subElementRect(QStyle:ubElement, const QStyleOption*, const QWidget*) const’:

/usr/bin/sshd (security reasons). but why not use the init.d script?

…/../include/QtCore/../../src/corelib/arch/qatomic_x86_64.h:105: error: inconsistent operand constraints in an `asm’
wha?

kerframil, what IS the init.d script?

/etc/init.d/ssh

shut-, if it were me i would try a different monitor to see if thats the problem, but you said you only have one monitor…

shoo! go to sleep ;

/etc/init.d/sshd that is

thanks fieldy

you’re worse than me.

in a few minutes
ah thanks

any time my homie

lol

“emerge -C apr apr-util subversion && emerge –deep subversion” seems to fix svn

the mac ‘n’ cheese gives me special powers of typo-sensing

I thought it would :p

alas, after I finish it, I will be a mere mortal like the rest of you again

told you apr was a pain.

true

yea i do only have the one

anyone knows what to do about compile bug for qt4 under amd64 w/ gcc 3.4.6?

3.4.6? why so old?

my emerge just crashed with a segfault on updating glibc and now when i run emerge it just prints Segmentation fault and stops.. any suggestions?

might want to ask #gentoo-amd64 too, or search bugs.gentoo.org and forums.gentoo.org

shut-, if you are getting a resolution error, and you have only one monitor how are you typing in irc?
do you have a laptop?

jeeeeeevces

dooooooork

-c

a dork is a whales penis

I just finished emerging GNOME and /etc/init.d/avahi-dnsconfd doesn’t exist

a whale’s penis?
isn’t there an ‘avahi’ USE flag?
yes there is

Hello, I just did a major update that brought in Gnome 2.18 and now gnome doesn’t start correctly

no idea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dork

how do you start GNOME?

It just comes up and seems to be unable to display any dialogs or anything, I am currently stuck at the blank screen with what is probably an error dialog t
that doesnt display anything

so include avahi in the USE variable… then re-emerge gnome?

run revdep-rebuild -p

I am using xdm to launch gdm and then logging in

GDM still works?
possibly – I don’t remember if it’s enabled by default or not

seems to work fine, though it undid my theme settings, which is easy to fix assuming I can log in and run gdm-setup

emerge –info | grep avahi
so you try to start GNOME with GDM, and what happens?

there is more to subversion than hat the faw says, care to know?

precious little…it goes to a blank screen (default background color) and a big gray box in the top left corner (presumably a dialog box)

what would a standard(desktop user) set of use flags be?

k, disable xdm/gdm, and start GNOME with ‘gnome-session’, look for error messages

there is no border or anything, just a grey box like it wants to draw something there

yes?

oh? can you right-click?
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop

emerge -1 apr apr-utils pulls in apr-0.9.2 and 1.2.8, but apr-util only pulls in the latest, 1.2.8, and then subversion cant find /usr/bin/apu-config, and thus not build unless you emerge both apr-util-0

gentoo econobeing profile upgrade

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/new-upgrade-to-gentoo-1.4.xml

apr-util-0* and apr-util-1*

gentoo econobeing gentoo upgrading

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

a good idea to decide whether you’re going to use GNOME, KDE, both, or neither

nope, no right clicking

k, start with gnome-session, it should be easier to debug

how do I start a gnome session? should i be doing that as user or root? user just bt bitched that it cant open the display

user is fine, you just use the executable ‘gnome-session’

interesting. I only have 1.2.8. perhaps you have something that relies upon the older (slotted) version.

but you’ll probably want to disable and exit xdm/gdm first

very possibly

qdepends -r apr

I did /etc/init.d/xdm stop
did startx as user, came up gave me 3 xterms, typed gnome-session in one of the xterms

thanks

no no
gnome-session from the console
not startx

oops, -Q not -r

=net-nds/openldap-2* depends on both 0. and 1.

Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

with -Q only itself and apache comes up

openldap doesn’t depend on apr in any shape or form.

k that’s a start – look that one up

seems more than gnome was updated

sorry, that was the -r, the -Q gave itself and apache, confirmed by emerge -pet apache

qdepends -vQ apr-1
or -0 even

yes

if depends -vQ apr-0 shows up nothing then you can nuke it.

did a full update and revdeps and so on emerge saysnothing else to update and revdep says everything is kosher

see msg
apr-0 has openldap as a dependancy

basically all the things I see say that it is a symptom of the xserver not running

what happens if you try to restart X

that’s not making any sense. it can’t have it as a direct dependency (indirect, maybe).

that’s the output, pasted in msg

how? I am using xdm to start x and GDM
i can do startx as a user and it brings up a really basic X with 3 xterms

ok, so apache needs the older version.

yeah

did you update your xdm.conf file in /etc/conf.d ?

good thing we have slots.

during an etc-update/dispatch-conf ?

and since apr-0 is on the system, subversion builds against it and then needs apr-util-0
as far as they work, yes

ok, I follow.

if I type startx and get the X server up, and then gnome-session I just get a empty grey box that comes up and no errors in the xterm

grep gdm /etc/xdm.conf

so the basic command to clean this is: emerge portage-utils gentoolkit && emerge -1 $(qlist -qIC e
xpat gettext python XML-Parser dbus) && revdep-rebuild — -X –library libexpat.so.0 && revdep-rebuild -X && emerge -C -q apr apr-util subversion && emerge -1 apr =apr-util-0* =apr-util-1* && emerge subversion
ick, sorry for the line wraps
just checking with revdep now that is doesnt leave anything unlinked
but why doesnt revdep see subversion as having broken linkage when it clearly is broken?

no xdm.conf

if that’s the case then I would definitely file a bug. the subversion ebuild _explicitly_ depends on =dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.8 and should pay no heed to 0.* versions whatsoever.

I was in here earlier asking about –sync’ing other computers on my network from one that was anlready syncd, but I wasn’t able to find out how

/etc/init.d/xdm starts gdm

oops – grep gdm /etc/xdm
blah

I’ll reproduce it on another test box and file in the morning, for now i need to get this show running fixing subversion and go to bed

oops – grep gdm /etc/conf.d/xdm *
lol

/etc/conf.d/xdm says DISPLAYMANAGER=”gdm”

if I install autofs, do I need to use it to mount all the filesystem ? or can I only use it for cdrom and usb ?

gdm comes up fine, its after the login that it goes stupid

what is your session set for ?

dragonbyte_, there should be an error report

where?

I emerged GNOME with this USE=”-qt3 -qt4 -arts -kde X gtk gnome hal avahi” and /etc/init.d/avahi-dnsconfd doesn’t exist

firstly, you might need to clear revdep-rebuild’s cache. secondly, it only picks up on packages which have broken links to ET_DYN ELFs (libraries) – broken as in “I can’t find the file that I’m supposed to be linking to”. that’s not a panacea, alas.

guys, he gets an error from gnome-session – it’s not GDM
you did what? :/

dragonbyte_, if gdm starts, you can try to log in right ?

yes, i log in, gnome “starts” and I get a grey dialog box with no border and nothing on it and it just hangs

The following is my USE variable in make.conf
USE=”-qt3 -qt4 -arts -kde X gtk gnome hal avahi”
After emerging gnome, /etc/init.d/avahi-dnsconfd doesn’t exist

ah okay

dragonbyte_, look @ /var/logs/Xorg.0.log
at the bottom, there should be an error

cache cleaned, and ldconfig clearly shows subversion not finding a file explcitily, so that should pick it up?

the Xserver doesnt hang, I can still move the mouse and such, and there arent any erorrs

I guess so.

gnome just fails to finish starting

dragonbyte_, uf wierd, tried runing revdep-rebuild ?

