Hey folks Im getting something really slowing down my system to an absolute crawl I ctrlaltF2 and log in in hopes

thanks

come to your own conclusions, but I’ve come to mine.
yeah go figure, eh
i’m not completely stupid

i did reinstall to libpam and runtime/modules, so i guess i have everything set up correctly from that end

penis envy from mozilla?

bur ff is fine, now thats odd

i also dpkg –purge’d kdm and reinstalle that also, same behaviour is with xdm and gdm also

they clearly hate Debian

so basically to log gets my username correct but cannot find uid and says unknown user

what is the website not allowing you?

http://www.infosyssec.net/
^

thanks Ronin

and .com and .org

the one sarixe pasted, www.infosyssec.com

hello all… has anyone installed etch on a Dell Poweredge 1950 successfully?

where do i change the UA?
nevermind
got it

i’m using a plugin called User Agent Switcher

o
nice

half tempted to email them and ask why

just spam their logs with nasty UA messages!

6] «Zapaty» hda : dma_intr : status=0×51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error
1] «Zapaty» hda : dma_intr : error=0×40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=5938735,
any ideas ?
on fsck

I am not a webmaster guru, can you see on the source any particular restrictive code or function, that iceweasel might use or not having on its use?

-s

like say… meta http-equiv=”Content-Type” content=”text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1″

going through raid hell still.. can i turn off raid mode in bios, install on one of the four hard drives with the other three blank and down the line after i get everything humming try to fire up raid0?
… with software raid?

first line on the source is that

yes, but something in that line might restrict the usage of certain browsers?

not so far

a website that is not able to be displayed by “any” browser, is a crap one

there is no difference between Iceweasel and Firefox apart from the name and some minor default options/patches

it is basically the same minus the trademarked logos

the restriction is purely server-side and useless
there is no good reason to do it :/

eh some websites are killing my firefox upright… some codes behave like bomb traps

then those are bugs that should be fixed
but i’m more likely to blame flash there :P

and not only, the website might be ok, but articles contributed to them might contain html bombs and webmaster not even know it
Debaday website hosted such an article (was about gimp) that was nuking my browser everytime I tried to access the website

pax cannot access files 2gb’ god fucking damnit does nothing not suck?

there’s medication for that

cyanide?

ls- al

don’t be so melodramatic.

ops

i suppose i could be proped up on prozac. but i’d rather someone just make a not broken archiving tool
bi suppose i could be proped up on prozac. but i’d rather someone just make a not broken archiving tool/b

and certainly not a problem so enormous that it would require such an outburst

you know pax users?

every single one of them, intimately

* adv4cate doesn’t know anyone else who has a problem managing archives larger than 2 gb. – was that refering to pax users?

hello folks,
I have a question, we are using automount (aka autofs) and while it auto mounts or floppy disks after a hot-removal of the floppy disk we are able to see the files still in /ah (dir linked to /mnt/floppy) It seems like the files/folder names remain cached in the FS for a quick

how do i connect an ipod and see its database?

!ipod

[ipod] a purty silver and white or black box, definitely not bigger tha a bread box. Would be better if it supported some non-encumbered formats. apt-get install gtkpod, or see http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alinux1394.org+ipod for proof that it really does work under linux.

thanks

hmm, they have databases? nfi if gtkpod/amarok [ i think amarok might do ipods too ] support much more than moving music on/off em

yes, they do
but
they’re not recognizing the presence of an ipod
what’s happening is that it’s connecting
and it’s showing up in gnome as a USB storage device
and i can see all the raw files
and i can’t get amarok or gtkpod to actually connect

hi guys, i have a .deb package and i’m wondering on how to install it

dpkg -i package file name
eh…
yeah

dpkg -r package file name

hahaha

I need to lose weight, thanks dpkg

i’m trying to get gtk-gnutella installed but i’m having trouble

whoever maintains dpkg (the irc bot) is a genius.

anyone know anything about getting a barcode scanner working on debian? What languages could you use to integrate one?

ok, how about this – how come i can’t find gtk-gnutella in Synaptic?

sup all

frostwire

Hi, how can i remotely see which webserver and os a website use?

ket-warrior: most of them are keyboard wedges

man nmap helps sometimes

or they implement HID

frostwire, ok

other times the webserver might tell you

im getting the debian netinstall 4.0r1 and am just going to to do a base install…..i want to be able to configure that box remotely with a web-admin app…i think read there is ipcop or webmin that i might grab…if i grab those packages will there be anything else that i need to get to make em work

netcraft?

whats a keyboard wedge?

I thought it was somethings with curl, but i not find some info about it in the docs. I gona look with nmap

sarixe, can’t find that either

hm

sometimes the error pages list the webserver, i’ve noticed

im getting putty also for this windows box….does the netinstall base install include ssh

hi, is there a problem if I want to install windows after installing windows?

other than windows will overwrite your bootloader .. no

sorry
hi, is there a problem if I want to install windows after installing debian-linux

anyone here know anything about remote consoles ?

other than windows will overwrite your bootloader .. no

echo…

Tell me how i can get that webserver crashed :-p

also where that debian kernel image that installs debian ?
called like netboot or netinstall or something

how can i kill all application use by a user logged in my system&?

slay

anyone :P

nmap seems good for this too, nice! :-)

debian.org, its linked from the front page

I suppose you answered me? what does it mean it will overwrite my bootloader? I have partitioned the harddisk already and would like to install windows to (/dev/sda9) .. will windows kil the boot-block, or anything like that, that will nmake booting debian impossible (kill grub)? (sry might be dumb question but I am a nooby in that case)

pkill -u

and there’s a Serial Console howto somewhere
windows will overwrite your bootloader .. you’ll need a rescue disk of some sort to get back into linux to fix that

tldp.org

is there a good program for adding comments to pdfs like acrobat can?

yea i should have checked for that in the beginning i was looking for a netboot where it will install over a network not a network install CD but yea its there as well, thanks

lindenle acrobat exists for linux, but it is probably a hassle

now anyone else here ever use a remote console ?

bootiong a live-cd, chroot to my debian-installation, and reinstall grub, would this be enough? I suppose windows will NOT destroy the existing partition table, will it?

