiles/ before, though; then –fetchonly should do the trick

hmm, netstat -lp ?

it should overwrite the package shouldnt it ?

“network is unreachable”

coz I’m running out of ideas, noone digs the error ;x

I mean the downloaded source

only if there’s an incorrect md5 / manifest there

hmm

Gts1983, route -nee

and i’m not really sure about that, too

thank you, i found the program now

ahh well its ok I clear ../distfiles/* pretty often

“if shows me a list of possible usages of that the route command”

try http://gentoo.easyshellz.com/gentoo/etc/conf.d/net.basic as /etc/conf.d/net

didnt have problems with md5 and MANIFEST hosting in the last 8 months … last thing was just a customized ebuild that I had to digest

with me it’s the exact opposite: i have a whole partition with 10+ gb reserved only for distfiles xD

Gts1983, no numbers (stuff like a table)?

no ir baboon no table

delete em what you need em for ?
do you wanna open a new Record ?

it’s on my router. he’s playing rsync-server for my network and i find it convenient for it to store my packages for faster dl

sweet

additionally it’s some kind of social conciousness — although I don’t pay for traffic, universities, mirrors and such do.

Hello. So, on the bonehead scale if 0 = feasible and 10 = ‘leave this channel, now’ … how bonehead is it to think I can make the switch from an amd64 laptop to an intel64 and just transplant the harddrive so long as I compile an intel kernel first?

is it alright to # comment the files in /etc/portage ?

yes

I’ve this error emerging glitz

VirtualBox is a vmware killer !

hi all

what cflags?

http://pastebin.ca/640452

Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 22
of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 20.
Some things may be broken…

5

currently… -march=athlon64 -O2 -msse3 -pipe

What parts of portage can I clean up to save space safely?

/usr/portage/distfiles

thats the only one

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Free_up_disk_space_in_Gentoo

and /var/tmp/portage/

ya breakin my heart… but if that’s the way it’s gotta be… :-/

wrong ^^

oha

Gts1983, do what dcoats says, try dhcpcd -k eth0 && dhcpcd -nd eth0, if no luck reboot & try again , laterz

reserve a sole partition for it – that’s the way i did it xD

I guess I never cared that much about my disk space lol have enough space

Sol partition for what?

i have 300gig+ – still i run into shortages occasionally xD
for your distfiles-dir
and then mount it to /usr/portage/distfiles/

hello, how to change the system-wide date format? (I dislike the one included in my locales)

so rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/* ?

can’t be bothered looking at the gcc man page, but does your cflags mean 3DNow is enabled as well?

but ONLY if portage is not running right now xD

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=30547

nono its taking a nap

^^

lol its taking a lot of time

who can tell me whether i should make AF_RXRPC as M or do not use it?

did you look at the description in the kernel ?

there probably are lots of aborted compiles in there. imagine a glibc-compile to freak and dumping ALL it’s stuff extracted in one dir … HUGE ^^

usually it says “If unsure do NOT activate”

santanabaer,thank you

hope I really helped ya
always read the help part of the option you want to build
it says a lot

8 T72 logger: acpid: received a shutdown
8 T72 init: Switching to runlevel:
any idea what did that ?

it says acpid did

lol

dcoats, yeah, but why ? :/
lol

low battery, energy shortage, timed shutdown — everything’s possible.

timed ? I didn’t tell it to do that
no battery
desktop

have a look in the bios

Hi – I am still having problems getting alsa to work. I have been following this excellent guide http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml#initscript

probably the bios sent a signal

I disable acpi on my desktops

tomboy64, why would it do that ?

can I emerge avant-window-navigator on gentoo? or do I have to use the svn repo.

you could probably switch across with few if any issues, just make sure you recompile certain packages with -3dnow if they have that use flag

I compliled the drivers into the kernel, not as a module

tomboy64, no overheating

does –unmerge remove package dependencies, and if so, does it check to make sure they aren’t used by other packages?

well, i have an option for it to shutdown the computer

could have been a temp shutdown by bios settings

thats not it
besides it wasn’t doing anything

and my computer shuts down nicely if i hit the power-button for a short time.

Enmity, no sound at all?

disable acpi in the bios then

tomboy64, lol
grr

when I run “/etc/init.d/alsasound start” I get “*unable to find any ALSA drivers. Have you compiled your drivers correctly?”

another problem is that gentoo itself uses about 9 gb or something- I don’t think I can account for all that in installed stuff- tmp dir is empty; distfiles too :/

no emerge –depclean is used to remove unused dep’s, but it’s very likely to break things

Enmity, I suppose the script expects modules

I am sure I compiled the drivers correctly, I followed the guide at thinkwiki, chose the right chipset for my model,

so can I expect –unmerge to *not* uninstall dependencies for a package at all?