Does /etc/init.d/avahi-dnsconfd need to exist for gnome to work properly?

yup, nothing

your session is jacked up

Nobody knows anything about ‘/etc/init.d/avahi-dnsconfd’?

oh well, another mystery for another day

yeah

even starting it on an xterm it doesnt give any errors
I hate when things go stupid for no discernable reason…I like error messages and logs telling me what went wrong ; ;

thanks for the help tho

its usually operator errors

yeah…you would think at some point I would learn to quit updating gentoo

or learn how to properly update gentoo ?

how is that?

apparently not how your doing it ?
but thats beside the point ..

Does anyone in here find emerging world as simple on Sabayon as Gentoo?

saying sabayon will get you shot
but its just as easy, but takes longer

ok any ideas on why the session is hanging or how to troubleshoot it?

in gdm, what is your session set for ?

BaseXsession=/etc/X1/gdm/Xsession?
any ideas?
son of a bitch!
well found part of the problem

gj

i went to /root and deleted .g* basically (any gnome/gtk crap) and it logged in fine
so apparently 2.18 is choking on the 2.16 configs somewhere

maybe you never updated conf files when you should have
dispatch-conf/etc-update

did those, dispatch does nothing, etc-update says nothing to do

you did them before or after you deleted a bunch of confs? :p

but neither of those do anything with your . files in your home dir do they?

ah, no

hey channel…i got into a mighty frustrating downward spiral earlier today (started with trying to install gnash) and now my dbus, hal, local and local won’t work for booting up, and trying to fix that problem, i ran out of disk space! lol…and i thought i was being generous with 10G on a distro i wanted to try and keep relatively lean

gettinthere, if you run out of disk, first thing to do is rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/* – that’ll clean up any leftover emerge junk
then clean distfiles, i think ‘gentoolkit’ includes eclean

k, i will clean it out…although i was thinking of using gparted from my other working distro to make the root partition larger…i haven’t even installed apache, mysql, php and mythtv yet

WTF?!

i’ve already got /home on another partition, and would put all my mythtv recordings/videos, etc on a huge xfs partition that i already use for kubuntu here

seriously this is going to drive me insane

gettinthere, i don’t see how you’d fill up 10gb that fast if you just have gnome or stuff, unless you have a failed openoffice build left in /var/tmp/portage

I removed all of those files as a user and it still wont freaking start

When I boot up gnome, it complains about using dbus-launch. Any ideas?

so how big should my root partition for gentoo be?

gettinthere, my mythtv box has 10, it works fine

it is because of gentoo using /usr really

i have some failed builds there…eg. boost, kdelibs…

has 2 gb free, now that i cleaned up the 2gb of just this morning

How can I tell ut2003 what ky cdkey is?

gettinthere, do an rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/* – see how much space you get back. that won’t break anything – i promise
n3kl, there’s instructions printed when you emerge it, or read the ebuild file.

remember, i was trying to install gnash, it requires boost, and that got me into a whole pile of crap…yes, i did a partition analysis and it is /usr/ that’s using up most of the space

gettinthere, if /usr has most of the space, it’s probably distfiles
check how big your /usr/portage/distfiles is

well, usr/ is 59.2% of the 10G

how do i fix a genkernel error?

it uses about 8Gig if var and tmp and on different paritions

cool, thanks

s/and/are/

ok, moving on to the other major issue…d-bus error at boottime: console says it can’t find libexpat.so.0, that there’s no such file,
but i did a locate immediately, and that file does exist!

updatedb not locate
what is the problem?

i always do an updatedb b4 a locate
i know how fast the db gets outdated

hello

hi

This old laptop has surely seen better days. I can’t get X to start reliably with acceleration.

how do i tell D-BUS where the file it’s looking for is? it’s simply incorrect when it says the file doesn’t exist

does the file exist?

yes

/msg mzbot faq expat

check the symlink

d-bus just can’t find it

kill me … i cannot get these freaking expat errors resolved …. someone seriously fu**** up with that one.

What’s the problem?

