too bad there’s no exchange rate for the mexican peso

Wips, joseAway http://zoffix.com/new/del/css.tar
peace suckers.

they went to ‘new pesos’ after the other got unfortunately inflated

what is that, porn?

yeh.. You’re gonna have to learn me how to do the positioning again now Zoffix.. Because it’s gone.. you removed it

oh.. I was just kidding though
burn

:’( sad one actually..

Now you got ~2 months worth of logs, to learn everything you need .. soooo.. see you next year!

I can send you 43.5mb of #planeshift logs to dumb you back down.

joseAway, is that the reason why you keep so many logs?

hello every i have sort of a general question, what do you guys normally start out with with your wrapper?
i was thinking maybe like 900px ?

Wrapper?

(not fluid btw)

logs is really a barbaric term… I prefer “intelligence equalization facilitators”

My Wrapper? …I usually dont call it that, but you know…. well I start with some lotion..

Oh, right the “div id=”wrapper”" syndrome

well, at what size do you design your site at ?

]design resolution @ invinceable

Most users have 1024×768 and higher, but a large minority have 800×600. These numbers do not include those who browse using web appliances. It is important to note that (a) the display resolution says little about the size of the browser window, and (b) users can normally resize the browser window. Consequently no particular browser window size should be assumed.

I start at 800*600 tbh

invinceable, think for yourself.. don’t be a sheep.

Sheep ftw. Four legs good, two legs bad.

FIN
ACK

90%!

FOO

well i was wondering what the good starting point, or what the general consensus was, if asking questions like that is a sheep, then why have this channel, or any book? you could just figure everything out for yourself

of what?

just a though
t

Of the browser window
invinceable – Fluid width.

?

you and your tricks

Don’t start at any resolution. design it to fit in anything

]? @ Wips

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_mark

http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393445

invinceable, this channel is for Cascading Style Sheets, not design questions. And books, channels, tutorials are there for your to LEARN and apply gained knowledge.

op me, I’ll make sure you go to sleep

joseAway, orly?

yarly

joseAway, I can tell you right away… you loose
s/o(?=o)//;

Loose? You insult my integrity!

I am unbannable.

Psh, sure

Yup.

APs?

]abbr ap
Access Point

I thought you were a woman :O

I am both!
I am neither!

Though, I only loved you for your money

I a nowhere!

So it’s ok

I am all around!
You can’t find me!
You can’t escape me!

Eep

I think we broke it

M00!

I think I’m going to have to go back to writing my own cms.
This time in Python! XP
Really though

Python whee

Yay!

cms?

hard to find anti-python zealots
except for ruby people

zealots?
ruby?

and we all know ruby is a crap language

crap?

I don’t. I know I love python though

love?

…. damn

..?

And hell, I’ve only written the one script

one?

This channel is a lot less incendiary without zoffix

less?

zoffix pwns

wow.. foreign word.. Icendiary? wtf does that mean

]define incendiary % Zoffix

gief

GO TO SLEP PLZ KTHX

]define incendiary:1 % Zoffix

Zoffix , turn off the beep and go to bed

I don’t have a beep.

then go to bed

Unless you want to have a python/ruby flame war
It will be fun

then turn on your beep and go to bed

I’ll make cupcakesw

COME ON GUYS, what the fuck is up with the ignoring..
It’s not like I’m writing white text here

Despite the fact that this is uberly hilarious…. last time I ate was 12 hours ago, and I completely forgot about that I am starving.

have some iced tea

the internets are like a sitcom where everyone’s funny!

I mean, it’s not like I’m writing #ffffff text here

omg hex codes how could you

btw, is there any right and wrong on #FFFFFF and #ffffff?

use white, that’s what it’s there for

heh

that’s how you argue with zealotry

use hex

you go with a completely different question and attack that

Because some lame frameworks that you will some day decide to use will bluntly cry for hex only colors.
I can oppose everything ~
That’s my skill

You’re drooling
And you’re an anarchist. A standards-advocating anarchist, but an anarchist just the same.

