I’ve been on that page

both?

Any ideas how to test virtual directories before going live. Using Linux, Apache.

virtual… what?

I’d like to use something like lynx to test www.domain1.com
virtual hosts
’sites/domain1.com

ah

without having to redirect domain1.com DNS to my webserver?

well
use the hosts file on your computer to set ip to the webserver

in /etc/hosts add domain1.com localhost
lynx http://domain1.com

no

nah, only lullabots

add domain1.com ipaddress

Ok, thanks

reading the second one now

no
i was wrong on the syntax
66.98.244.73 drupal4hu.com
this is a living and working example
i added this to hosts because i wanted to tested the new site & new drupal of drupal4hu.com before launch and forgot to remove

I’ve read some of the scsa before

not many ppl in that chanel

Hi there. Does someone has experience with the Organic Groups module? This is my problem: I’ve benn created 2 groups, a normal user can see the Audience checkboxes, but the site administrator can’t see the checkboxes

what about the access control settings ?

well, the admin user (the user that installed drupal) don’t appear on the access control settings screen.
It’s like a super user for drupal host isn’t it?

right
user 1 has every possible permission, there is a special check in code for it
however
if you are not developing then
support?

support is #drupal is reserved for development discussions (please see channel topic). Volunteers offering live support can be found in #drupal-support. If no one is available in #drupal-support, try the forums at http://drupal.org/forum). Thank you for
giving us a space to work on improving Drupal for you!

oh, ok
sorry
thank you. see you

can anybody help me in Views module? i have a simple question

meta?

Simply ask your question. No need to ask to ask . Unless you are doing a census, asking whether anyone uses a module isn’t going to result in a useful answer.

you want threaded followups?

yes!

holy moly who will be able to follow that in a 200 followup issue?

okay

who does so in a forum issue?
err topic

forum topics rarely grew this large and they are even more rarely important

morning folks

hi Dries__

and li’s are enetered automatically to the output, how can i get rid of these i dont want any tags in the result

I still want to at least try it.

looks like we’re off for a slow start with drupal.org — normally the site is snappy on Monday mornings

yeah….
I am not sure why.
I went to bed at 5 assuming that nnewton would fix whatever was bugging it.

9 out of 10 page requests give me the load balancer site offline message

he did something, but it didn’t last

lol

hardcode drupal.org to one of the webheads in /etc/hosts
I never get to see that message.

hi

thousands of other people get to see that message

so now is the time when the Patch goes in ?

i’ve been seeing it several times a day the last couple of weeks
and the message isn’t even funny :p

yeah, I know it exists
I didn#t write it.

the least we could do is serve up some good jokes

it got cached by squid
that problem is fixed now.
so when you now see the message there is a real problem…

also, what’s your take on threaded followups? killes here says he wants threaded followups.

like now….

i’m cool with threaded follow-ups … people can disable it if they don’t like it
and how does one figure out what the problem is?

I wish I knew

is it _really_ a load balancer problem or could it be about anything? (Is the message accurate?)

no, the loadbalancer is working fine.
I think you get the message when the DB is overloaded.
like now…

meh

see the cacti graphs.

can we disable some blocks and features?

can do that

lets nuke the forum block and stuff

ok, you or I?

i can’t get on the site — i have a permanent ’site offline’ message
been like that for the last 20 minutes
(and I have to help out Karlijn for a bit — be back in 10 minutes)

disable search?

Dries__, no problems here though

hi

I am strongly considering this, yes…

i did some benchmarking for CVS HEAD, LOB patch, and oracle driver. i face some difficulty about oracle driver’s performance, may someone help me?
http://edin.no-ip.com/html/?q=node/281

oracle? :p

yup, also for oracle driver
i face a critical issue, but have no idea about solving it…

back
i still can’t get on drupal.org — so I can’t really whack any functionality to recover some db cycles

I am doing it

i can get onto the main page now, but not onto subpages yet

all modules switch to “Ignored (No available releases found)”.

I am in the process of disabling the forum and the “most active project”/”most active developers” blocks.

you might want to tell that to dww

well, it is kind of correct :p

ok, thanks

that too

it’s sort of correct, but not really helpful for the user — it doesn’t let me know _why_ there are no releases found

sure, see the smilie

it might be a good idea to disable comments and forum topics until the performance issues are solve

btw, we are getting Locked queries again…

from?

the blocks query
that one was locked.
ie the one that each page view does.

ah, k
why do we have the Blog API module enabled?

I’ve no idea

i’ll disable some modules

ok

‘Search IRC nick’ module?
we don’t really need that at times like these

right
I wonder where it comes from.
I didn’t add it.

neither did I

Isn’t there an IRC nick field in the user profiles? Perhaps it has something to do with that?

it’s a silly module — we have 150k users on the site, and 60 users in #drupal
these 150k users don’t have to suffer from that — let’s just disable it for now

sure it has.
but I’d assume that either Dries or I would know somethign about it.

ping.
heh
btw, not sure if you read the e-mail, but robloach cleaned up that fonts licensing issue.