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=30547

aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav – noise or error?

no such device

have a look at krusader – it’s a file-manager for kde. there you have the option to display the used diskspace of the current dir in a cake-diagram

yes, it will only remove that package, nothing else

Hey guys, back. My box problems from last night are NOT hardware, I managed to get XP working. It’s strange that this stuff won’t work in Gentoo though, it must be something in the boot flags. Has anyone done a Gentoo install from 2007.0 on an AM2 NForce 590 system before?

ok thanks

i found it very useful for finding mem-eaters

nope, no sound, lots of errors

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml

Enmity, anyway – alsa is best used as modules

I have a 570, works nicely

Hmm ok, will recompile as modules

also windows is not as intensive as gentoo during install …

Enmity, at least when it comes to troubleshooting

did you have to do anything weird with it? I get to “probing device ide0″ and it freezes every time.

dcoats, tks, looked there already

I always tend to have more problems with modules

oh, got one of those jmicron “ide controller” thingies?

tomboy64, current dir only ? I checked the home dir already; I can’t imagine what takes space in the rest of the file system

nick well, the current dir and it’s subdirs to be exact.
in different rings

the ide controller is onboard, it doesn’t say who makes the controller. I’d have to do some digging.

tomboy64, ok- I don’t suppose u know something like that for gnome ?

DrEeevil, it’s a DFI LanParty UT board, which people have told me repeatedly works well in Gentoo. I’ve also tried Ubu, Kanotix, and Kubuntu live CDs and nothing booted.

DrEeevil, thought jmicron were mainly on intel boards and not nvidia

i got it run fine under gnome — you just have to install and wait for qt and kdelibs to compile xD

jmicron
worst controller

I have a bloody jmicron chip on an nvidia board- works like crap

ok, now I feel like an idiot,going back through make menuconfig, it was selected as a module anyway

hmm, anything attached to IDE ?
I wouldn’t even call that a controller

DrEeevil, yeah, the CD/DVD it’s booting from

xdiskusage also shows what files/dir’s are taking up space

fortunately its used for ide only not sata
loki_chaos, tks

DrEeevil, that’s why I’m so bloody confused, because I know the drive works, I’ve used it in another box, and it’s *booting* from same.

it’s an ide-to-usb converter hack

i have via sata controller which don’t like my dvd writer

hmm, strange
yeah, it’s not a harddisk … many cheap controllers suffer from that

what’s the package for flash :/?

netscape-flash

i can read cd/dvd’s but can’t write

loki_chaos, does that go deep enough ?

DrEeevil, I know, that’s the problem, it’s being weird beyond what I generally know. I can tell you now with 100% certainty there’s no failed hardware, the minute XP finishes booting.

hi all , I have downloaded the language pack for eclipse, how can I install it?

Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 22somethings might be broken

hard to say what happens without knowing what controller(s) you got

you invoke it as xdiskusage /usr, and it will do /usr and all dirs and sub-dirs

Hmm – alsaconf ran fine, told me to have lots of fun even, but when I tried alsamixer again I got “function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device” again

then when using iwconfig to set the essid for the device ig et
Error for wireless request “Set Encode” (8B2A) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
daum daum #

Well, the mainboard manual nor the magical Internet man want to tell me what IDE controller I’ve got. Gimme a minute to keep looking, but I’m currently assuming it’s an Nvidia.

doh=

loki_chaos, tks

Kuprin lspci doesn’t say?

Kuprin, have you tried the cds from http://www.kernel-of-truth.net/downloads_kOT.html? they’re not official but include some extra IDE drivers

it won’t do individual files in it’s diagram, unless you tell it to, some flag… but it’s kinda slow and takes a lot of HD reads, so it will slow other stuff down

No, I haven’t tried that

teach daum nopaste

nopaste is a tool written in ruby, which allows you to specify a file or pipe stuff at, and it gives you a URL at rafb.net with the text that it got. Examples: 1) nopaste /var/log/portage/somelog.log 2) dmesg | grep -i network | nopaste or) Alternatively you can use wgetpaste, which does not depend on ruby.

Kevin`, I have to be booted to something to get LSPCI. I’ll see if Windows will tell me.

k

hi
how would you go about to get xorg rotated on a flatscreen they rotates?

anyways any ideas on the problem

Kuprin windows will tell you the pci ids, if you find the correct device, but you have to look them up manually

Kevin`, how do I do that? I went into device manager and it wouldn’t tell me a whole lot

it’s in the tabs

well, its late here, I will sleep on it and try again another night. thanks anyway all

if I was on dinwos i’d tell you exactly where, but i’m using gentoo at the moment
that was an interesting typo

windows suxxxx

Dim Woes?

Kevin`, lol, yeah. I looked around the tabs and found the PC number, but I’m not sure where to look them up manually from there.

Kuprin google or /usr/share/misc/pci.ids

kevin’ PCI Bus 0, Device 12, Function 0 is what I should be looking up? That’s all it will tell me id-wise.

this is location

how do i rebuild all installed packages?

emerge -e world

ok thanks

it’s a bit hidden, something like DEVICE_ID=8556&4332 or so
you want two four-digit numbers

What does “emake failed” means?

