you might try something like this for future reference: http://www.howtoforge.com/mysql_database_replication

Can anyone recomend a dual head video card with at least 128 meg of RAM and works with FC6? Under $150 US.

google or pricewatch.com

I did that, I’m looking for opinions.
Or experience.

agree with mgrant…

plenty of dual head nvidias

I used livna.
the nVidia driver didn’t work, so I tried legacy.

can someone help me resolf my wireless issue?

Thanks. No particular model stands out?

That worked fine, I even got 3D stuff running. But then it would freeze randomly and nothing would work.
And I’d have to turn off the computer and boot it back up

nvidia 5600 2x dvi for a bout 70$ with 128 meg

swede_, i really love the nvidia 7600gs

did you use system-config-network as the howto suggests?

Oh, uh, forgot, I don’t have PCI-e, just PCI. or AGP.

yes

cool, thank you. hehehe, I’ve been getting smart errors from the hard drive, just now the cylinders that are ‘non-recoverable’ are growing in faster increments than before

swede_, oh nvm that then

and?

its not listed in there

did you click “new” .. wireless .. etc etc ?

yes

cat /etc/modprobe.conf
rafb.net/paste

opsec maybe you can help me out here too that toshiba is slow as hell with everything it does for some reason i can t figure out

alias eth1 ath_pci
alias ath0 ath_pci
options ath_pci autocreate=sta
alias eth0 r8169
alias scsi_hostadapter pata_atiixp
alias scsi_hostadapter1 ahci
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-hda-intel index=0
~

its a p4 with 2.8ghz 1 gig ram

is it a good idea to remove every file in /tmp, reboot everytime

i’m not helping you any further .. STOP PASTING in this channel and get a damn clue.
rossi-fl: i’m not sure, that is pretty general

hmm
its retardetly slow the hdd gets turned off al the time and it takes ages to spin it back up and the data transfer takes ages
am i missing the chipset driver or something??

rossi-fl, you might just have a really bad hd

hmm yeah
well i try another one
see if that fixes it

ok, reading ‘man mysqldump’ says that I can dump all this to a backup file, and can use ‘mysql db_name backupfile.sql’ to get it back in, the link you posted, opsec, says a little different, are both valid ways to do backups?

the howto is a general linux howto, trust fedora man pages more.

ahhh, ok

so does anyone have much knowledge about madwifi?

When GNOME 2.20 is released will there a Fedora 7 upgrade via yum?

probably not worth the maintence effort
particularly since people will be wanting to move to F8 by then anyway

2.20 is slated by October.
F8 is next year

No, F8 is early November.

coolness

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule

I have a quick question on software raid5 and drive assignment. How do you physically tell what drive is bad when raiding sata drives? To be clear – if drive sda fails, Physically how do you locate which of 3 or 4 drives it is?

hmm mark em before you put em in??
heh
damn it takes 25 minutes to download the fd7 dvd

Ideas on making a bcm4318 work? I’ve got rawhide installed and even this latest b43 driver isn’t working.
This being broadcom wireless of course. Grr.

command not found’ when I try to run ‘depmod -ae’

whereis depmod

perhaps you did a ’su’ and not a ’su -’ so you don’t have roots path in place?

it’s been explained to you

Thanks mom
nirik; I’ll try your suggestion, thanks

you don’t have roots path or environment
btw.. “su” does not mean “super user” .. it means “switch user”

I’m doing everything I can to get up the learning curve, but there are a lot of small details that are easy to miss.
that seems to work, thanks

someone said my name?

yeah long time ago it was said
btw nice blog

thanks
that “long time” i was trying dominate Ubuntu into submission haha
the fglrx driver is *impossible* for me to get working with that X300SE

opsec how do i run fscheck at boot time so it checks my hdd out?

can someone help me with modprobe? i did su root and entered my password
but i bash still doesnt recognize the commad