I’m drooling.. but it’s mostly because I’m a retard.. you know, it’s sad..

A moment of silence for Wips’ evolutionary inferiority, everyone.

droller?
]define droller

droller [gcide:2] Droll \Droll\ (dr[=o]l), a. [Compar. {Droller}; superl. {Drollest}.] [F. dr[^o]le; cf. G. & D. drollig, LG. drullig, D. drol a thick and short person, a droll, Sw. troll a magical appearance, demon, trolla to use magic arts, enchant, Dan. trold elf, imp, Icel. tr["o]ll giant, magician, evil spirit, monster. If this is the origin, cf. {Trull}.] Queer, and fitted to provoke la…

s/(o)(.)./$1 x 2 . $2/e;

cheers
ok, I’m gonna convert my index.php to html now, wish me luck
may the force be with me..

convert mp3 2 html host how??
questions seen on yahoo answers

heh

]:first-child

Wips, I knew right from your positioning question that you are a PHP user
You’re all alike.
]]]:first-child

:first-child http://www.webdevout.net/browser-support-css#support-css2pseudoclasses-firstchild (IE 6: N) (IE 7: I)(FF 1.5: I)(FF 2: I)(Opera 8.5: I)(Opera 9: I)(Konqueror 3.5: I)(Safari 2: I)

]]]:first-child % Wolfman2000

alright, three of them

huh? Explanation?

Wips, exactly

….you know, this is irratating

Infinite charisma, amazing cooking skills, and a voice with all the purity of a unicorn and none of the mythological horseshit.

I can safely report that Firefox 2.0.0.6 supports :last-child better than Opera at this point.

Firefox any day

irritating* gash…

I don’t have Opera 9.5 yet, so I’m not going to judge yet.

Wolfman2000, lol, I can safely report that “better” says nothing.

Also, how can we officially add Safari and Konqueror to the webdevout tables?

Wolfman2000, as well as it’s CSS3 and technically we are not supposed to use it ATM.

I can safely report that I don’t give a shit
um
brb, wc

btw, what’s the deal with css2 and css3?

]]]:last-child

:last-child http://www.webdevout.net/browser-support-css#support-css3pseudoclasses-lastchild (IE 6: N) (IE 7: N) (FF 1.5: I)(FF 2: I)(Opera 8.5: N) (Opera 9: N) (Konqueror 3.5: ?) (Safari 2: I)

Wolfman2000, learn the specs to the dot and do extensive testing then send your results to Nanobot ?

The tests performed on css3.info: how many of them also test CSS2?

I plan to eventually make a public bug tracking/reporting system on a new infrastructure. I probably won’t do any major updates on the Safari/Konqueror information until then

well… after all you are a nanobot

So at this point, nothing I can do.

heh
Wolfman2000, at this point you can start learning specs to the dot.

Cool, our office is moving to the new building by the end of this week

Wolfman2000, so you would know how exactly things should work.

Good place to learn specs to the dot then?

Wolfman2000, is that a question, a statement or what?

I’ll rephrase

Nanobot, where do you work now? Did you decline that MS job?

Where is a good place to go to learn the CSS 1/2 specs to the dot?

Since you’re refering to me as a PHP user, I bet you also consider php services as a retarded language?
…

Yeah, I declined the MS job. I’m still working at the Tech Center on the Butte College campus. We’re moving to one of the newer buildings where we’ll have about five times the space we currently have.

declined an MS job?

I’ll be sharing an office, but at least now I’ll have my own permanent desk

why?

It’s MS

They wanted to basically silence my public presence.

So?

MS is retarded..

It’s extreme $

Tainted money

After working at MS, you can pretty much get a job doing anything you like.

scoping, sub refs and closures then maybe I’ll consider it to be a language.
uscoping, sub refs and closures then maybe I’ll consider it to be a language./u

php is a retarded language
you can’t fool me

I told them that I’ll gladly consider working with them if they can promise me that I can continue my Web Devout work uninterrupted. They kept trying to dodge that issue

and, what is there to replace php?

