you mean other than running windows in a mission critical production environment in the first place

the ip address is a perfectly valid server name.

and the souce of the req is the box not the server

obviously
run nethogs or something, or repeat netstat a few times

turn off stuff

tunr everything off!

yeah, useful for a prod box

well, you’re the one asking why your box is doing that
if you don’t like the answers – don’t ask

actually I’m trying to get a clue; turning everything off won’t give aclue
so actually, I don’t like that answer; but I’ll keep asking sensible questions

use netstat, and look in your /tmp dir to see if you’ve been hax0red

like could a rewrite rule cause that?

no ?

you might be right , cause i saw this movie with a lady and she said she had a snake in her toilet and no one believed her and she really had a snake in her toilet.

didn’t think it could

*bad request* – period

turning off the process causing the problem will help you find it by elimination

I realize what the response says

invalid HTTP, something apache is incapable of requesting

archivist

archivist is talking

shhh

heh who fed the bot that one

forget archivist

I forgot archivist

i believe you

off with his head!

wow, shut down the server host might be useful to eliminating the process; not something most would find useful

that’s not what he said – are you reduced to flummery already ?

Yeah the bot got on my nerves too.

yeah, shutting off apache would be as useful

I see

sawdog, not the server but other procs eg some proc checking the server

which version is it, best get latest

I thought it might be monitoring; but not from the local boz
box

A box is something the class dunce sits in, and look it is sawdog today

stfu fajita

lol

I actually initially asked a sensible question, gave the condition and if it could be a rewrite

Class dunce’s have hats on their not in box’s

do you use any firewalls or weird routing tables?

not on that box, just heartbeat and loads of rewrites; thus my first question if a rewrite could cause it somehow
and it appears to have started when I added a bunch of new rewrites…

all evidence point at rewrites
how many rewites were there?
cause it only takes one

heartbeat

heartbeat is a common failover solution for linux or http://www.nolongervalid.com/heartbeat/

wow

Now how can I resist an offer like that? Access granted. What were you thnking of doing ?

and you never thought about that before ?

heartbeat doesn’t heartbeat services; just the server – old version
yeah, I thought about it – and it hasn’t changed in 2 or 3 years

im on windows and cannot read the manual

and the problems started with a config update
fajita; ya think I don’t know what heartbeat is?

why is the manual in a weird html format?

heh
so you’re saying my problem is in the manual?

it has weird content

yeah?

no
im not saying that your prois in the manual
problem

problem is that it’s configured to deny for that url

where?

a sane rewriterule does not re-inject a request into apache, it is hard to see how it could have caused Bad HTTP Requests

in a configuration file, or in the binary exectable?

I’m almost afraid to ask, but are you talking to yourself ?

Apaptr; I figured as much; but I also can’t crank up the rewrite logging to check in detail what it’s doing there….so figured I’d ask here

why not ?
rewriteloglevel

rewriteloglevel is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriteloglevel. RewriteLogLevel 9 is log everything…

production box; lots and lots of paper work
global financial institution, nothing comes easy

ah

fajita; really – I’m not an idiot

so copy its entire config off the prod machine and reproduce the error
fajita is a bot, treat her kindly

oh
haha

and *I* sent you that URL
if you have no testing backup of major production boxen like that, I don’t see how you can ever hope to do safe troubleshooting

I’m fairly adept at running and debugging; this one’s got me baffled – figured it was worth talking to the ‘experts’
Oh, I do have other duplicate environments
none of which exhibit this condition

one part of debugging is being able to debug – if I advise you to increase rewrite logging and you say you can’t, then…
uone part of debugging is being able to debug – if I advise you to increase rewrite logging and you say you can’t, then…/u

totally understand adaptr; the daily frustrations

you must debug it only in the areas of access and denial

nicely on topic, kwiter

I’m painfully aware

almost had me thinking you were sane there for a minute

salt on open wounds

what?

are you fishing for an ignore ?

kwiter?

sorry, retry
listen, there are a million boxes out there and the only way to know what is happening on another box is to now the software
that is running on that box

heh, who are you talking to?

I am wondering the same, really
he’s off on his own tangent

everybody, that sentence has a meaning for everyone here

sure, sure… guides kwiter gently to a padded room

i am not a triangle

thanks adaptr

wow

[wallclock] there was unix before gnome?

listen, so does anybody use windows?

no.

only if you pay me

but its better, and easier and faster

not faster

then the brick holding open my office door

Let’s not do the “my OS is better than your OS” thing this morning.
I’ve only had the one cup of coffee, but I can still kick people off. ;-)

but we want too

lol

meoooww

please?

don’t boot me Bacchus

Oh, all right.

so F4 closes all the windows
no C-q no A-x
no reply

indeed

oops

oops is right…

how did i get myself into this?

head-firts, methinks
*first

yes
thanks for the help
im going now

ohhhh

hm?

YES!

is there any good reasons why one should not run apache on windows in a mission critical production environment

you mean other than running windows in a mission critical production environment in the first place ?

yeah

not to my knowledge, no

i wnt to convince my boss to run apache+mod_svn on a linux box instead of on windows

install it, let him see that it works

it feels like apache is much more integrated in *nix than in windows

well, it is

so there is one argument
but I was looking for stability/security arguments

if they’re using SVN in the first place, I’d go the whole hog anyway

also, since apache is not integrated in the package management in windows, updates will have to be manual
yeah, tru

well, yeah – stability: *nix doesn’t crash 3 times a week, Wintendo does
SVN isn’t even available as a service on Wintnedo
if it were, it could be made slightly more dependable

maybe the real Q is “is there any good reasons why one should not run windows in a mission critical production environment”

*nix apache isn’t even approachable by WIntendo lusers, so there’s no chance of them screwing it up either
aywhite: that’s always a valid question, and sadly , often the answer is yes, there are several
such as the programmers knowing only dot.not, or the company not having experience with ergo no trust in *nix
well, I’m going to read some before heading off to the store

don’t run windows in a production environment, unless you REALLY know what you’re doing

and if you do, protext it by a unix-based firewall

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