Juniorbink, su – not just su

yeah

Juniorbink, exit; su – (do this)

thanx

hmm i tried the madwifi howto opsec linked earlyer but when i do yum install madwifi kmod-madwifi yum says nothing to do

rossi-fl, that needs livna i guess (if i am not wrong)

hmm whats livna

online fedora repository (third party)

hmm

rpm -q livna-release

not installed
where do i get a hold of it

wait a second let me check if the required packages are in livna or not

nvm my laptop hdd just took a shit
opsec was right

rossi-fl: which howto are you using? http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/madwifi-yum-livna/ ? where it has a link to configure livna at the top?

im having problems getting NFS working when using firestarter

rossi-fl, yup the packages you need are in livna. i think you didn’t read the link properly (the guide)

can anyone tell me why i might be getting Connetion refused when i have that computers hostname allowed?

probably thnx i m gonna switch the hdd and reinstall fedora

is host-name resolution working for you

openbysource, is that for me?

if not you can use ip address / subnet mask also
Alpha_Cluster, yeah

i am pretty sure the hostname is working
because wehn i switch it to the dedicated ip hosting it still says that

now i m pissed goddamn maxtor crap

doesnt f7 read udf files?

yes, yes it does

rossi-fl: shutdown -rF now

well it shows the cd as blank which means either its using some weird udf format or I dont have the udf reader installed

that will force your system to check the filesystem on reboot
it wil also immediately shutdown your system

opsec there s no shutdown no more it gave a loud klank crack and last thing i saw was you got new mail

sounds sexy.

gonna switch hdd real quick

with my mercury 810e motherboard, fedora 7 dont turn off the system when i do a “poweroff” or “shurdown -h now” or “init 0″
wat should i do ?
fyi I have turned off power management

turned off power management where?

‘klank crack’? hehe… sounds like fun
spectacular hdd head crashes are so fun

well the hdd was kinda funky in the first place you know slow and noisy

PowerMgmt

so it was whining and mewing and gasping at its impending demise

aright next hdd is a seagate

nice of it to warn you
I have had good luck with seagate

when i try to do a shutdown, it show me “System is halted” thing but dont turn off the power

well the one that dies was a maxtor
maxtor is crap

yes rossi-fl maxtor is crap

well they where good like 10 years ago

I had an ibm ‘deathstar’ in a notebook that died suddenly with a rather spectacular ‘pop! crack! griiiiinnnnd…’

repeat after me rossi-fl s-e-a-g-a-t-e

thats a scpi or apm problem

but now them fucking drives die faster then flies

*acpi

well i got a seagate in there now

watch the language rossi-fl

yeah sry

hitachi is best

kinda pissed off

moeSizlak, how to solve that

try adding apm=off to your kernel parameters
er, “apm=off acpi=on”

moeSizlak, okay will try

guys what is the alternative for sudo in gnome (fedora7)

i think my motherboard dont support acpi

then i wouldnt expect the powerdown to turn the pc off

its old 810e MB]

does windoze do it, or does it say “it is now safe to turn off your computer”

okay
i dont use windows

i dunno, try “apm=on acpi=off” and then try “acpi=on apm=off”

the root password prompts you get are consolehelper, usermode package

openbysource, gksudo sint it?

JohnMahowald, yeah i have usermode installed how do i use it for a custom launcher

not packaged yet

when i reinstall fedora what is better gnome or kde?

rossi-fl: install both and you tell us

umm’
well the new hdd seems to work trhere was ubuntu on it
hehe

ahh

follow the examples of existing apps that use it

so nobody has any ideas why my nfs connections may be being refused it doesnt seem to be firestarter since i ahve turned that off and i still get them

bb after fedora install

software updater. i saw it’s command it doesn’t mention anything related to usermode or consolehelper

oh but it does. what is /usr/bin/pup ?

yeah it is written /usr/bin/pup

Is it possible to get ipw3945 wireless to work in a 2.4x kernel?