I did read, many thank!

np, just making sure you were aware of it
also, will you be interested in porting that session patch to 4-7?
s/porting/committing/

which patch?

cookie domain / session name etc.

well, let’s see if I get to look in my patch queue. :p

#56357
56357?
http://drupal.org/node/56357

I was kind of hoping the latest release would have been the last one.

Drupal, user system, critical, fixed, 11 IRC mentions
Drupal, user system, critical, fixed, 12 IRC mentions

the slow query log is mailed regularly?

yes, once per week
I am not sure when is the next date.
If you want copy, let me know

ping

hi

Concerning drupal.org: wouldn’t it be a good idea to disable the mandatory ‘preview’ when posting a reply? The sevrver is so slow and it owuld be nice to cut the wait in half…

yay, somebody read my guide to Drupal benchmarking.

yo. privatemessage: would you be interested in a cron clean-up feature? *Delete* all _read_ messages older than X days?

really useful

delete? archive
the archive table could be cleaned up too after some time.

Either way.

yes.

k

btw, i really face a great performace problem… oci_num_rows() ONLY return number for AFFACTED rows!

that’s the same as mysql, no?

1. fetch all and get number of rows 2. re-execute query for further more fetch
NO! it is oci8 bugs…
http://hk2.php.net/manual/en/function.oci-num-rows.php
This function does not return number of rows selected! For SELECT statements this function will return the number of rows, that were fetched to the buffer with oci_fetch*() functions.

ah
well, I can’t help you there.

so oracle driver’s performance is down for a double…

session patch: can I go ahead and backport it?

well, if you feel strongly about it.

I do

k

I also need to restrict the contact list to a module-specific subset of the user list. I’m currently form altering everything. But perhaps, this can be API-fied.

interesting thought

which path does the update module access to get it’s data?

given the current ui (js autocomplete) you can hardly form alter

checking

I use a contact list instead, with checkboxes.. not unlike the previous avatar of the module.

defaults to http://updates.drupal.org/files/release-history
but currently this page also gives The load balancer was unable to select any live web node

ADoes nybody have experiecne with memcached?

what’s the use case
i am here
nowpublic would not be able to work without memcached

willing to hold my hand as I update d.o to run memcached?

i contributed heavily against memcache project
sre.
*sure

cool

it requires planning.

about half the queries that are in the backlog are relted to the cache.

user can only contact referrers and referees (sic).

what do you want to cache.

the memcached module simply replaces the cache* tables.

that’s not as simple as that

How mature is the file cache module?

memcached does not support wildcard deletes, so for example menu requires a separate memcache daemon
is it ported to D5?
i have not seen any activity around it

I think moshe committed to it recently.

the README for memcache module doesn’t mention that.

really.

Assuming fastpath_fscache is it.. last commit was 2 days ago : “#109547. ported to D5.. patch by moshe weitzman, with parts by robert gerola and…”

please have a look.

i can’t review patches at this point — the site is just too slow

I do not care about README

i’ll help with the performance patches, and come back to the book module patch later on

but I do :p

what about I show a settings.php snippet to you?

Robert didn’t write it to be ignored.
sure

I used memcached before Robert did…

are you ok with me taking d.o down to install memcached?

sure

k thanks

you never know — it might help a lot

pm’d you

‘memcache cluster name’

memcache cluster name

are there any drupal.org mirrors or any plans to create one?

if you tell me how to create a live mirror, I might set up one. :p

is the setup now clear?

not yet

ask

if you’d kindly look at the README:…

yes

I was hoping that the firsdt section after ## SERVERS ##
would apply.
I want to run memcached on each webhead separately.

that’s very inefficient

for now.

i mean, one memcache for all cache

that may be, but it get stuff away from the database.
ah?

doesn’t have to be live one maybe updated once a day, just to find useful info, etc… or is drupal.org going to be better?

generally you’d balance the sessions across all the webservers with memcached on each one …
there’s no fail-over then though …

well everythign is better than the db
go for it

not true … NFS sessions sucks
err, check out that awesome grammar :p
I think they might be worse than DB sessions

damn, what’s the download directory of all the modules of drupal again?

ftp.osuosl.org/.1/drupal

where’S the memcahced conf file usually?

Thanks.