I meant full acrobat not the reader

okay, I misinterpreted your question

basically I have a pdf someone added comments to and i want to be able to see them but it only works in acrobat

roughly .. yes

How do I configure Debian 4.0 to make a nic to come up “ifconfig eth0 up” but not bind any protocol to it?

see the Serial Console HOWTO

I tried editing PDF some time ago, but was unsuccessful. I had to pirate a windows program and run it in a VM. It’s called Proprietary Document Format for a reason

yep i know…sucks that it is so widely used

agree

i’m using links2-g as web browser, and i can easily see/ask for http header info, ContentType, codepage etc is shown, as well as Server type
i’m sure lynx, w3m, wget, curl, etc, etc can also easily get the info

yay, found frostwire, just need the JRE now

I would be happier if adobe had a full acrobat for secure linux web hosting at least, they just don’t take my emails seriously

!tell Drevay about install java

anyone about remote consoles

would be better to write a free tool me feels

i already told you

you did ?
i need a ethernet/network remote console

can anyone help me?I want to compile mplayer from svn with alsa and xv supoort.I downloaded xv and alsa dev packages.I want to ask only one question.Do i have to pass a command to activate alsa and xv while compiling?

Use ./configure –help
That will list you options

i’m trying to install the JRE but it keeps saying permission denied, even after i’m already in super user mode

why would it be that in windows I don’t get “save password” option when mapping a network drive to my debian samba but I do to my old FC3 box?

thank you

No welcome

whats the recommended filesystem to the partition /home ?

ext3

no way. ext2

and why would that be?

because it has a 2

–enable-xv enable Xv video output [autodetect] i think it will be autodetected

gnome SUCKS

Ah, well xjkx, listen to him

why is it installed by default?

because they had to pick one?

i’m gonna get rid of it.

because apparently someone else thinks KDE sucks

and nothings stopping you from removing it

LoL

the screen saver doesn’t even work. i had to install xscreensaver.

xfs with redundant battery backups

works for me

anyting :P

so you want kvm over ethernet?

is anyone familiar with super_grub_disk ?

ask #elive

Is there any way to connect to a wireless network without having the normal network connection stop working?
If I just do ‘dhclient wlan0

why ask elive, when it isnt elive specific? I am trying to restore grub.

If I just do ‘dhclient wlan0′, my internet connection won’t work again until I unload the kernel module for the wireless card (iwl4965).

KVM ?
sorry
sint that a virtulization thing ?

then ask #grub

yea

kvm is a kind of monitormousekb switch

I’m having a *really* strange problem.

damn slash that never works

I’m in Firefox, and I’m looking at Digg, and the line that says “Sick of your office” shows with the c underneath the i.

FF rendered something incorrectly?!

Yeah, I’ve never seen it do that in particular.

does zip store any file metadata such as owner or creation times..etc?

And on the article page too, it does that.

are you serious?

It’s just a very odd mistake. It misaligned text horizontally by an entire character within a line.
It basically looks as if someone typed “Offi^Hce” on a terminal without backspace.

does epiphany do it ?

Lemme check.
No.

checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works… no
error: installation or configuration problem: C compile host cannot create executables.
whats the problem?
i have gcc installed

!b-e psyche_

Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential.

Should I try Seamonkey (the Mozilla suite)?

How can I tell dhclient to append nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf instead of replacing the old ones?

dunno .. i use epiphany a lot more than either iceape or iceweasel

Hmm, Mozilla does it too.

!

?

Is there any good desktop calendaring program for Debian other than Evolution?

%

you using epiphany, mildly surprised me, that’s all ;p

anyone here use lilo ?

@

well .. you mean besides using opera ?

!anyone use

!tell linuxtk10 about poll

No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it.

yeh

i use them both

ttuttle, maybe install a groupware suite on your pc. or use googlemail/calender/web2.0 stuff

ok

i use iceweasel primarily since epiphany isn’t configurable enough for my taste
plus since i develop, firebug and web developer are really nice

how can i mmake lilo boot a certain kernel just once then on the next boot a different kernel ?

even using about:config or gconf-editor :/

grub-set-default

eh, sometimes a list of choices is nice
he said lilo

man lilo
and i *know* it’s in there

that’s hat i meant, even using those sometimes youdon’t get access

like spaghetti sauce

what

i know but the stuff i configure most of the time is
i only need to use about:config when doing really weird things

SerajewelKS:
yeh
but i’m weird

“libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64″ ?

hey to each his own

What is it that determines which network interface to use when there are several of them available?

i wrote my own web browser in C# for wikipedia…

SerajewelKS:

you’re a dwarf .. not an elf

whoah, neat

using gecko of course, but still… iceweasel wasn’t good enough

:-)

http://sirajul.tx0.org/wikibench-rc.png

Could anyone recommend an outsource dns company, that i could use, so quickly update low ttl records, to failover between my two servers?

larsl; default route, afaik

that’s what i thought about epiphany .. but there are a large nubmer of add-ons that make it almost as usable as opera

the only thing i like about epiphany is the startup time

Where is that set?

some daemons can be configured to listen only on certain interfaces

but now that i’m on amd64 there isn’t much difference

a combination of /etc/network and information retrieved from dhcp (if applicable)

wow, that’s fucking cool

when i get around to making a release it will be GPL
and thanks
i like it a lot for RC patrol

now i see why you wanted custom. you get to have those entry options

So if I have eth1 up and running, and then does ‘dhclient wlan0′ and gets an IP from a wireless access point, and internet stops working, is it reasonable to assume that dhclient changes the default route to use wlan0 and the access point doesn’t provide internet access?

also it’s hard to maintain a connection to IRC with javascript

from what i know about it, i think it would

but the program and gecko integrate very well. the JS and C# layers can talk to each other. i won’t tell you how that happens since it’s a kludge, but it requires no unmanaged libraries. you just need gtk# and gecko#.

does opera have anything like about:config?
neat

what’s the difference between packet* and packet{p} when removing those?

that’s a theory that should be checked by manually inspecting route

prefs.js ? maybe? dunno .. i don’t dig around in there .. the preferences dialog has what i need

just copied over partitions to a new drive, need to install grub on the new drive without booting to the old one – any ideas?

i just don’t see building such a tightly-integrated application in javascript. and did i mention that it’s made up of addins that can depend on each other and consume the functionality of other addins?

livecd exes

i wish there were a way to clear out extraneous pixmap data from the x server host ….

knoppix? not my debian install CD?

one addin provides a stream of Change objects that the recent changes pad consumes, for example

I’m a complete networking idiot… where do I check the default route?