O_o where? I looked through all of the advanced tabs in the device properties for the IDE controllers

it means that emake was unable to complete successfully
if I had any windows near me I could tell you
but … it is gone

DrEeevil, yeah, I know, I hate running windows

What should I do? Emerge a particoular package? Cause Is the second package today..

Funny thing is, Ubuntu does a different thing entirely when I try it, it simply locks up to a blank screen…unless that’s the manifestation of the same bug in ubu.

But all the error comes from emerging og media-libs package..can This help?

there should be some kind of error message happening a few lines above it
the “emake failed” is only a notice that an error happened
pastebin the 20 lines or so above it and I might be able to tell you what happened

There are no useful messages..

what makes you say that

http://pastebin.ca/640517

x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: /usr/lib64/libGL.so: No such file or directory
that is a rather obvious message

Ah.. mh. and..so I miss that file?

DrEeevil, Kevin`, Windows won’t give me a device ID from Device Manager. It’s just reading out as a standard IDE channel.

ah, I think you’re looking at the wrong device
ide channel is part of ide controller iirc

DrEeevil, O_o hmmm…then what device should I be looking at, because there’s no ide controller showing.

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DrEeevil, I hate Windows for a reason, y’know. Why can’t they give me lspci? Also, their activation server is down so I have a 30 day timebomb sitting on my machine.

sounds like they want you to migrate

can you run lspci under cygwin

as far as I know no

DrEeevil, I never wanted Windows running on this box in the first place.

Kuprin, you can also get Belarc or Sandra

I guess I’ll grab sandra

sounds kinky

Oh, and those KernelOfTruth cds use an old 2.6.16 kernel that apparently “may or may not be compatible with nforce 500 chipsets”
Aha, found one with a 2.6.19 kernel, nvm

Kuprin, better download http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html no install!

grknight, thanks!

for a linux channel y’all know way too much windows magic

okay, I have an nvidia Bus Master IDE controller.

Kuprin, what’s the PCI ID numbers?

grknight, 8-digit number? O_o…hmm, 32411E6FE060 is the only id number, which is a bit long

Kuprin, should be like PCI\VEN_8086DEV_266FSUBSYS_009B1025

grknight, oh, okay, you want the first entry in that “path” bit, not the last.
grknight, found that, PCI\VEN_10EDEV_036ESUBSYS_CB8410DEREV_A1\32411E6FE060
grknight, googling that gets me nothing, however.

that is not a pci id

looks more like a windows activation key

Its pretty safe and efficent to re-emerge something with new use flags to get new features right? What if i remove a use flag from a package, will depclean clear unused depedencies?

ROFL, it’s not an activation key, it’s listed as the device ID
I have four Hardware IDs listed below that, the first one is the above minux the last number
*minus, not minux

depclean usually should find unused depencies yes … but always check with emerge -p –depclean first

Yes, depclean and revdep-rebuild will clean up. It’s a lot harder to add, since there is no easy way to compile hosting just what needs to be compiled.

How can I solve that problem?

can I compile straight kernel source as my new kernel

Depending on what needs recompiling an emerge -e package might be enough.

emerge vanilla-sources

Well mean say, i install pidgin, and uh oh, i need gtk suppotr, add use, re-emerge, and lets say i dont want gtk use anymore, if i remeger with the -gtk flag, the gtk features will be gone after depclean your saying?

not sure, that looks like a bug

Ah ok.

DrEeevil, thank you

can anyone recommend a mailthread aware emailclient?

This urxvtd daemon is kinda cool, never though of using it before

mozilla-thunderbird

Yes, but it’s a bad idea. The point of distro kernels is that it’s end user material, where vanilla is something you need to add patches and stuff to yourself, only something high end sysadmins should be messing with.

if you re-emerge it already without gtk USE flag … then gtk support is gone … depclean is there to clean the gtk dependencies then that the package might not need anymore

Vinky, Claws?

Kuprin, odd.. vendor ID 10E isnt registred… it should be 4 numbers.. wonder why yours is only 3

10DE is, and I now have it as that

Ah ok. Just wanna make sure if i play around with flags, i wont have orphaned deps laying around

grknight, 10DE is Nvidia, but the device itself, 036E, isn’t registered.

I’ve the same error emerging glitz..

grknight, apparently nforce 5 isn’t registered at all on pcidatabase.com
grknight, GOT IT. MCP55 IDE Controller just as I thought.

kuprin, Subsystems for device 10de:036e: MCP55 IDE

yes, all opengl applications are broken on your system

So..Should I reemerge opengl?

I wouldn’t worry so much about the orphaned deps

grknight, just got it myself, yeah. So…what should I do? That’s supposed to be supported in Linux.