/topic

libexpat is the package by the way

teach gettinthere expat

dev-libs/expat-2.0.1 has recently been marked as stable (this is necessary for upcoming versions of other packages in portage). Unfortunately, it is not ABI compatible with earlier versions so some breakage is to be expected and the upgrade path can be tricky! We recommend to run: emerge portage-utils gentoolkit && emerge -1 $(qlist -qIC expat gettext python XML-Parser dbus) && revdep-rebuild -X –library libexpat.so.0 –

sorry expat

CareBear\: i run the command as recommended by mzbot, but when it gets to mod_python, it can’t find libexpat

Pastebin the build log?

lol…now i’ve got some hand-writing to do
thx…this should get me started anyway

CareBear\: 1 sec

you probably need to rebuild apr/apr-util separately first. it’s a pain in the backside (I had a long discussion about it with another user earlier).

How do I fix the dbus-launch error when launching gnome?

im havin a error on the gen kernal all
genkernal all

for example: emerge -C apr-util apr && emerge -1 apr mod_python

orlly, Genkernel bug http://xrl.us/3fzp

https://bugs.gentoo.org/3 nor, P2, x86, tneidt@fidnet.com-danarmak@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, FIXED, poedit-1.1.5.ebuild

I’d be curious to know if that helps.

If it’s “Command not found” it’s because it’s ‘genkernel’

jeeves, tab completion got you

What’s bug 1?

i’ll try

Bug #1 does not exist.

anybody have an idea what the point is of man pages being in the wiki ?

compiling sdl-image gives me headache this time… I’m having weird serie of mysteric compile errors today. http://rafb.net/p/PvVLs495.html for error log. and http://rafb.net/p/57mYpt27.html for the /var’s log file

Ubuntu bug #1 is good.
Jell-O-Fishi : Hmm – how do you mean?

http://pastebin.org/451

Jell-O-Fishi: none whatsoever, as far as I can discern.

Jell-O-Fishi: ups the wiki in google but yes it is anonying

CareBear\: gentoo-wiki has copies of some man pages

Well it’s handy to have them on the web I guess.

hmm I think emerge libsdl should fix that error

emerge apache

they are on the web. i can maybe understand gentoo specific tools man pages, but the generic man pages are all over the web.

Maybe even do revdep-rebuild -X

Jell-O-Fishi: it is actually a series as well

i can see that.

CareBear\: nope, already tried that … i’m rebuilding apr now

and other than making the index list a nice 2 column 4 each, i don’t see the point

Are you serious? Did revdep-rebuild not want to rebuild apache? That would be a bug.

ok, all u guys who sent me the expat info…i take it it’s all supposed to be on one long continuous line?

emerge -1 $(qlist -qIC expat gettext

dev-lang/python XML-Parser dbus) && revdep-rebuild -X –library libexpat.so.0 –

21. checking your blood pressure… a bit high, but we can proceed

Jell-O-Fishi: it does look like you will have a fight on your hands someone has made some effort there albeit slightly misguided

Hi! Somebody knows why the package kde-base/ksig is blocking my update in merge? See the error: http://paste.milk-it.net/546

yes.

milk-it you’ve emerged ksig earlier?
try unmerging and then try it again

portage man should be there

marking 3.5.7 for kde-packages is really causing headache for lots of users
broken libraries, broken links

hm.. please file bugs if you run into them (search first — http://bugs.gentoo.org )

Fieldy most of them have been stuff that you can fix by emerge -C package1 package2 ; emerge package1 package2
:/

pretty annoying if that’s “stable”

yeah

Milo-, no

milk-it no as you havent emerged it earlier?

does anyone know how quantum computing works programmatically ?

so it doesn’t exist yet?

—! /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdfjadetex.fmt doesn’t match pdfetex.pool
(Fatal format file error; I’m stymied)

genkernel is still not working

goddamnit you guys suck at packaging

tried ln -s the heads still not fix

Milo-, I not emerged it earlier

k

language

Please help out.