!rescue

methinks rescue is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ (“Can I use d-i as a rescue system?”) See also rescue mode.

thanks

route -n

look in both -F and -C. `man route`

it’s real cool . sounds like you’re proud of your “baby”

i am very proud of it

whatever you want that has the grub tools

Thanks, I’ll experiment with that.

is there any way for add a new disk (file image) to an existing qemu-image, as it was another disk ?

after upgrading from sarge to etch, when trying to install libapache2-svn using aptitude, I get: “No candidate version found for libapache2-svn”
what does that mean ?

something about ‘www.gnu.org’ is trashing Sid’s iceweasel

it’s there .. show us your soruces

send iceweasel to http://www.gnu.org

i don’t get it, and what am i looking for?
oh, sid. etch here. nvm

works just fine in links2

what happens to iceweasle at that address?

Sid’s iceweasel gives up the ghost

(whereas any MS kb artcle freezes it up like a deer in the lights)

do you think its intentional?
like, a licensing spat that they made it this way??
really, MS KBs don’t load either? whats the deal with iceweasle??

you scumbag of a gtar. –exclude-caches … then archives the entire dir with CACHEDIR.TAG in it. this trying to exclude with tar just isn’t going well for me

ah but this is Sid, at least its not the default iceweasle after etch install

Anybody who knows why I can get sound off on channel but not the rest on my Haupauge TV Tuner card using the saa7134 and saa7134-alsa driver ?

i’m referring to links2

how do i install svn? i can not seem to find just the svn command somwhere i tried to install svn-workbench and svn-load but no luck.

install subversion

http://pastebin.ca/673876

in future try something like apt-file search bin/svn to help find the pkg name

i’ve used rapidsvn (gtk)

amazing how simple it was… thanks

!tell rootmos -about search

apt-get install subversion

anyone here knoe anything about network remote consoles ?

hehe

what is the command to know how many memoery does our server has left

ask specific questions, and you might get answers

free -m, or run top

free -m fastputty
or ps aux

woops. wrong person

tldp.org remote consoles (as you’ve already been told, a few times now)

we were running sarge with backports.org enabled, and there was a libapache2-svn package at backports.org for sarge. It probably explains the problem.

me ?

yes, you

lol
f* you i didnt see nothing
and i ve been searhcing google for a while

ok, it’s my fault

it is

i mean space in the harddrive

seen the new gyrocopters?

what is f*?

lol

df

almost

so you can’t install libapache2-svn at all ?

aeronautix.de

no, fails with “No candidate version found for libapache2-svn”

apt-cache policy libapache2-svn
paste that
!paste

Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.

yea i saw those …….also whats on tldp.org ? ilooks like a bunch of how to’s hmm

hello, does anyone else have problems with driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run?

http://rafb.net/p/dDnrxu74.html

!tldp

[tldp] The Linux Documentation Project at http://www.tldp.org

er yep ;-)

you’re pinning

aah, right.
/etc/apt/preferences contains stuff about it.

hmmm

i need a pizza

looks like ethercons is really good for freebsd

thanks a lot

eh?

spamming?

yep

!azeem++

might need to take that out

I did, and it now works.

ok

im going crazy i cant fins a ethernet / remote network console for anything but freebsd n crap man i know these things exist
maybe i m searching bad ?

which init will disabled the GUI on bootup? 5 ?

JunK-Y: none

!tell JunK-Y about nodm

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/text/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO

http://okvm.sourceforge.net/kvmoverip.html
is htis it as well ?

that will delete this, no?

that looks pretty outdated hmm
i guess guess the term for a thing is called a kvm
i thought kvm was a virtulization software

kvm is a Kernel Virtual Machine nowadays – Yesteryear; it meant Keyboard +Video +Mouse
kvm is a Kernel Virtual Machine nowadays – Yesteryear; it meant Keyboard +Video +Mouse

uhuh. tar –exclude-caches-all will not work in combination with -g

next time google define:KVM

ah

you and wikipedia have a date

OK, fixed my module loading problem, but I think I have a screwed up /etc/modprobe.d When I start X, my system freezes now.

yea im looking for the software way you know ? where the kernel handles the remote console n stuff …..without having to install pci cards
its a kernel driver

I know the radeonfb driver was loading before, but I got that to stop, and now I am able to get the radeon driver with drm to load

hmm

if i can guess at what you mentioned earlier, maybe debootstrap is for you http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/debootstrap – and do /msg dpkg debootstrap
huh?

how would debootstrap have anything to do with a remote ehternet console

After I start X, my box freezes and I don’t see any output in /var/log/

if you don’t know, maybe it’s not for you ;-)

http://kerneltrap.org/node/1034
im looking for the linux equiv of that
i knwo they exist and alot of them

that’s a linux site

Hello I installed the server apache and all the other things. Where would I acess the ftp ? Or is there a debian server guide ?

read it

looks dated and old and decrepid, no thanks

what ?
its from 03 but all im saying is i need that for linux ….btw thats a freebsd article

apache doesn’t do ftp, it does http

go look at vsftpd

Yes. I isntalled the file server aswell
I set it up for just the LAN

dammit i cant find this and i know this damn thing exist damn

how to i get the total space and used space of my hardrive

df -h

th
thanks

rsync and dovecot DSAs

OK, fixed it!!!
Was this the AGPFASTWRITE option set to 2 on my xorg.conf
cool

With apache how do I control it.

how can view data about an ssl certificate file?

the openssl command has some option to print the data fields. I don’t recall them

hello, does anyone else have problems with driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run?

thanks, I’ll rtfm

quit “bye”

hi
whenever i try to install kdevelop i am getting unmet dependencies. How do i resolve that?

use aptitude

How are you trying to install kdevelop? Which version of Debian are you using?

hey you guys…. I’ve got a powerful tomcat server hosting running SuSE and VMware. Can I install a 64bit of debian into a VM ?

is the server 64bit?

yes, but not the current OS

then you need to use a 32bit vm

You can certainly run Debian in VMWare, as to whether you can run a 64-bit distro on a 32-bit host… ask VMWare.

ahh you cant install a 64bit OS into a VM under a 32bit os?

i am using apt. apt-get install kdevelop.

hi

You might be able to do it with a 64-bit kernel on your 32-bit SuSE install

also, whats the difference between the IA64 version and the AMD64 version?

ia64 and amd64 are different instruction sets. IA64 is for Itaniums.

the point is i want to test this out and if i like it, swap it into the main partition

PerfDave is right, that’s doable, in fact, a 32bit userspace is a good option sometimes

i can really install a 64bit kernel into a 32bit os?