If you’re good enough to be asked to work for them, I’m sure they’d accomodate

lots

I use PHP almost exclusively

Nanobot–

you poor soul ;_;

….lots

I have friends who are massive open source advocates but took a job for MS and love it. The money and working conditions is incredible

If it matters, I have the custom webkit installed from www.webkit.org. Probably need to update it, but oh well. I will ask again: where is a good place to learn the proper CSS specs so I can do testing on Safari?

w3.org

e.g joseAway?

]css @ Wolfman2000

CSS Specs: http://w3.org/Style/CSS/
a href=”http://w3.org/Style/CSS/”http://w3.org/Style/CSS//a

….should have guessed.

Scoping sub refs and closures? .. gash..

There was really just one condition that I wanted to have met, and that was the ability to work on Web Devout uncensored as before. They kept using wording like, “We won’t ask you to take it down, but once you’re working with us we don’t want you to publicly criticize MS projects”

$_=”64 97V1N15N12N08N05N16H7H7H4D9O9E9O5D2O3O5V7E5D3D9A9D6 97N15N15V1D9D9A9D6 97N15N15H6V1N11N14N00H0H1H6D4D2D4N02N11N14V4 97A9D6 97N15N15V1N26N15H7A6A0H7A6A1H7A9D6 97N15N15V1N26N15H7H0A5A7H6H2H1A5A7H7D6N23H9N25A6A3H7A9D6 97N15N15″; s#H# 4#g;s#A# 5#g;s#V# 6#g;s#E# 7#g;s#D# 3#g; s#O# 8#g; s#N# 1#g;s#G# 4#;s#S# 6#;$_=join”",map chr,split/ /;$_=eval;$_=join”",map chr,split/ /;”Wips, $_”

Wips, YOU SUCK!

python, of course
lame

not

….you just HAD to run an obfuscator, didn’t you Zoffix?

]php @ Wips

PHP is good because: http://juerd.nl/site.plp/perl_php PHP sucks because: http://tnx.nl/php http://czth.net/pH/PHPSucks

Wolfman2000, that was coded manually FYI

I don’t know why Zoffix is so much against PHP

yeah sure

….by me

It’s a language. It works well enough.
It’s very widely deployed and has lots of tools for it

I am not against it.
It’s awesome!

And it’s easy to learn, easy to use, fairly flexible..

If it wasn’t for PHP, Perl would be horrid!!

easy to use to make unsecure things

http://juerd.nl/site.plp/perl_php
Juerd++

What language do you use for your programming?

Perl

Wips, Perl

That’s true in any language
PHP also makes it easy to secure things

you used perl on the pages you showed me earlier?

It’s a matter of your own personal knowledge

Wips, yes

Same with code cleanliness

hmm, What’s the difference between perl and php?

lots

Asking your employees not to publicly criticize their product isn’t a big ask.. but I can understand how it would be a difficult request to meet if you’re the type of person who writes articles or blogs on different apps

Wips, everything?

so there’s no chance I’d actually manage to migrate from php to perl.. without letting my heart out

well, I don’t like php mainly because it’s only good for web

]work zoffic
gash

They had three program managers from the IE development team constantly in touch with me (including one who sat in my channel and chatted for over a week).

]work zoffix
damn
help?

Available Plugins: oeis imdb shorten help rt echo eval convert mangle restart quit rbeval deparse part reverse join reload_plugins heap_test bibleit

PHP was made primarily for the web. Perl was meant to be used in almost everything.

But they just wouldn’t commit to meeting that condition, so I didn’t come to the in-person interview

wow, I’d love to know what they offered

but I’m only using it for web, so basically.. I dont need perl?

i suffered big time when i switched from ruby on my last project back to php web hosting for my latest one

oh right

Wips, I don’t care about PHP. I know couple things about Perl: if I need something, 99% chances there is a module for it. If I need to know how to do FOO, it’s either in perldoc or perldoc -q. There crap load of ways to do the same thing and I can pick whichever fits my mindset best.