Phantom-X: might want to try #hardware, we try to stick to gentoo subjects here

ok, I’m try unmerging and try merge it

sorry

Jell-O-Fishi: what about it

no gentoo in quantumcomputers ?

if you’ve run into a bug, the best thing you can do is search for a bug already filed about it, or filea new one, http://bugs.gentoo.org

milk-it I had to do “emerge -C kdelibs package2 ; emerge kdelibs package2″ for one blocked package :/

mind it

Jell-O-Fishi: I sure do

Milo-, Are you knows if exist any program that show my log de merge?
sorry, my english is poor

well its half back

hmm I couldn’t understand :/

which is the prefered 3d desktop in gentoo compiz or beryl?

i’m having a compile error on prepare statement of genkernel

worst case, if i can’t fix this libexpat crap, will emerge -e world fix it?

if the program exists when you try emerge -C program
it will say so

teach sleek about expat

dev-libs/expat-2.0.1 has recently been marked stable (this is necessary for upcoming versions of other packages in portage). Unfortunately, it is not ABI compatible with earlier versions so some breakage is to be expected. We recommend to run: emerge portage-utils gentoolkit && emerge -1 $(qlist -qICe expat gettext python XML-Parser dbus apr apr-util) && revdep-rebuild -X –library libexpat.so.0 –

Note that the command has been revised to tell emerge to be a bit more specific

Not neccessarily. revdep-rebuild really should be your friend here.

Errr, hold that thought.

cruxeternus i believe I can do revdep-rebuild -X –library libgii.so.0 libexpat.so.0
to fix both of my library problems at the same time?

Milo- : For multiple libs I think you have to provide multiple –library
–lib a.so –lib b.so

k

Ok, unhold the thought. faq looks correct

Milo-, allright, but now a new package is broken…

milk-it 8C

kde-base/kpf

ok…this expat file/library seems to be gviing a lot of pps probs

revdep-rebuild
milk-it you probably want to run what mzbot said

not if they read elog stuff

emerge portage-utils gentoolkit && emerge -1 $(qlist -qICe expat gettext python XML-Parser dbus apr apr-util) && revdep-rebuild -X –library libexpat.so.0 –

mzbot suggested one long line of code, right?

yes

that one
cla, i’m too new to gentoo to be reading elog stuff…give me a week or so, k?

if you’re upgrading your system right now it’s more than possible that you’ll run into those problems somewhere along the way

you got it

Hi. I have 535 instaled package… made emerge –depclean and it removed only 11 packages… Anybody know how if may i do some other thing to remove programs that any program din’t uses?

You’ll get there faster if you read all you can.

ok…madame butterfly is finished doing her schtick…time to log off and get back to my gentoo- fixing

how do you see how many installed packages you have?

CareBear\ blaah, had to do revdep-rebuild -X –lib blaah –lib blaahagain

trim your world file of things that you don’t really want. then run –depclean again. also, tone down your USE flags (or consider setting flags on a per-package basis rather than globally) … rinse and repeat.

CareBear\: i *love* reading lol
bye for now

heh he reminds me of my self when I started moving to linux

when doing large emerges, it’s hard not to notice how much time is spent in autotools… Is there anything to speed all these duplicated autoconf runs up?

Milo-, I unmerged the package kde-base/ksig, but new I don’t merge it
I’m running the revdep-rebuild

there were efforts to do just that, but they never worked correctly

milk-it do the big line which the mzbot suggested

oh, if you do change USE flag policy then *never* run –depclean again until you’ve done a emerge -auDN world to bring packages into line.

you’ll run into the problem sooner or later ayways
anyways

man xfce4 rocks

loops, it’s impossible to properly do, simply because each configure script is too different, and deps are changing constantly.

specially because it doesn’t exist

Fieldy, okay fair enough.. just a bit frustrating to sit through the same autoconf questions over n over… will just have to learn to look the other way.

what’s the channel for gentoo’s kernel related support?

kerframil, “change USE flag policy” is the change that I do on /etc/make.conf setting $USE?

revdep-rebuild is not silver bullet. users have been reporting issues for hours now that could not have been solved just by running revdep-rebuild alone.

Many argue that autotools is horribly horribly broken.
It certainly is not particularly efficient.

yes.

CareBear\, they may be onto something

alvin_lee, that is one way or you can place certain USE flags for certain packages in /etc/portage/package.use