Yes
Well, you can with Debian

SWEET
this is suse

What version of Debian are you using?

the os isn’t 32bit if the kernel is 64

im looking to ditch it but i need to move one step at a time
well all the apps on it are

PerfDave:sarge

You can have a 64-bit kernel with a 32-bit userspace

that’s userspace, not the os

Hello

ahh userspace

What is the “OS”? The kernel, userspace or both?

ok, so I have a dual xeon 3.4ghz with 6gb of ram

good

2 processors, 2 cores on each

If you want to play with Debian, why not just play with the 32-bit version

I am trying to find a way how to exclude some directires when running the find command. I know I should use -prune. It works for one dir, but how to add more dirs to the list?

I think it’s Pentium-D base
PerfDave, I’ve played with Debian in the past and I like it.
I want to more-like see if all our stuff works with it

Please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://channels.debian.net/paste/

so with my processor, I use the AMD64 or the IA64?

former

ahh
so basically IA64 kernel is for the two Itanium machines out there

If your Xeon is 64-bit capable (some aren’t, can never remember which) then you want amd64

thanks people

enjoy

yup

fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est cid cx16 xtpr
hmm is amd64 supposed to be listed there?

looks amd64-ish to me

amd64 isn’t a cpuflag. There is a cpuflag or combination thereof which indicates amd64 but again I can never remember

ahh lolz
can I tell anywhere in /proc/cpuinfo ?

Hmm, I’m *sure* the name amd64 came before x86-64

hah AMD always has it to Intel with that one!
yuck i wish there was some easy way to tell if my cpu is 64

http://www.intel.com/products/processor
a href=”http://www.intel.com/products/processor”http://www.intel.com/products/processor/a

anyone can help me with my question on find?

nope. because you didn’t ask it

are you using multiple -prunes or just one with all the directories listed after it?

lol
never ask to ask. just ask.

i keep getting this message when I run alsaconf; amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory

he already did ask

I am trying to find a way how to exclude some directories when running the find command. I know I should use -prune. It works for one dir, but how to add more dirs to the list?
there you go.

-prune -prune -prune, try using one for each directory
gets tedious but should work

dfsg

well, dfsg is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

xeons are impossible to identify… damn

google for a cpuflags reference

ah

card is a cmpci

!chroot

well, chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot

is anyone else running unstable getting a lot of segfaults? gsb is howine the sigsegvs in firefox and evolution are happening inside libxml2.

can you run alsamixer?

no

s/howine/showing/

your user is in the audio group?

I use chroot all the time, but sometimes you need to make some mount –bind ’s first, for /proc /sys, and /dev, depending on what you are doing

just curious if it’s me or if there is really a problem

bts ?

i get this: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
i am in the audio group

cat /proc/asound/cards

sure, one sec

(pastebin)

thx, trying

hello folks, i am having trouble in creating raid devices. i had a disk with 9 partitions. i repartitioned the disk to have 10 parititions. when i run mdadm -C /dev/md10 /dev/sda10 /dev/sdb10 -l1 -n2 i get the errormdadm: error opening /dev/md10: No such file or directory. i would appreciate some help on this

#backup

http://pastebin.ca/673936

tried x86info or cpuid yet?

is this on linux?

yes

Im am trying to set up a chroot but am getting this error. $chroot /chroot
cannot run command `/bin/bash’: No such file or directory

DCC CHAT C\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

building x86info……

git-clone git://git.choralone.org/git/x86info; cd x86info; make; sudo modprobe cpuid; sudo modprobe msr; sudo ./x86info
…. ah, you got the general idea already

its a pain…. but whatever

Consider connecting to Freenode with a non-6667 port.

!ops Shinkai exploiting dcc exploit

Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: eulex complains about: Shinkai exploiting dcc exploit

ket-warrior:if i am not wrong you, you should verify if /chroot/bin/bash exists

Otherwise, you are vulnerable to D C C exploiting.

ok I still dont know what im looking for

8001 IIRC

Port 8001 works.
Heh.

ricky, thx

i dont think x86info gave me anything more than /proc/cpuinfo…

nvm, he left…

yeah, thanks for the notice, but I don’t think there’s too much point adding a ban now

yeah

probably better to tell staff .. though the guy is likely on dhcp

64-bit extensions technology available = true
LAHF/SAHF supported in 64-bit mode = false
how does it look?

the first line looks kinda promising, no?
I’d try booting the amd64 netinst :-)

wouldn’t it be easier to ask #hardware ?

i dont have physical access to the server room

physical access is for wimps.

have you tried as root? what does modinfo show for your card’s module?

in fact, swapping in a new distro is going to be a pain, but i’ve done it before
last time it was because i didnt have a keyboard, and the only thing that would boot was knoppix
so from there, i built a distro and swapped it in.

http://pastebin.ca/673950

man I gotta quote you on that… “physical access is for wimps”, lol!

I’ll try to get one on firefox too

I’ve got a package that refuses to deinstall because of a bad preremove script, what can I do?

i meant .. have you checked the BTS for similar issues ?

doh haha

fix it or have it exit early

I’m in the processm yes

nice trace thoguh

I’m hoping it’s really a libxml issue, this is a super-new Thinkpad laptop, and I’m worried that there is something sketchy about linux based hosting services on it

what abrotman means is, edit the copy in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.prerm to make it succeed, one way or another, then try again

but it’s good that both firefox and evolution are faulting in the same library at leas

are you running sid on it?

i was waiting for him to ask how!

heh

lenny/sid yes

peterS, got it.

http://pastebin.com/d79a4c601, unfortunately none of them works.

i was giong to give him the Q&D way to make it exit cleanly .. but he ran away!

removing the -e?

exit 0; ?

ok thanks guys, i’ve got what to play with now

or just blow away the script entirely

cheater!

yes, yes I am

what could go wrong …

is that allowed? to span columns in a single form inside a table?
it would seem to violate the concept of nesting

PerfDave:where can i paste the sources.list file?