I was going to be a program manager in charge of web standards testing

well, I doubt you were using ruby for your last project
More likely ruby on rails

no it was ruby

ah, how unorthodox :O

johnjay, eruby

more lies

Sounds like an easy 120K

I didn’t care about the money
I care about the flexibility to do the things I want to do

joseAway, heh, try Perl and see if you are worthy

My current job is very flexible and offers quite a bit of room for growth

I speak of the “eof”

Well, I’m impressed you didn’t give in to temptation…

You’ve left several times already

so, is there an example on the difference between perl and PHP? I mean.. You have the if’s right?

joseAway, I always do

like I say, lies

Speaking of work, I have to get to bed so I can get up early

Seeya mate

I have a growing to-do list

Wips, join ##php and #perl and ask why PHP or Perl is better than the other.

but I dont want to..
I like #Css :’(

I wouldn’t recommend PHP for doing anything other than a little test or something, very hard to organize your code and that makes it unmanagable

Wips, you can actually just join #perl, since the community is quite open minded and will tell you all the reasons why you would want to choose PHP over Perl.

….
shouldn’t you be in bed? =p

YES

go!

of course I’d recommend Python over perl.. hehe

i second that :p

yeah i hear that alot

he’s gone, he said so a couple hours ago

I’ll guess that Zoffix loves it because he’s always used it since the olden days
and that’s fine, but if you’re picking up a new language, I’d really suggest python

python whee

Why clamothe?

Python’s been around a long time now hasn’t it

clamothe, I actually coded in Python before I switched to Perl…. what a difference.

I remember funkybob suggesting it to me years ago

Yeah there is a large difference

(i ignore him at the time)

I coded in perl before python

clamothe,

I find python’s syntax to fit me very well

clamothe, I like Perl better. Python is a nice language, but it’s too damn hard to fine web server that supports it, and I really hate the whole TABed code blocks idea.

Oh yeah?

clamothe, it’s just a preference
Python is really easy to learn.

http://bash.org/?9347

I’ve found that with most projects, you want to use fastcgi (or my personal hosting favorite, scgi) over cgi (I’m sure you know the difference).. and with any of the three, implementing perl code is just as easy as python

joseAway, heh
perlbot, write-only

write-only is a misattribution given to Perl by non-Perl programmers. Perl programmers can read Perl code. Non-Perl-programmers may or may not be able to read Perl code, just as plumbers may or may not be able to repair your automobile.

Really any popular language is easily implemented on a web server nowadays.. of course you’re pretty much screwed if you’re on shared hosting and want to use anything other than PHP
uReally any popular language is easily implemented on a web server nowadays.. of course you’re pretty much screwed if you’re on shared hosting and want to use anything other than PHP/u
Nice

no Python though.

most support perl, too ;]

I use a VPS for all my stuff

Same here
@clamothe, not zoffix
plenty of python for me

clamothe, and I also helped the admins with CSS. So if I need any extra modules I get them installed in under 5 minutes

Nice

PHP has been described as taking the worst bits of C++ and the worst bits of perl, and combining them

haha

regular expressions scare the shit out of me
That’s why I am wary of perl. Perl spawned PCRE.

well I don’t really know what’s behind PHP.. I just know that it is the hardest to debug, hardest to ‘get right / foolproof’ and doesn’t have a concept of namespaces

a language that started as a collection of perl scripts is worth some skepticism

They scared me too.. until I worked on a data mining project.. I spent a night really learning them, and now they’re my best friend
I have a, *gasp*, css question!
Or rather, a “what is IE’s problem and how do I fix it” question
so
http://js.ely.clamothe.com/
I use two images for the rounded corners. They’re both 950px wide, as is the container

CSS question?

however in IE6 , the container must be larger than 950px as the rounded corner on the right side is not on the edge