Kuprin, there is probably a BIOS glitch or something.. try to boot with `gentoo noapic` if you haven’t tried that

grknight, trying that.

can’t login anymore. I’m not promptet for password, it just says “login failed” three times. I first noticed this in other consoles while I was emerging stuff, and after a reboot I can’t login at any consoles anymore.
Like the ‘enter’ key was stuck, but it works fine in other linux installatinos and in windows.

grknight, bios glitches suck. Hopefully I can get this infernal thing working, I HATE WINDOWS!!!

orphaned deps occupy usuful disk space of course it needs to be removed
and I believe its good to have an overview over your system

grknight, gentoo noapic WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *HUGS TIGHT*

Kuprin, you’re bios is goofy.. try to update it

grknight, if you’re ever in Ottawa I owe you a drink. I’ll see what I can do.
grknight, what does noapic do again? I forget.

lol

Why is that?

Kuprin, apic is a signaling method

why worry?

Kuprin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Programmable_Interrupt_Controller

grknight, thanks for the reminder. Appreciate it. Anyway, I’ll go hit up Windows for some bios update-age before I install Gentoo then.

Well, to keep a nice clean system, with only the needed packages and dependencies that are included in the world file

I agree with niriven

ehm why do gnupg-1.9 depend on gnupg-1.4?

Anyone knows why I’m not prompted for password on login anymore, and the login simply fails?

And the besy way to keep it as such is depclean? or, does that miss things at times

if you use it regularly it’s pretty decent

depclean was considered to do mistakes sometimes

but the first time you run it you might need to take care

depclean is much safer than it used to be. You should always use –ask or –pretend with –depclean to check the list first tho.

you said their re working on the depclean option to optimize it right ?

Miravlix, whats wrong with adding patches myself

my update alias is like emerge -uDN world && emerge –depclean && revdep-rebuild && dispatch-conf
my update alias is like emerge -uDN world && emerge –depclean && revdep-rebuild && dispatch-conf
yeah, my script is in the tree already

ahh great

dunno, it just does

Well thats a full update, i mean, if your playing around, isntalling, uninstlling, changing uses back and forth, doing this, doing that, etc, the best way to keep the system clean is?

you should also run revdep-rebuild afterwards

but the real way to optimize revdep is to use scanelf; however, we’re still a ways off on that
emerge -uDN world && emerge –depclean && revdep-rebuild
why should it change?

I actually am looking for one special tool .. let me explain u

after ivman mounts a USB hdd? will pulling the plug “safely” unmount it if it’s not being used?

Ah well, it shouldnt, but thats more of an update thena c lean eh?

it’s not safe to run depclean when portage is in an inconsistent state

have you ever seen a tool that would, list all the installed packages on the system with a certain use flag support

Wow, apparently XP can’t activate itself anymore because it’s “discontinued”. God bless Linux.

the gpg2-experimental tool may remove the dependency you are referring to, or it may not

yeah, I think portage-utils’ “q” can do that

kojiro niriven run revdep-rebuild before emerge –depclean

Ah, gotcha. so your saying its safe to say, of couse, to uDN world depclean revdep and the system will remain clean over time

no need

equery hasuse USEFLAG

great !

generally, yes

friendly12345, nope it didnt

of course, it’s *always* a good idea to eyeball what depclean plans to remove

Yeah

but I haven’t had it remove anything in a dangerous way in over 6 months

like leaving you with only gcc-4.2?

i maen, what attracted me to gentoo is the wonderful package management, just wanna make sure its as good as it hink it is

the q utilities are quicker, if you can do the same function though

heh
we’re not talking –prune here

I didn’t need –prune

in fact there are tons of utilities that can do that

I’m satisfied with the function of equery … great hint
just I never did read about it
maybe I was blind

while we’re on world update and useflags, what is the command to re-compile packages based on new use-flags with paludis?

I dunno, im a clean freak when it comes to my OS’s

or is it implicit?

#paludis

ah sry

What about major updates, will gentoo packagea management clean pretty well, say you have xorg 6.9, you ugprade to 7.2

but portage questinos don’t have to go to #portage?

actually my intense aim is to lower the number of installed packages … I want to make my gentoo fast again like in the old days … if you check Packages installed: 731 ; Packages in world: 264; Packages in system: 55 you know what I mean

two different things

I don’t mean it has to go there. Just better chance for good answer, is all.

upgrading removes the older version automatically

how to get a total amount of the CPU load (in %)?

Ok. First time here so I was unsure about the politics, and the message of the day is too long for my irc client to read

297, Packages in world: 27,Packages in system: 55, YaY!

infact now you know what I mean

when trying to login to my system, I’m not promptet for password, instead the login fails. Thus I can’t login and can’t do nothing

just on that topic, any chance the existing ebuild specification will be fully documented by the end of the year?

but well my system is from 25. Feb 2006 I can be proud

what’s there to clean? 6.9 will be unmerged automatically and 7.2 merged along with dependencies, if there’s something orphaned –depclean will take care of it (although it’s unlikely there will be in this example)

usually /topic prints it in your client

TOPIC Not enough parameters

Ah.
Thanks.

ah got it DrEeevil. /topic #gentoo did the trick.

bah my sore throat is killing me
and that on summer .

Santanabaer:

but I’m strong
i ll resist

hey guys i was woundering if someone could offer some advice when i install stuff from cpan the modules from portage takes pressidences so it does not see the upgrades or diffrent versions thay i have installed via cpan is there a way to change the presences of packages?