LOL you again E-mu ???
just give up!

hehe

E-mu: no supported Fedora release ships with a 2.4 kernel

I got it to work in F7

WHY ON EARTH would you use a 2.4 kernel?

I want to get it to work in dsl on a usb flash drive

the haxorz will have a hayday w/ your box

it’s a symlink to consolehelper
RHEL/CentOS 3. Other older distros.

damn small fedora linux

linux 2.4 is still being maintained

wow, i dunno. seems like it’d be like switching from xp to windows 3.11 for workgroups

well knoppix 5.1.1 runs a 2.6xx kernel I suppose I might be able to get it to work on that

if i was you, i’d just give up

dsl is the way to go if you have a small falshdrive
I was currious if someone from this channel got that series card to work in dsl is all “P

did you have it working in fc7?

00% working now
..100

Uh, this isn’t a DSL channel

it was working last time u were here

why is it when I enter 1 its blank

1

hm
00%

you fail.

alone works but if I type 100% it doesn’t watch
00%

can we take the teaparty out of the channel please?

PLBKAC

ever heard of pink freud chicago? Pink floyd tribute band. THey are playing now at the end of my block and I still rather work on my project rather than listening to them

yeah, hang yourself

thats lateron when I get done with my project. I have to complete that before i hang

hey
quick question
anyone in here?

your irc client can tell you that, sort of

hello
two questions

at any rate, you’ll be helped quicker if you just ask

on fedora core 6, how do i get my IP
ya i was trying to find my user list
but im still new to this linux thing

man ifconfig

Trying to install wireless, getting an error ‘(system-config-network-gui:3138): libglade-WARNING **: Error loading image: Failed to open file

weird
i did type ifconfig
and it didnt work
[root@localhost html]# ifconfig

it’s not in your path as a normal user

ifconfig: command not found
oh

most administrative commands require you to switch to root user with “su -”

oh okay

note the dash there, it is required

su – or su -l or su –login

the reason i ask is
how do i enable ssh so i can login to this box from another PC

service sshd start

i just installed fedora core 6 today
=]

chkconfig sshd on
then it should be enabled by default

thanks opsec

you realize the latest version is Fedora 7?

why did you install fc6?

Looks like i’m missing network.xpm anyone know how I can get another copy?

f7 is available

im trying to learn linux
it is???
oh dang lol
[andrew@localhost ~]$ chkconfig sshd on
chkconfig: command not found

you’ve already been told how to solve that
stop pasting errors in here

it’s another one of those administrative commands

do i do su – chkconfig
or su first

merely an image, I don’t think it affects the functioning of s-c-n

use rafb.net/paste for errors .. do not paste into this channel

question for you, by default am i able to login as root with ssh from another computer?

fedoraos.org

yes.
you can change that behaviour in the ssh config

looking this over now, what website is this?

it’s fedoraos.org ..

sorry for being such a noob =[
=]

while compiling (make) ndiswrapper i get an error saying “Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.22.1-41.fc7-x86_64′. No rule to make target ‘Linux/wireles/ndiswrapper-1.47/driver’. stop”
can anyone please tell me what is happening?
atlast it says leaving directory and error 2 and exits

why are you building ndiswrapper?

to get my Broadcom wireless card working

which one?

BCM4310UART

JohnMahowald, I followed the fedoramobile.org instruction, but when try to do a system-config-network, the intel driver is nowhere to be found.

have you tried http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/bcm43xx-yum-extras/ ?

no I have not tried bcm43xx as I have seen some links saying it has a disadvantage as it supports only 11mbps and ndiswrapper 54mbps speed
uno I have not tried bcm43xx as I have seen some links saying it has a disadvantage as it supports only 11mbps and ndiswrapper 54mbps speed/u

intel driver for what chipset?
any native driver is preferable to ndiswrapper IMO

anyone know of some kind of gnome applet that does google translations?

i tried ndiswrapper from freshrpms but sometimes my laptop gets hanged while booting and sometimes when it boots wireless works fine

the google translator, kind of like the dictionary applet

JohnMahowald; I’m installing on T60p so I believe it’s 965

gvm, what is the wireless device?