Go home, design hippy

so
Yes, I put zoom:1; for the ocntainer, no fix

@

(js.ely.clamot…) HTML: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/3ba7hm ) | CSS: Failed (2 errors, see http://tinyurl.com/2osa6x ) [31 warnings] | DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Strict + url | (MIME: text/html; charset=utf-8, text/html; charset=utf-8)

As there is no firebug for IE, I don’t know if the container is larger, or there’s padding / margin being weird, or what
Yes, there are two CSS errors. They have to do with IE hacks

the lack of firebug for IE makes me cry
that’s.. odd

Yes.. and by the way, to make ya’ll happy, the CSS is now valid

Try adding a * { margin: 0; padding: 0; } ?

already there
I think
guess not, I’ll add

mmm then firebug’s search has failed me

lol

regular expressions scare the shit out of me ’; s/^(.*?).+?s(\S+)\s([^\s]+)\s\w+\s\w+\s(\S+).*/$2 $3 $4 $1/;”$_”

regular expressions shit joseAway

I hate you

Regexen++

Go to sleep, regex devil

No luck, that didn’t fix it

;_;

Yep I’m screwed
I could always make four corner images
but then IE is still using a non-standard width
which scares me

seriously..

haha Zoffix
gold

Where?

look
9) ***Zoffix finally
that’s on this channel
Zoffix: Wips, Writing an email to my mom.. sent her money and
That’s on #Perl

hello, how to remove the border of an image that is a link?
hello, how to remove the border of an image that is a link? in IE

style=”border: 0px;”

incubus-, a img { border: 0;}

HAHA!

ok

Wips, and why the fuck do you care about when I leave and what I do?
Give me some space FFS.

….wow
just having some fun here
au?

GO TO BED, PERL HIPPY

perlbot, perl

It’s Perl (for the language) or perl (for the interpreter) but NEVER ‘PERL’!

lol

tnx

burn joseAway

PERL for the hippy
Go to sleep

….still burn

If you’re not careful, I’ll start calling it pearl. Then where will you be, eh?

what’s he supposed to be careful about?

perlbot, be joseAway

How I can make teh web wit pearl?!?!

About going to sleep.
More lies

THIS ONE IS TRUE!

I don’t believe it

too bad

You have no willpower

Quit smoking, call 3211-4422-Smoke
goodnight Zoffix
I want iced tea
It’s not fucking called Iced tea
it’s ice tea
it’s all over the bottles
ICE TEA

made from real ice, I suppose?

yes
….

Put ice in water, boil, serve

yep

Also known as water
With some state-change

sometimes refered to as water, yes..
….brb
so joseAway, if someone comes here and urgently needs to see me.. just tell them I’m getting something to drink
ok?

no

back
m00

howdy gang. Have two CSS XHTML jobs in Seattle if anyone is looking
shoot me a PM

Bash is a source of great wisdom.
http://bash.org/?784313

I think I’m going to sleep now..

Should you not link to images located on any remote server other than special image hosting sites?

Right, unless you’ve been given permission/asked/etc

And how likely is that?

likely?

I mean for user-contributed content.

hey guys
anyone here?
can someone off some help getting something centered for me?
0px auto; but it doesnt move

hello

its at http://www.beerponglaw.com/choose/select/1

can you make… layers in a webpage with css?

im trying to get that top logo centered, right now im using margin-left: 30% or something like that
can you check it out for me?

what should I check ?

http://www.beerponglaw.com/choose/select/1
the ‘logo’ div is the one of interest

you want it centered ?

yes

2s…

if i set the margins to be say 10px then make a colored box, then used absolute positioning and used 10 for top and left then made another box, would they be one ontop of another?

http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/center2.html

thanks
that seems hardcoded

or just set margin: 50px auto;

the 50px auto isnt doing anything
thats my problem
any ideas?

could you test with #logo { margin: 50px auto; } ?
else, you can try #logo { position: absolute; top: 50px; left: 50%; width: 576px; margin: 0 0 0 -288px;}