?????
settings.php $conf
or the daemon? that uses no conf, that uses command line args

have any thoughts ever been given to not issuing cookies to users unless they require them? (making upstream caching much better)

/usr/local/bin/memcached -d -m 150 -l 67.15.102.70 -p 11211 -u apache
example.
-d run as daemon
-m how many megabytes
-l which buy dedicated ip to listen on
-p which port to listen on
-u username
latter only for security.

what distro does drupal.org run on ?

gentoo

yeah ?
random

yes, seems Moshe now uses the module so he fixed it up

that’s a strange concept…

I assume gentoo has an ebuild and init.d script for memcached
with like something in conf.d to specify those params or something …

I’ve found a start script.
any ideas about the -m parameter?

lots and lots
half gig.

you must have some idea of how much space sessions were taking up before ?

well you go for one… 150M enough
i am off to the gym

I am not talking about sessions. See memcache module

oh, righto
oh, so it’s used as page cache etc ?

rtfm

Hmmm,
http://drupal.org/project/memcache — is that the page you’re talking about ?

yes but plz do not disturb killes

righto

he is working hard to get d.o. better

hello
I’m trying to create a view with a translated title, but I’m not able to use t(“string”) in the title, and if I use php in the block/title submenu, its displayed as class content and not title

killes ping
is there a separate infrastructure channel?

hi
no

all issues have been discussed here so far

cool
in general, if you set up a memcached instance for each cache table that’s best

ic

that avoids unneccesary clearing

I wanted to keep it simple for now….
can we try to get it to simplye work for npw? :p

sure.
you make one memcached instance somewhere.

I have done that.

‘default’)

however, all I get is wsod…
the readme says I don’t need that. :p

‘default’)

true.
but that’s for a single server environment.
you need each settings.php to address the memcached instance with an IP
otherwise it defaults to localhost.
and the goal of memcache is to avoid redundant cachig
so you want all web nodes to hit the same cache.

well, I wanted to get it to run on one first.
I think I made a stupid mistake.
I forgot to switch on the module :p

the module is not essential.

‘path/to/memcache.db.inc’

ah
well, still wsod

the module gives admins debug information, like devel module.
can you show me $conf from settings.php?

sure
see msg

hmm is drupal.org down? I have blank page

I’ve also got Active persistent connections = 0 when I call up phpinfo.

Is there a drupal function to convert from json to php?

what’s happening with drupal.org ?

drupal site offline?

it seems it has been having problem lately

hey, I’m in need of adding some info (like a tag or boolean) to a few of my pages, so that I can test for that page in my page.tpl.php file

it’s having problems cause of you, sitting there at home, pressing F5 furiously on www.drupal.org with your Fasterfox plugin tuned to the max from your broadband connection

bushwakko, Would you please ask in #drupal-themes ?

did you change the forum_nav_vocab?

no

strange
it was set to 8 wheras it needs to be 1…

i haven’t touched drupal.org in 1-2 hours

I just remebered that we talked about disablign forums.

killes, did you had a chance to evaluate my proposition from yesterday yet?
hmm, brb

no
try the site now.

“still slow but better” ?

yeah, I think the same.
the memcached setup needs some tweaking

the issue pages still give me a timout
although the main page might be slightly snappier

what do oyu mean by “issue page”?

i.e. http://drupal.org/project/issues?projects=3060&states=8

takes a while, but I get it
you need to activate the memcache module on drupal.be

actually, no.
The memcache module is only to get debug information.

well, i could activate it if necessary

the entire practical installation is including the cache.inc
it isn’t necessary.

i’m off for a quick lunch, but i’ll be back in 15 minutes

It is just useful to see if things are working

what does add the “serialized” column actually? :p
it is lacking from the tables.

oh
point taken.
yes, you need to turn the memcache module on
then you can turn it off.
So damn complicted.
this will be much simpler in D6.

do you have a calendar which shows the week of the year?

no
31.

that’s the current?
heh, I just got a enquiry about a seminar to be held in KW 31/32. :p
people…
too bad one can’t sell time twice. :p

badluck
any luck with d.o. ? many people ask what’s going on

why, isnt it working for you?

well, I got used to the heavy load issue lately

well, I just installed memcached that should help a bit

yes, it helps, I was told that you work on it…

should I send you a list of performnce related patches that need to be investigated?

what are the main issues, I’m pretty ok with webserver stuff

the main current issue is testing of the maste/slave patch
http://drupal.org/node/147160

Drupal, database system, normal, patch (code needs review), 15 IRC mentions

anybody might know why would I ended up with a menu entry, which has option to “reset”, but not to “delete” ?

probably because it wasn’t user-created

ack

makes sense, but how to get rid of it ?
like, I think it was created when playing with views

is there anyway to change the site theme before the page is rendered? (from within a module)
i tried setting $conf['theme_default'] = ‘xxxx’ but that gets ignored

pong.

such menu items are generated from entries in hook_menu. you can disable but not delete them

i need to add a table using subquery, like this “(SELECT * FROM {other_table}) as my_custom_table”
how can i do this?

Drupal.org is at least up.

we put memcache on d.o.

i knoiw

so, anyone knows how to have a block title which can be translated?

i was here when that started

k
chx never sleeps
chx is always watching
chx is in ur chat room readin ur infrastructr

chx is in ur infrastructure, creatin new synergiez.

chx is in ur mindz keepin you undistracted