BCM4310 UART

i think that’s the one i have
what laptop?

http://fedoramobile.org/wireless

http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/bcm43xx-yum-extras/

gvm, what laptop?

Compaq Presario V3133AU

listen up, most of you with wireless issues are not following the proper howto’s or you are not following the correct ones to the letter

opsec, i don’t have a wireless issue, i am going to tell him the solution suggested to me on the bcm list that works great

please pay strict attention to what is written.. don’t skip steps or try to second guess things

gvm, this new kernel has a fixed bcm43xx-mac80211
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/2.6.22.1/50.fc7/i686/kernel-2.6.22.1-50.fc7.i686.rpm

if you’re not having a wireless issue then i wasn’t addressing you

and it needs firmware v4 http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2

for translations I use http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/twandgtw/

Hello. How do I make it so a normal user can mount samba shares? I can’t have the entry in fstab, as its a laptop. I did ‘ chmod +s /sbin/mount.cifs’, but I still get a permission denied error.

after you extract the firmware, run fw-cutter on wl_apsta.o

there has been a nonstop flood of users with wifi issues today/tonight that have been chronically *not* listening to advice or not following correct howtos

I use 64bit OS

gvm, then get the 64 bit version of the kernel
im just saying the -50 has the fixed module
-41 is what is GA at the moment, i had to upgrade

” I can’t have the entry in fstab, as its a laptop” — what are you talking about?

juanmabc, this can use google translator, sir?

yes

i don’t think entries in fstab have to be automounted

awesome, i just wish it was an applet:O

I’ve seen work arounds for this by adding the share to /etc/fstab. That won’t work for me, as the system is a laptop and is not always going to see the server in question. I need a way for a normal user to type ‘mount //server/share /mnt/server -o username=user’ and have it work.

sudo

juanmabc, AH
you can’t copy the result!

thanks I will try it out and if I get problems I will be back

gvm, also you can join the bcm-43xx list
it’s good
juanmabc, that sort of defeats the whole purpose

ok I will thanks

I am going to name my next kid sudo

juanmabc, in gtw, you can’t “copy” the resulting translated word

maybe I will change it

juanmabc, you are the programmer?

if it is not spam yes

http://xkcd.com/149/

juanmabc, i just typed an english word but i can’t copy the resulting arabic
or am i missing something?

well, source is GPL

GPL is source

ok, I have: ‘user ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/mount.cifs’ but I still get this error: mount error: permission denied or not superuser and mount.cifs not installed SUID

uh downhillgames juanmabc had it right

juanmabc, gtw seems good, but it’s not of much use if you can’t copy and paste the result

nah
source is BSD, GPL, closed, whatever

try tw in command line ?

GPL = forcing source code

that seems to want some .tw files

f_newton; next!

tw –help

well thats silly but whatever

oh you are the author
juanmabc, do you use deskbar applet?

mount.cifs doesn’t have the suid bit set. if you were to run chmod u+s on /sbin/mount.cifs, i’m betting your problem will go away

Did that already. Thats why I’m here, asking WTF is broke.

I have it in a corner in the panel, use ? I think no

juanmabc, that doesn’t seem to work right

do a ls -al on mount.cifs and paste it on the pastbin

tw translate.google.com.en-ar hello

1

that translates a different result than gtw does

When I look at the ipw3945 service the status is ipw3945d dead but subsys locked, how do I unlock the subsystems?

What good does it do you to put mount.cifs in sudoers?

take away that stuff in the sudoers file for the mount.cifs, and I think that will fix it

So far, it hasn’t done me any good. I was hoping to allow normal users to mount smb/cifs shares. Putting them in fstab isn’t possible, as I’d have to know every share they may want to mount ahead of time.

just set the suid bit on the mount.cifs cmd and you’ve got what you’re after, no need for the sudoers stuff

Same error after sudoers has been removed.