IIRC iti s

!paste

Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.

in that case

i seriously doubt it would pass the w3c validation ..

/tr….

i could do that too!

Sorry my english but what pakage do i need to send mail like this one http://pastebin.com/m78d94ab1

still sounds dirty

but yeah, the SGML schema for html hosting 4.0 or whatever probably does not allow that case

that’s php

PerfDave:http://rafb.net/p/RWWBsT65.html

well… the 64 bit wouldnt boot in the VM

Yes but i can’t send mail from my debian server

sending is easy, its recv thats the issue

And you’re trying to install kdevelop? Have you tried running “apt-get update”?

what do i need to install for to send mail

postfix
and you need to edit main.cf. if you have port 25 blocked, you need to set up a relay server

(once you’ve fixed your kdevelop problem, you definitely want to enable security upgrades and do an “aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade”

yes

do you have any idea how I should proceed?

OK, what’s the output of “aptitude install kdevelop”

by me it’s in /etc/postfix/main.cf

Yes port 25 is blocked

PerfDave:infact any package i try to install i get unmet dependencies problem.

and I added this:

It might be that your Debian mirror is dodgy.

myhostname = optonline.net

I get a list of packages saying for eg packagex 1.2 = package2.1 and cannot be installed.

relayhost = [mail.optonline.net]
becuase I use optimum online for my outgoing mail, they are my service provider.

Please paste the output of the commands “aptitude update” and “aptitude install kdevelop”.

I used netselect-apt to select the mirrors.

of course this assumes that you can send mail outgoing, anonymously. otherwise you will need a username/password

k give me a min.

I am now at General type of configuratin
What should i choice

To send mail from your Debian system directly, you need an MTA such as exim or nullmailer
If you’re only interested in sending mail to a remote SMTP server, nullmailer might be the easiest option.

sorry, no idea, I’ve just seen people use multiple -prunes

hm shold i not install postfix ?

You could use postfix, you should have Exinm installed by default though

okay. thanks anyway.

I have exim installed but cant send mail only smtp mail

What do you mean “cant send mail only smtp mail”?

http://pastebin.ca/673981

But if i install postfix the say that whant to remove exim

I have tried as root, same result

Yes, you can only have one MTA installed at a time.
It might help if you told us in more detail what you’re trying to do.

I have this script to send mail http://pastebin.com/m78d94ab1 but it dont send mail.. it dont use smtp

PerfDave:http://rafb.net/p/EG4Djc73.html
that is when i do a install for kdevelop

Salut ŕ tous
hi all

you there?

Hmm, what does “apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2a” say?

some X libs are currently messed in testing
exim is capable of sending mail to a smart host or as an internet site

what about permissions in /dev/snd?

I am not able to install xchat also.. so i have to boot to debian and then get the file.
In ksirc.. when i am in the channel it says cannot send msg to the channel.

you’re on lenny ?

I am on windows now.

that’s useful

why does kisrc say “cannot send msg to channel”?

Can you send mail from the command-line using the “mail” command?

How

Have you changed your sources.list recently?
mail -s Test my@email.address “This is a test”
Then read /var/log/exim4/mainlog

Yes i used netselect-apt to do it.

Okej

also i did a apt-get update after that

they are set to root, I’m guessing that could be the problem?

OK, have you always run Sarge?

I didn’t get you.

well, try root:audio, see if that helps?

What did your sources.list say before you changed it?

I have no idea when it comes to auido and linux tbh, mine has always just worked

I dont understand

well http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/TroubleShooting says try chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd
and that that is potentially insecure

PerfDave http://pastebin.com/mc512c62

!locale

i heard locale is set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers)

OK, exim is running but is not configured properly.
dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config

It seems, the locale information for debian is outdated

hm listing smtp on 127.0.0.1 i shouldbe smtp.bredband.net

PerfDave:http://rafb.net/p/trQnnq45.html

I mean the bot. :-)

hrm

!rfp virtualbox

/boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-5-686 has been altered. Cannot update.
it worked fine on 4 other Etch boxes except this one

OK, you’ve been installing unstable packages from random dedicated ip hosting addresses, it’s no wonder your system is screwed up.

initramfs-tools 0.85h update

well I tried it and it still didnt work

K so how do i fix it?

could be the mirror at his colo?

doh
/ is full

this is bad

bad logrotate.. bad

What is that deb http://81.91.108.244/debian/ line about?

I’ll find out

244.108.91.81.in-addr.arpa name = lizard-eth1.linux-srv.anlx.net.

Is there any graphical “file manager” that can list about 1000 directories and files in 0.5 seconds?
Gnome takes here about 5 seconds

xterm ls ?

_graphical_

Hence the X in xterm

krusader? thunar? rox?

xterm *is* graphical

xfe ?

TBH I suspect it has more to do with the filesystem / disk set up than the file managing sotware.

wait .. why does it matter ?

I don’t like waiting.
and I do visit my home dir rather often.

then don’t .. go get a beer out of the fridge

then use a terminal

sounds like you need a better heirarchy

Then use CLI. And be a bit more organized

are the various preview/file type options switched off?

http://beewee.be.funpic.de/initrd.img.html
should I try to mount it?

I am not sure.

or what can I do now?

no
is that a major factor?

i have all the features on .. it’s slow .. what should i do?!

IF you don’t know where you’ve been installing packages from, and you’re having trouble with dependencis, the only surefire way to fix it is to reinstall

indeed.

If you have 1000+ files in $HOME, you need some subdirectories

I could organize it a bit better, since I have the source trees for lots of projects in ~.

I don’t use Gnome. However, Konqueror (the KDE counterpart) read all the file contents to determine file type and draw nice icons… your file manager might be doing something similar

yes, it does, I could switch it off, but I did that before IIRC, and it didn’t matter a lot.

too many kernels

I am quite sure that the line came up today… mostly from netselect i guess..