I have postet my list how can i make the pionts of the list side by side (ul
li[[Handbücher:denibaEh_Kassa|Handbuch (Kassa)]]/li
li[[Handbücher:denibaEh_Zentrale|Handbuch (Zentrale)]]/li
/ul
http://paste.css-standards.org/21580

i got it with width:100%;
text-align:center;
does anyone know how to make a div stay on the bottom of the browser window?

http://reisio.com/examples/headerfooter/

ty DiDjCodt

“Example.com is a super cool store where you can buy black sunglasses and other hip gear!” — Should “Example.com” have some special semantic tags around it in this context?

display: inline;
on the li’s, I think

didnt quite work…

blblblblblblb /li

%support inline
]]support inline

[Google] http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2003-11/msg00148.html (More results: http://tinyurl.com/2z79v3 )

try it and see
I’m sleepy
I may not be right

it doesn’t work ?

it is right but the pionts of the elements disapear

nope, reload http://www.beerponglaw.com/choose/select/1

what should be the footer ?

the progress div
hand, ball and cup

could you remove the float: left on them ?

they all just stack on the left then

#hand { position: absolute; left: 5%; }
..ball same thing…

ok let me update it
i updated the page

hi all – is there a prob with ie 6 and using a id and a class to style a div – i have one div id which is then customised with various classes but ie only seems to accept the first one in the list

you still here?

yup, but i’m doing 42 things at the same time

can i ask for your help on something more simple and ill figure out the footer by myself

you missed a height: 100% in the body
body { margin: 0;padding: 0; height: 100%;}

i have that in there
html, body {…}
its in the css file on the server but im not seeing it locally

can you add it ?

its just not being rendered, i dont get it
is it caching the css somewhere?

i have cache disabled

hmm
im very confused

link href=”/stylesheets/design.css?1186043821″ media=”screen” rel=”Stylesheet” type=”text/css” /

its a ruby on rails site

perhaps ruby is caching it… are you on developpement environement ?

yes i am
and killing the server each update
its stripping out those heights
now im linking to it directly
and it still isnt updating..
but im looking at the file on the server
and other changes show up
somewhere along the line is stripping them out
this is annoying
well i guess ill deal with that later, do you know how i can get the ‘description’ div to stay on the right instead of wrapping down to the left

absolute; right: 0px;

it still goes below the div on its left

margin-left: auto;

it showed up but didnt change anything
weird

is a non-serif font sans serif?

yes

sans is french for ‘without’

it is
did you fixed your server so you are sending the right files ?

i wish i knew what was happening
im just doing other css changes now
that are all working
but those height lines just wont render
i know i sound like a dumbass but i really dont understand whats happening

http://labs.decoodt.eu/css/layout.html
why IE doesn’t show the #page div with the correct width and height ?

was that to me?

not specially
to anyone who know how to do it

is there any way to set the padding back to default or to define something as not for ie inside a css file without making a separate css file and a conditional

no

hrm

what do you mean by “back to default”?

well the default value for padding is no value i believe

there is no “no value”

well the thing is, if you don’t enter a value for padding what is entered?

the browser default, natch

natch?

naturally

ah
well the thing is

that’s why you should start every style sheet with * { margin: 0; padding: 0; }

hmm never heard of that

O_o
you must be new around here

is there a portable way to have a list menu which expands to the width of the screen?

i come here on and off and help out

help out and you don’t know about reset? wow (no offense)

Available Plugins: oeis imdb shorten help rt echo eval convert mangle restart quit rbeval deparse part reverse join reload_plugins heap_test bibleit

wtf ZofBot

*shrug* i started doing webdev before css, way in the long ago days and have recently been getting back into it
i can help with a lot of simple stuff

huh?
that’s cool

the thing is i’m using an interesting faux colum setup and i have strange padding and margin values
ie they break
i can make it….work

http://blog.thembid.com/index.php/2007/07/19/understanding-the-c-in-css/ — quick and informative read

but the sides dont show
http://students.washington.edu/halew/iowar/index.php

looks okay to me (apart from the tiny font, which I’ve complained about already
can’t test it in IE right now

heh its around 6px on my screen and thats a 1680 screen, however most people it wont be quite that small
and i have very good vision *shrug*
yeah ie i have it mostly working now
this isn’t a necessity to fix
but i’d like to

why not use condcoms

condcoms?
wierd never heard of embedded styles
nvvm i have
just looked odd

]condcoms
]cc @ NaNO2x

IE Conditional Comments: http://haslayout.net/condcom.shtml

How can I make sure text goes to the next line because I have overflow: hidden; set and for some reason the text isn’t going to the next line.