I’d recommend using g-cpan (in the package of the same name iirc) to create portage packages for the modules.

alot of our stuff auto installs the modules as it needs them and it grabs them from cpan

..if the modules are pre-installed though then it won’t right? can you not just pre-install them with g-cpan/emerge ?

yes
so does that mean i have to -perl use flag and then reinstall the packages?

I got xfce4, fluxbox and kde installed at same time

….? i dont think so…. i defer to AllenJB

you try several till you find one you like.

if that was the reason .. well than I would sit here … and switch between them every day … but I dont… they just lay here on my HDs until somebody asks me “hey man, what does fluxbox look like?”
if that was the reason .. well than I would sit here … and switch between them every day … but I dont… they just lay here on my HDs until somebody asks me “hey man, what does fluxbox look like?”
see my point? Im probably stupid to not delete em

isn’t that what VMs are for?

is there a program that fetches cd covers to the music automatically?
i mean standalone
not a media player plugin

maybe maybe

nah, overkill

a1ex`: i doubt it… maybe a cddb client will.. dunno.
a1ex`: i take it googling is taking too long?

could someone remind me, what is the command to list all the possible versions of a package, for example dev-db/mysql ?

what is goole
g

I prolly just love every package that I cant let go a deep love relationship to every package

never heard of it

a1ex`: that’s not funny

eix is your friend

eix (with some options), or just go to http://packages.gentoo.org

thanks

a1ex`: eix -S covers yielded 4 results

if im on the live cd and I cant get x to start, can is there a way to run the no gui install from the live cd?

hm

a1ex`: app-cdr/disc-cover

i even tried googling

sure, just follow the handbook

but i didnt look in the repos :
ty

a1ex`: dunno if that fetches images of say….Amazon
a1ex`: *off

you may want the network install of gentoo

“albumart” seems to be exactly what ive been looking for
(pacman, archlinux)

like yngwin said .. its all on the Gentoo handbook

I dont want to do everything manualy, I would really rather run the live install..is there a way to do that?

how can I get GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc on the opensource radeon driver?

i think there is a text based installer, but it’s not recommended, the installer still has bugs, so the manual install is recommended

what driver should i use for radeon ati 7500 mobility?

yeah how do I run that installer

anything that works according to what you’re prepared to live with

lol friendly12345 good explained

emerge driconf, and run it as normal user, you can enable it from there

nm I figured it out

according to the handbook the command is installer-dialog

just browse to the Desktop of the gentoo profile and run installer haha

thanks

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2007.0/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4

driver “radeon”, xf86-video-ati ebuild

grknight, I updated the bios and it still doesn’t work without noapic

Kuprin, then either a BIOS option is not sane, or it’s just poor

you know you gave me a hint to equery hasuse … before … what is in the case I didnt want it aswell as for the installed packages and the uninstalled ones ?

grknight, interesting, I’ll look into it, but DFI’s lanparty boards are generally considered to have the best bios you can get.

oops friendly12345 sorry I misspelled my idea

quse USEFLAG

Kuprin, there are some fine bios tuning options that can affect this.. so you live with noapic or you find the cause

I mean I would like it even for non installed packages
ahh you understood me ?

^

^^ thx I test it now

…what is it you’re looking for? i missed the first question

I configured driconf to handle s3tc textures, and now quake4 starts

grknight, any bios settings you know of that might cause it? Also, how much impact will noapic have on my system?

how to list all the packages (even ones not installed) which have a certain use flag

ahh cool

but the screen is flickering

Kuprin, not sure.. maybe others would know

thanks!

any idea why?

*_AxS_

i believe friendly12345 helped me already I was looking for a tool (same ability of equery hasuse) just that it lists even non installed ones

Anyone know what bios options would cause me to need noapic to boot?

I can’t help with that, sorry.

np

cool tnx

seems to be machine-specific problems, I have one that must be booted with noacpi

could be anything: that’s a common issue

noacpi or noapic?

noapic, not noacpi.

k thought so

…..well maybe not anything

dont thank me thank friendly12345

cool tnx

I know the difference just saying, some machines are temperamental and need these extra tricks

now its a lot of work … I will type in every single use flag
will take me some hours

….why?

cat /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc

because I want to 100 % optimize my system to the useflags and see which packets I really dont need

K, hold on – I just looked up apic and realized something: it’s an INTEL achitecture, isn’t it?

ahh

the AM2? no, that’s amd

and reduce the # of 731 installed packages

DrEeevil, no, APIC, not the AM2 lol

has nothing to do with it

start with the flags in your default profile, if it’s the desktop one
euse -i USE is also useful for descriptions

is the gentoo webpage setting background and foreground colors but no color for links?

hm distdir defaults to /usr/portage/distfiles right?

ahh thx Im goin to consider that

yeah, emerge –info shows the actual list of use flags you have enabled.

alright thx

yes

DrEeevil, weird, http://rafb.net/p/KBuVth55.html

I wont need cat use.desc I have 4 terminals running … 1 for equery hasuse … 1 for quse 1 for ufed/package.use 1 for unmerging and other changes

buuug

Okay, disabling ACPI in the bios for some reason lets APIC work. Weird?

you can also look at the gentoo-portage site, if you think that might be quicker (unofficial)

…if ACPI is disabled in the bios, can the linux kernel still use it?