I suspect this is an upstream issue. irc.gnome.org, #gnome … they should be caring about usability :-)

Why doesn’t it just fetch the dependencies?

it’s usable .. just not fast

i suggest a subdir ~/src or ~/proj or something similar as a start then. and maybe one subdir per project beneath that one

Because you’ve screwed it up

yes, I already had one, I just didn’t migrate everything yet.

but clearly if you have 1000 directories in $HOME .. you need to clean up

Once you start mixing binary packages from stable and unstable all bets are off and the only way to fix it is to reinstall.

or go all unstable!

abrotman:how do i go all unstable?

I only have about 140 dirs, the rest are files

you don’t want to on a server
so put them somewhere .. don’t be a slob

yes, I will

Its a desktop.

hell .. even ~/stuff/ is better than $HOME

If you have to ask how to go unstable, you shouldn’t.

!sid upgrade

Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you’re neither. Use stable or testing instead.
uSid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you’re neither. Use stable or testing instead./u

wow. never saw that kind of home directory before. how do you ever find something?

Just realise that you screwed your system up and reinstall

Ok, disabling “preview” (and putting me back in the Windows 95 age) brings it back to under one second.
tab completion in shell most of the time

k..

I only use the graphical manager for some directories

now ask the developers about “caching the preview”

!lame

or rarewares. Upstream sources, with build instructions for Debian at http://www.mp3dev.org/ or http://lame.sourceforge.net/

Why isn’t it in non-free?

PerfDave:anyways thanks for the help

nah, I won’t bother the developers, since they aren’t interested in making it work better

the mp3 algorithmn was developed at one of the fraunhofer institutes in germany. and they did not gpl it

I filed a bug for mounting a floppy disk with vfat file system. The Gnome people said it was a kernel problem. The kernel people pointed back to the Gnome people.

is there a way to verify the key slot number of a luks key?

Like I say, it’s more likely to do with your disk setup and filesystem than your file manager software.

I use Ext3

um, you’re mixing patents and licenses

any command to see the number of files on one disk?

it’s patented? even worse…

surely you could just see if it works outside of gnome?

find /

All I know is that my webserver is not production ready because of this BS
it’s the damned gif files all over again. =P

on second thought. I would patent it too. i would be rich, rich is say… (sorry could not resist)

You want to do mp3 encoding on a production webserver?

what works?

just install i from debian-multimedia

I don’t know much about IP, but there’s nothing wrong aobut trying to protect your inventions.

mounting a vfat floppy

if works when you give the right flag to mount

so its not a kernel problem?

but you cannot say to the kernel: “mount this floppy”
this might be because this in impossible in general

babilen, you want me to put nonstandard packages on this thing? PerfDave, ok, actually, only the output will be on the server. But I need that output.

but I don’t know that

i agree completely

you’ve lost me..

does a Core2Duo processor run standard x86 Debian? or is it 64bit?

You don’t need lame to serve MP3s on a webserver.

anyone who can recomend a nice lightweight window handler

works

64-bit processors can run 32-bit distributions.

than install lame from the upstream sources, convert your files elsewhere and put them on the webserver

mountpoint

At least, amd64 processors can run i386 distributions.

PerfDave please don’t waste precious bandwidth on that sort of information.

sure

do you understand?

thanks PerfDave

but i guess installing from debian-mutlimedia is the fastest solution

Sorry, you appear to be confused about what lame is.

yes, how is that a gnome issue at all?

PerfDave, I’m not thanks.

Gnome claims to be a desktop environment

Well, if you’re going to get arsey, I won’t bother trying to help you.

right?

I click on an icon with a vfat floppy and it doesn’t work. Who’s fault is it then?

Perf, debian wasted $300 today.
Anyway, I got to go.

the Gnome guys should take this bug to the kernel people if they think they cannot solve it otherwise.

wtf

but in this case the kernel person said that the Gnome people should solve it, but they won’t due to lack of interest
end of story

Well, Gnome is free software. If you care that much, you can fix it yourself or hire someone to do it.

sounds easy to work around
also, floppies suck

!sucks

Blow me! oh my bad. Were you considering contributing a patch, or filing a wishlist bug for that? http://kevininscoe.com/pub/whaaambulance.jpg

Heh, “easy to work around”. It just means it’s not “polished”.
I.e. _not_ user-friendly, where user-friendly is designed relative to the target user of Gnome which is some computer-illiterate person.

dpkg i almost wet self

er defined

huh?

funny pic

they shouldn’t close a bug report based on “lack of interest”

hey, I can’t get 3d support for my Ati Radeon Mobility 7500 I tried radeon, ati etc… I was here lastr time and stil I couldn’t get 3d support now I was wondering if the official ati drivers would work there is no one for my card but there is a driver for 9600 will that work maybe?

this creates a “lack of interest” to file more bugs.

This is true. Then again, I’m not a Gnome user.

perhaps a lack of interest to use their software is more appropriate.

!start a wm war

wmaker blows!

I suppose. I do switch some times, but there are some weak points in the minimal window managers and KDE crashed a bit too much.

xfce’s file manager only renders previews when the icons are visible, for example. However, the initial rendering of a directory with about 1000 files is slow too.

someone?

Hello
recently new installation of xubuntu
trying to compile hosting a program
ran configure and got
checking for C compiler default output file name… configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables

the free radeon driver ought to work, I think

#debian

This is #debian, not #ubuntu

fasta, pardon?

I tried too much

Yes, I know, but it’s the same thing

fglrx does not support those card any more

No, it’s not

no, it isn’t.

!ubuntu

yes, ubuntu is based on debian. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net – See also based on debian caveats.

and I get threads about people who tried also much

I’ve installed xserver-xorg, and whenever I try to startxfce4, It will tell me ‘No Valid FontPath could be found’, Where I did wrong please?

I NEVER tought about using fglrx

Or, which packages should I install?

well I will try radeon driver

oh, what did you mean by “official ati driver” then?

from the website…

which site?

hello, does anyone else have problems with driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run?

you should use the Debian way. Next question

You shouldn’t use the nvidia-provided installer on Debian systems

heh
this is becoming boring

i need it for compiz-fusion :/
oh well

You can install the nVidia binary driver, just don’t use the installer from nvidia.com

Compiz can only be used to slow down your computer.

!tell pablo__ -about nvidia

And crash X while doing so.

hi guys, is there a root only equivalent to “locate” which searches the /home/ directory too?