i got the error:
start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/xdm: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)

right, i have ie conditionals
i need to reset the padding to default is the point

Could not start the Display Manager [ ok ]

overflow hidden doesn’t mean wrapping

i just can’t seem to find any code to erase the padding that i have

Ace_NoOne how can i enable wrapping?

should be on by default; which element?

div
it’s inside div tags
just plain text

whoops wrong channel

it should wrap then!?

it doesn’t lol

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well i messed it up pretty bad now, and there are tons of higher CSS on top of it
because I am integrating into the facebook canvas

you mean like going up one level for the padding? sort of like .foo.padding = .bar.padding? not possible

yeah i realize, so i’m trying to hack around that

Ace_NoOne is it possible that they are turning off wrapping?

because i rather like the faux colums i’m using

white-space: normal;

no messy images

aye

text cuts right through the div
it’s scary

what happens with overflow: auto

well i can override partly
but if the overflow it turned off it’s just across the whole screen
it’s as if my divs don’t matter

not sure what you mean – especially not without an example to look at
so clean up your code and come back – sorry, but that’s all I can say

yeah i can’t provide an example too well

pretty much what i want is to make the cascade run up

I’ve wanted that before – not possible, unfortunately

css4 perhaps
:p

All I can say is that I am using blocks im not sure if that matters
block

in 2083 there won’t be any Web browsers, NaNO2x

heh

for display

I really can’t tell

thats because we will all be dead from ww3

block; what does this do?

make it a block element, which DIV already is

does anyone have ie6 that they can test a site for me on
not ies4linux but actual ie6

why do they use it inside divs then on facebook.com when i check it with firebug

how the hell would I know – bad coding maybe

block; is what .clearfix has inside it

they call it “clearfix” not sure why

clearfix is probably for clearing floats
which is bad coding
q.e.d.

lol
i use it though, never does anything

sorry, but I can’t help with this

why do only bankers have ie6?

senseplz

Ace_NoOne i think i figured out how they were doing it, they were using something called a min height hack
left; and width: 1px;
with some 1px width img inside it

Hello, could me please anyone tell why is there http://erikgyepes.com/css/ in IE6 the space in the white column? Everywhere else it’s okay…I hate IE Thanks if someone helps me.

or not…

^ solved, I’ve changed the line-height to 10px :p

Hi

hi

hI

Does anyone know why the left and right margins aren’t the same on my page on gecko? http://www.hcoop.net/~kuribas/documentation.html
http://www.hcoop.net/~kuribas/gcboard.css
I am wondering where the extra space comes from.

You should have a FULL strict doctype…
]doctype

http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html (HTML 4.01 Strict is recommended)

And I don’t know why you’re pos:abs; the #page
a[name]:hover {} ?

trovster, yes, I don’t want named anchors to be decorated.

You shouldn’t be using named anchors… and it won’t work in IE6.

Unfortunately the named anchors are generated by another program.

OK, nevermind.

is it possible for a centered page no to “re-center” itself when pages with or without a scrollbar appears?
my pages jumps back and forth if you browse quickly

a) locally b) in certain browsers c) YOU use that browser d) user knows it.

I made your changes, but the problem stays.

Sorry, you’ve made it clear you’re not really interested in my advice.

??? I did what you told me.

k
So, did I say … Use XHTML and the XML prolog?

hm
No, I got the prolog from the page you linked.
But it doesn’t make a difference.
What is wrong with the XHTML declaration? It should be valid XHTML?
Anyway, thanks for helping.

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Ok, I see.