DrEeevil, I guessed so, where the h*** does it put the files

ok

oiiiiiiiiiiii

not sure

_AxS_, I suspect not

do you have an alternate dir specified in make.conf?

hi everyone, can someone help with emerge postgre from 8.0.13 to 8.2.4? I get:
could not connect to database postgres: FATAL: database files are incompatible with server
The data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 8.2, which is not compatible with this version 8.0.13.

_AxS_, no

Your configuration file sets the server type “Apache”" when I webapp-config -I, I have emerged apache with USE=”apache2″…

very strange.

I would say yes to your question

Can /dev/urandom make use of multiple cores / smp?

DrEeevil, _AxS_ ok, I found links to the files in /var/tmp/portage/mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.5/distdir, to nonexistent files

friendly12345, so if I disable ACPI in the bios I can still make use of it normally in the kernel?

….even though I have no evidence. Depends on BIOS as well. CPU frequency scaling works I think, and isn’t that related to ACPI?

you could pop in in #gentoo-bugs and report it

friendly12345, yeah, I believe it is.

good chance that you get a direct response

DrEeevil, reporting bugs is boring…

no, it’s fun
see if you can manage to file bugs faster than devs close them …

And level-up to become an Expert Bugmaster of the 3rd Degree.

XD

you have to beat the evil jakub to get there
and only a few people know his fatal weakness

He’s way down on dungeon level 99 though.

beer?

shhhh ….

:p

kegs of beer

budweiser

Hi there, I’m trying to get tightvnc going on my Gentoo server, and it starts as it’s supposed to, but when I log in, all I see is a grey screen. I’ve added “startkde &” to ~/.vnc/xstartup – Any suggestions?

Is X running on your Gentoo server?

I’ve followed the KDE guide from the Gentoo handbook, and as far as I understand KDE is dependant on KDE, so I assume it is. Is there any way I can check?

Sounds like X is running fine, but you don’t have a window manager
The X default desktop is a grey screen with a X as cursor

Yup, that’s what I got now

What happens if you remove the ‘&’?

He simply needs to trouble shoot why kde isn’t starting

i had a question?

Removing the & don’t seem to have an effect

Can you run KDE locally on the machine?
With startx, etc?

Let me check, I’ll just pay it a visit

Don’t ask to ask, just ask.

uh huh

I was tempted to get mzbot to ‘teach’ him. But thought better of it.

aaroe do you have .xintrc in ~/ ?
aaroe if not make one and put “exec startkde” in it

hey fokls

hey lyzMrae

oops aaroe put that file in the ~/.vnc/xstartup

We need to first make sure kde works on his machine locally.

lol cruxeternus

not where I said 1st aaroe (imissed that you were doing this for vnc) ;?
ok cruxeternus the he needs to put it where I said to 1st
~/.xinitrc

KDE don’t seem to be willing to launch locally either.

the worst thing in the overall procedure to clean the system of unused applications and wrong flags is always have to wait for packages to recompile when doing emerge -auND world

I’ll post the error message, 2 secs.

Short question to the gentoo crowd here. I’d like to triple boot with linux (ubuntu) , windows xp and linux(gentoo). Would that be hard to accomplish?
Short question to the gentoo crowd here. I’d like to triple boot with linux (ubuntu) , windows xp and linux(gentoo). Would that be hard to accomplish?

alright, good idea

yep. a good reason to try and do it all in one go.

Not at all. Just a tip… it’s easiest if you install Windows first.

DrChandra actually I thought _AxS_ had forgotten if he even wanted to ask something “I had a question(?)”
lol

yeah

actually i was responding to a guy that appparently answered my question, that i didn’t know i asked.

cruxeternus, yeah……windows kills everything. Even installing windows vista (ugh….don’t try it!) killed me XP install. So I have to fxmbr first anyhow to get my xp back.

aaroe how are you trying to launch it?

Then get grub back.
And I suppose I could then just install gentoo and modify grub?

Vista–

_AxS_ ahhhh, even funnier

(running ubuntu now so my grub is already working)

That’s what I would do… manage GRUB from the Gentoo install.

alright good

anyone worked with heartbeat / lvs ?

you can’t boot xp from grub yet? ie, u need to fixmbr first?

Getting back to gentoo from ubuntu but I want a easy way trough.

Or, if you’re using Ubuntu, that’s fine too. Just want to use the same one, to avoid any weird version inconsistencies in config files or whatever.

_AxS_, yeah can’t boot yet. Vista killed XP

ahh

so vista is getting deleted……fxmbr for xp and then I’ll be up and running xp again.