Ok, I know, xfonts-base

You might want to look at slocate

ok, thanks

ok thanks guys

!tell xinming about install x

I uploaded something on paster, but I’m not sure where to from there

Hmm, that page http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers doesn’t mention that the nvidia.com installer will overwrite apt-owned files which will be overwritten in turn.

ah, that’s awsome PerfDave
thanks

I can’t seem to get samba configured. When I ‘dpkg –configure samba,” it shows “symbol lookup error: /usr/sbin/smbd: undefined symbol: good_sends” and fails

What a strange error! Which version of Debian are you running?

lenny

Did you check the BTS?

BTS?

!btssmite psychonate

bug tracker?
will do

Is there a way to rename a factoid?

infobot.org

already someone know a good commandline monitoring tool comparing to snoopylogger ?

don’t see anything similar in the bug tracker so far

thanks, but a) those are only “most of the commands” and b) dpkg is a blootbot

hm, dpkg is based on infobot ;-)

grepping over the code for blootbot shows a “rename” command though :-)

sure, xk changed that, but those are the only documentation about…

is foo

should be enough

that’s not renaming, that’s changing the value of
however, it doesn’t matter, there’s a lot of references to the current factiod so I decided not to mess with it at this time
dpkg, what are you?

I am a blootbot. For more info see blootbot

+

how can I setup debian to act as a headless router/switch?
I have a machine with 5 NICs in it

wich xorg is there in etch?
wich version I mean

!info xorg etch

..1.0-19 (etch), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 44

see above.

tnx

apt-cache policy xorg

that’s assuming he _has_ etch in his sources.list

I found something that 3d is supported by radeon in from “he newes prerelease of X.org 6.8.1 supports the RV200 including 2D and 3D accel. “

or have a look at http://packages.debian.org, or try one of the other possibilities if you do not have etch in your sources list.

it should just work, unless you messed with the system by installing ati’s binary stuff
at least, it “just worked” for my 9200

i just like to help people by showing them how to solve similar problems on their own the next time.

anyone here use Lilo
?

makes sense

!anyone

polls

is their anyway to make lilo only boot a image/kernl once then have it default to another one ?

!anyone use lilo

No, no one uses lilo, not even the people who use it.

there is a great problem with that card I google much and always found the same “not 3d support” and that stuff

I believe so

yea hmm looking for the option

why not use grub if ya wanna do that?

“no support” doesn’t help. Which debian release are you using? Version of xorg? Are you using a custom kernel (does it have support for radeon kernel module and agpgart)? Are libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri installed? pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

how can I setup debian to act as a headless router/switch?
I have a machine with 5 NICs in it
also, is it safe to use said machine as a web server aswell?

can grub do that ?

what causes my windows box to not have a “remember password” when mapping a network drive to a samba share on my debian box? I can do it to my old FC3 box no problems.

yes, lilo can do that. Have you read the manual page?

yes

ok sec I will search everything

/sbin/lilo -R linux-new (Tell LILO to treat linux-new as default boot kernel just for one time only)
google found it for me with: lilo “one time”

yeah, want aware lilo had that option too
wasnt

did you login with a password on the windows box? is it autologin?

it’s a different user/pass than what is on my windows box

you can login to the share, right? windows uses protected storage to cache your passwords. if you don’t login to windows (eg, passwordless, or autologin has no password), there’s no cached passwords.

ok, gotcha… good to know, but no, I manually log into all my boxes

hi

try the net command from the command line. there’s a way to make it persistant

router yes, switch not so much. I mean, you could make it a switch, but it would suck at it and be a royal PITA to set up.

I’ll give it a go… I know when I connect to my fedora box it gives me the “remember…” option… but when I do the same to debian it doesn’t

Can someone direct me to some instructions on how to install the Nvidia binary drivers under the 2.6.21 kernel? Apparently it changed from 2.6.18.

so debian vs fedora is the only difference from that box?

running on debian Lenny, btw.

yeah, I compared the smb.conf’s side by side and can’t see anything glaring at me

!tell hans0lo -about nvidia

and fc3 has smbd version 3.x (it is older but, minor revision)

what of the versions of samba?

!nvidia-installer really sucks

We don’t tell you not to use drivers from nvidia.com for fun. We have valid reasons for it, based on extensive experience. What it boils down to is this: your system will “work fine” for a while, then break HORRIBLY, if you don’t install the driver the Debian way. Don’t expect sympathy. Do it RIGHT the first time – /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner

Version 3.0.10-1.fc3 and debian is Version 3.0.24

that advice does not work on lenny

but I can still plug 5 machines in it?

hm, just use stable then ;-)

and theyll all be firewalled and have access to the internet?

I’m leaving the office and I’ll be home in about 10 mins, I’ll pick up this screen when I get there, so feel free to throw any suggestions in the mean time

um, why is it a royal pita to set up a bridge with lots of eth* devices?
my DSL router is running linux 2.4.17 and has 4 eth devices (ok, it has some custom drivers ;-) … that’s its default firmware

but then everyother time after that it would do the normal krnel right ?

man pages are your friend.

I’m going to be removing 43 lines of bans. You are strongly advised to /ignore #debian MODES

yes i am instaling lilo

unbanning begins; /ignore #debian MODES; (or your clients equivalent is recommended)

meh

!beer dondelelcaro

wow

you can /unignore #debian MODES; if you want

what a hack

!ignore pickcoder

that’s always how i’ve thought of ignores on irc, sticking your fingers in your ears

does anyone know if its possible to extract the md5sum hash out of rsync if you are on the receving end of an ssh based rsync? thanks.

hello is there any packet to crypt my hdd

Klaps, http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/

something like http://paste.debian.net/35641, basically. Then use the bridge as the internal LAN device and set it up normally.

sup all

is there a way to get gdm/gnome to mess with grub so that i can ask it to reboot into a certain entry, a la kde?

i got a simple question…i created a file called “firewall” and i want to be executed upon bootup (even before the login screen for console). how do i do this

I do this for my virtual machines, which are bridged to the phys. iface to make it look like they’re directly connected to the lan

!rc.local

rc.local is, like, /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. if you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don’t touch /etc/init.d/rc.lcoal). rc.local is considered a hack, consider writing a real init script (ask me about init.d). as of 2.86.ds1-1, initscript has an rc.local file for compatibility with inferior operating s

can i get it with apt-get install dm-crypt?