Vista kills a lot of things. Kittens, especially.

So that means that I have to reinstall grub anyhow
Yeah everytime you run Vista a kitten gets killed.
So don’t do it
hehe

http://pastebin.com/m68165db7

guys, do you know where i could get a nice laptop?
not too expensive

so.. anyone looking for gentoo help?

In my ~/.xinitrc I have exec startkde

Not a Gentoo question. But try eBay

psych, if you steal one from my room. But it won’t be easy I garantuee you

Alright, give us a moment to review.

Ofcourse

Ah, you don’t even have X properly configured yet.

At least one Device section is required.
seems pretty obvious to me

Can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?

hooray!

I must say that from every linux distribution I tried Gentoo is the best.

fixed my nvidia woes

Just not nice on a slow pc

Hm, I might as well ask what it should contain. It’s empty which puzzles me since I recall editing it last night…

cruxeternus “no devices in xorg.conf” ?????

Each distribution has strenghts and weaknesses for given situations.

cruxeternus, yup
Might just keep Ubuntu on my PC as well.

didnt kno $HOME/xorg.conf took precedence over /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Keeping gentoo clean

but realized while reading the log

If you pastebin it, we can tell you.

what have you done since last night?

….? it does?

evidently

i didn’t know you could have a per-user xorg.conf

give it a try

hi

good to know actually DeBugger__

it’s me again with another problem :-[

put an empty xorg.conf in your home

Easiest is to `wgetpaste /etc/X11/xorg.conf` (emerge wgetpaste, if you haven’t already)

is there a way to tell emerge where to install a package?

my /etc/Z11xorg.conf is empty

never herd of that cruxeternus

what do you mean?

X11/xorg.conf I meant

Err, oops?

Xorg -configure , then use the generated one as a basis

Yes, that’s what I don’t understand either since I recall editing it last night…

You need to go through the Gentoo X11 configuration guide.

thats neato wgetpaste

I guess giving you the problem is better: I want to install a game, but I don’t have enough space on my linux drive left, so I wanted to install it on another drive

I’ve got my two hard disks configured for RAID using the onboard controller, and I want to be able to dual-boot the system. Linux sees the drives as two separate devices, however. Is there any way around it?

gentoo X configuration

ahhh… ..no.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

Don’t know what’ve went wrong, but I guess I better go through that guide again

wow, that was short ^^
sure ? :’(

I use “nopaste” myself

the best idea would be to move some of your current install to the other drive — integrate it.

Depends on ‘ruby’

and?

take say, /home and move it to this new drive, and then mount it in place of /home — for instance

yeah, did that exactly

Extra deps for people to emerge. wgetpaste only uses wget, which is already on Gentoo installs… so it’s quicker and more efficient

but this time I must move /usr/share/games or something I guess

wgetpaste uses which site?

whatever, thanks

mount –bind might be useful for you
(which you can do in fstab also, to make it permanent)

hm, mount –bind ?

It supports pastebin.ca, pastebin.osuosl.org, rafb.net/paste, and sh.nu/p

ahh

mounts a source directory to a target directory. (instead of a source device / source filesystem)

just found this in the docu Since Linux 2.5.1 it is possible to atomically move a mounted tree to
another place. The call is
mount –move olddir newdir
sorry

…..haven’t heard of that one.. –bind might have turned into that..?

no

err, vice-versa, that might have turned into –bind ?

try “man mount”
“–move”, “–bind” is directly above it
but it’s new
2.5.1 is not that long away
(wow, bad English )

Uh, it’s like 6 years ago

_ oh

…it doesn’t say exactly _what_ that does tho. i’d be weary of using it without more info

that’s why I asked you ^^
I’ll try #mount or something :-[
thanks so far

make a dir, move the files from the other dir, them mount –bind /path/to/newdir /path/to/olddir
and add a line in fstab so it’ll always do that
OR, if you have a spare whole partition, no need to use –bind

I’ll look for a tutorial, that way is more elegant I guess if it works

weellll cruxeternus, as long as you are looking at xorg.conf’s …I can’t get my wheel to work. do you see anything I missed in my pointer config? http://rafb.net/p/8HXWLS37.html

no, I don’t this time

Is there an app in portage that will let you edit a PDF file to add fields for users to add text, such as in a form?

could anybody help me with DDoS? ping -f nb-240.bialnet.com.pl -s 1400

#networking

Tried removing the extra space in “4 5 “? If that doesn’t help, might investigate whether the wheel is actually mapped to buttons 4 and 5.

….there are certainly ways, but i don’t know of any particular application that just does it, like adobe does

or is somebody else familiar with “mount –move” ?

And are you really using an old Logitech MouseMan PS/2 mouse? I loved those things!

why not make some dirs, fill ‘em with a few small files, and test it to see what it does?

Hey good morning! I had just exported a Word doc to PDF and it contains a scanned form and I need users to be able to add the persons name on the line. I am browsing packages.gentoo.org but I am afraid I am going to have to use Adobe Acrobat.

_ or I’ll just do it

ty cruxeternus , Yes, the big fat mouse with the thumb button

crazy as I’m _

1st gen

Xfig and flpsed might help

Just wondering. Is grub installed on the primary HD partition or on a seperate partition? I want to totally remove my windows vista C partition but don’t want to damage a boot partition of grub.

Nice. Well, that config should work. :/ Might want to play around with `xev` (`emerge xev`) to see what X thinks your wheel buttons are mapped to.

it’s a little big for my taste but I figure I will map the 6th button to a tuner or rec since this is being built as a simple dvr

Cool! I’ll give it a shot

I did try xev cruxeternus but I thought that only worked with a evdev setup?

I think it works in all cases.

and cruxeternus showed no response to the wheel, but the thumb button shows as button 2 (middle)

Oh, then that could be a problem… you have any other mice you could test with?

here’s a tutorial http://xrl.us/3nmp

And/or can you test that mouse on another system and confirm that the wheel works?

ok, cruxeternus, I will restart X here with the new config 1st, then swap around if that doesn work

Sounds good.

cya l8r

what about resizing a partition using gparted, does that work well?

hello

Wow thanks again

benny99 , works great!

sarcasm? or does it really ?

works great, really.

*closes eyes* wish me luck then

it can, yep.

I installed Ubuntu and resized my windows drivers.
uh
drives

(wow, bad englsih)

As with all fs operations, *make backups*.

cruxeternus, true

i haven’t used it much, and to be honest i do’t really trust it, but the few times i have used it, it never failed.

ok… let’s hope it works

I trust it. Works really good and not much can go wrong. Except power failure or something else.

i had my /etc destroyed and I partially restored it from /lost+found #inode files (don’t ask how). now I get my packages compiled with -X, -jpeg etc. although I restored my old make.conf. Which is the file which holds such super-flags? I use gentoo accept keywords ~x86, and maybe the system itself had recently started asking for explicit X jpeg etc? what else did my system loose (i re-emerged nearly whole world –newuse) ?

Never without risk.

(what use flags)?

Did you also correctly reset your /etc/make.profile?

is your make.profile correct?

gnah, I just create a new folder and that’s it

just as easy.

yaeh, but I must creat it in my “home” directory then

/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2007.0

is that a problem?

evening

yeah, that’s not clean :-[

u had an ati card right?

here’s the line for fstab: /tgt/dir /home/srcdir none bind 0 0

That profile doesn’t include X and other things. YOu probably want the ‘desktop’ subdirectory of that profiule.

yep
meh. so yo uhave a homedir for ‘games’

could you tell me which one, and what versions are u running, xorg, xorg-server, kernel etc

hi everyone…is it possible to force the install of an ebuild that fails a file size check? ebuild is not in standard tree and i am having trouble contacting the creator…thanks

…for which generation of hardware? you mean the all-in-wonder?

but my brand new gentoo-stable new laptop (default installation from Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD) has symlink to the same point

thanks

Learn how to used the ‘ebuild’ tool to reset the file digests.

i mean, just ur package versions.. im going crazy with my ati-problems
and driver version

I’m just saying, that profile doesn’t include the X flag by default. Your laptop might have X in your /etc/make.conf?

ah. well, i use OSS drivers, its a radeon 7500m (or something), and its just stock Xorg that i use

ah.. so no fglrx problems then

yes.. you’re right

right. no fglrx

but it’s quite quircky this way

what version of ati-drivers are you using? ~arch?

cruxeternus

and what card do u have?

did you try to tab-complete ‘thanks’?

ahh so ebuild digest /pathtoebuild ? something like that?

i’ve tried them all
9700

guys

I forget the exact syntax (been a while) ‘man ebuild’, though

where can i make it so windows will float over cube in compiz?
not just lie on it

now i just removed xorg and all confs and im gonna reinstall it and try once more.. i just lost my mouse in X

ebuild file.ebuild command

this is getting too weird

yup reading now, thanks had never used this before(never had a need)

OH right. you’re that guy. yeah i have no idea whats going on with your system.
ure sure the fan didn’t die on the vid card right?

you are too smart

yeh, it works just fine on OSS drivers

i pressed tab accidently
lol

hm.

something really strange is happening on my X anyhow

k.. gl

Not smart. Experienced.

yea funny

either way, i have to reinstall the whole system soon, so i suppose that would make things better

I finally got the idea ^^

anyhow, bbl, ill let you know how it all goes

also, if you want a really big hammer, get scribus

hum, in gnome, i’ve only got like 5 screensavers to choose from, how would i add more?

google for more and install them?

heh ok and they will the nshow up in the tool?

screensavers are a waste of electricity. turn yorumonitor off when you’renot using it. (:

i assume when you put them in the right place, and then maybe (if this is really necessary) log out and log in again, then they will show up

is there a screensaver section in the portage tree?

and i’m with SkunkyFone

ill be away for like 5minutes.

i doubt it

not hours on end

hey thanks got it worked out appreciate it

that’swhat they all say.