!tell Klaps about repeat

Klaps, i wont try it without a proper howto for debian in your native language

right now it is chmod 770. do i need to change its permissions so it can be executed before the login screen

Did you read what dpkg told you?

of course

if it’s an iptables setup script, call it from /etc/network/interfaces

but it dont say what permissions it has to have

the interfaces file will be cleaner

right now it is set for root only to execute

man interfaces and look at the post-up directive
that’s where i do my iptables stuff anyway

i changed interfaces to chmod 770 to…and i cant remember what it originally was

scripts are usually root anyways…

oh so thats all good then….can i have the interfaces file execute the “firewall” script

yes, just do what i told you to

oh ok i got ya
thanks

“man interfaces” — run it from a post-up section and it will be run after the interface is brought up

both of yas
so i tack it on to the bottom of interface file
ok

on
no*

ohhh

you tack it under your eth0 definition, or whatever interface you want it to be tied to

well i cant man anything cause one of the nic cards i added is giving me some kind of error and it keeps coming up like ever 2 seconds
so anything i type on that box gets screwy

so “ifconfig that-nic down”

its not really an error…not sure what i should call it
k 1 sec

setterm -msglevel 1

sweet

or that

ok, so my user crontab seems to not get executed any more. any idea why? (sid)

im gonna have to fix that problem cause the other 4 nics dont do that msg…just that one

who needs four nics =/

i got 5 but that one gives me that error

yea, that’s what vlan switches are for

i making a router

this isn’t like a mission-critical router is it?

brb i have to reboot that box and i will loose connection on this box for a min
1 min brb

my uni requires a program to gain network access… basically it scans your computer for “illegal p2p software” and if you’re clean it lets your MAC address through

any ideas for my samba issue?

check /etc/default/ – but otherwise, no.

the solution? a 2-nic linux router running a pristine XP VM that is firewalled from the rest of my private LAN.

Have you tried tcpdumping the software?

what should I be looking for in defaults? not much there in samba

And does it auth the MAC address of the host it’s running on, or the MAC address of the machine that connects to the auth sever?

no idea. my samba box isn’t accessible from my location.

Hey folks, I’m getting something really slowing down my system to an absolute crawl. I ctrl+alt+F2 and log in, in hopes of killing some processes but error messages just keep scrolling and I’m unable to enter any commands. Is there anything I can do other than just hitting the power button?

understood, I’ll play around with it some more
thanks

the latter, which means the VM stuff works
this is my third year, i’ve done this all before
also the connection is some UDP thing that looks pretty encrypted
no i take that back, it was https. i installed a driver on windows that intercepts the traffic before wininet gets it (so it’s readable) and it looked like if i spent a lot of time i could reverse engineer it.

Hmmmmmm, I guess I should just pull the plug?? That can’t be good but no other ideas?

then i found out that if i identified as linux with the browser it would just let me on, so a few minutes and one perl cron job later, and i was set

What do the error messages say?

Error -110 writing Tx descriptor to BAP
I now know how to avoid getting this error. I’m just concerned about how I can issue an `ifconfig eth1 down` or safetly shut down when my console is completely flooded.

Looks like a network condition, you could try unplugging the cable

Basically once the error pops up, it seems the only solution is to hit the power button
wireless

so the cable is broken then …

it happens when my computer has the wireless up in certain network environments

firmware based driver ?

Really all I care about know is how I can shutdown
not sure
s/know/now

which chipset
oh
you can’t switch to a terminal ?

Pressing the power button on my case shuts my computer down cleanly.

hi
does anyone have a idea whethertheres a debian iwlwifi (source) package anywhere?

packages.debian.org probably knows

when I ctrl+alt+F2, I can log in but after logging in, the terminal just gets flooded with the error message and I can’t enter any commands

i couldn’t find one when i looked

ctrl-l make them go away ?

inofficial or development i mean

have you tried typing “poweroff” and hitting enter
?

aha, didn’t know about ctrl-l, what is that?

okay, so i still have to write the module-assi scripts myself

it’s not -too- hard to compile yourself, but you’ll need to get the kernel source package (not just the headers) and pass a couple of options to the makefile

Mmm, binary firmwarelicious.

well, thats not the problem. i want a “clean” install

usually the crap on the screen won’t actually affect what you type (just what you read)

so i’ll have to build me packages ;p

amusingly, the firmware is in debian (although the one in debian is too old)

(or m-a stuff)

it’s the GPL’d module that isn’t.

jeah, thats strange … why is there the firmware?

hmmmmm okkay lemme run up and try that stuff
thanks folks

i’m going to guess it’s because the ipw3945 driver is in Debian, and whoever didn’t realize iwlwifi’s needed for a 4965AGN

HA .. my entire labor day is saying 80F .. beat that!

I thought Intel stuff was all supposed to be GPLd these days.

it is except for the binary firmware (which is common in wireless drivers anyway)

Meh, I’ll stick to my Realtek chipsets

100% GPL except for the firmware – yet, the firmware is in Debian, the GPL’d module isn’t
ew

!ipw3945

add contrib and non-free entries in your sources.list and aptitude update; aptitude install ipw3945-modules-2.6-686 firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d; If you are not using the 686 kernel, replace the 686 with the kernel variant you are using (486)

that doesn’t help for a 4965AGN

presumably because the ‘contrib’ module depends on the non-free firmware
i’m aware of that

the 4965AGN firmware is in debian unstable already

boo!

so i am doubting firmware licensing is the issue

it’s still in non-free

!info firmware-iwlwifi sid

hm, kay

firmware-iwlwifi: (Binary firmware for Intel Wireless), section non-free/misc, is optional. Version: 0.7 (sid), Packaged size: 282 kB, Installed size: 728 kB

i need iwlwifi for a 3945

!find iwlwifi sid

firmware-iwlwifi: (Binary firmware for Intel Wireless), section non-free/misc, is optional. Version: 0.7 (sid), Packaged size: 282 kB, Installed size: 728 kB

so, there’s other non-free stuff in it :/

anyone a idea what i need to do to modify a sourcetree so it works with module-assi?

maybe it works with another driver ?

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