Why would it do any good? Mount’s helper programs aren’t being run under control of sudo. If you truly think you need this, then they need to be able to run *mount*, not the helper programs.

ok, reset the perms on the mount.cifs, chmod 755 /sbin/mount.cifs, and then chmod u+s /sbin/mount.cifs

Which won’t work either.

when all is said and done, ls -al will look like this: rwsr-xr-x

Mount’s just going to say “only root can do that”.

It does look like that, but its still pissed.

hmmm
mine is like that and works fine

Mount, after all, is already suid root.

I’m actually calling /sbin/mount.cifs directly.

If I followed the fedoramobile.org instructions for installing wireless and have re-confirmed that all files are where they should be and the wireless still doesn’t work, cans someone tell me what the next steps would be?

And you’re doing something silly like that because…?

the mount.cifs has to be like that also. by default, the perms on mount.cifs is rwxr-xr-x.

because mount was already suid.

Your problem has nothing to do with whether the application is suid or not (mount already is, the helper programs inherit it), but whether mount allows non-UID 0 users to do whatever operation is being asked of it.

how do you make this work, because I’ve never been able to use the mount command to mount smb shares by itself as a regular user

And that is controllable where?

Nowhere. It’s not something that’s “controllable”.

i’ve always used mount.cifs and it worked after setting the suid bit as a regular user

Users can mount smb shares if either (a) they’re specified that they can in fstab, or (b) they have write access to the mount point.

most of the time, the share isn’t in the fstab.

Actually, (b) doesn’t work any more either.

and it still don’t work if you specify the file system type with the mount command

Far, far, FAR better to do things correctly with sudo than by changing suid bits.

mwilson, how do we do this?

Watch some cluebie use that to mount something over the top of /usr
Not that they couldn’t do it with sudo, either, but at least with sudo you have control over WHO can do it.

I just discovered while you’re typing that b) doesn’t work anymore. However, you’ve yet to give us a solution that does work. So far, no changes I’ve made to sudoers lets it work.

you can’t mount over /usr, since /usr is owned by root

http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/sudo/

Sure you can, if you make the helper suid

the mount point has to be owned from the user still yet

Not.

hi everyone

just tried it, didn’t work
said permission denied or not super user and mount.cifs not installed suid

dell $ ls -ld test
0

“didn’t work” is NEVER an answer or a description of a problem

sorry opspec, i’ll give better desc next time

dell $ sudo mount -t cifs //mina/apps /home/mwilson/test
Password:
6

hello again opsec

dell $ mount | grep test
/mina/apps on /home/mwilson/test type cifs (rw,mand)
Works just fine.

hell-o

Root owns the mount-point, as you can see.

forgive any typos…it was my birthday today

ok, so..how do we setup sudoers to make it work correctly? and what is the perms on the mount.cifs cmd?

http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/sudo/
again.

dell $ ls -l /sbin/mount.cifs
0

how do i list out older versions of a package with yum, rather than just the latest

sorry again opspec, i scrolled up and seen it….

@� I always forget that sudo isn’t transparent, and you need to call sudo… err.

koji.fedoraproject.org/koji

sorry this was your question, didn’t mean to just take over
but this was something that i’ve always had problems with myself and I did it the suid way and it worked
just didnt’ get any answers as to the correct way to do it

Thats fine, we’re all here to learn. Besides, I have my answer now, so I’m happy.
kc8hfi
I tried the suid method, but that didn’t work for me.

Never open a door wide when a crack will do.
Never open a crack when handing someone a key will do.
Sudo is the key.

and never snoke crack
*smoke

I coudln’t get /usr to be over mounted by using mount.cifs with the suid bit set…so i figured it was ok….

Actually, were me, I’d create a wrapper, give them sudo access to the wrapper, and that’d be it.

i’m working right now on fixing it the correct way now, though
thanks

Being able to run mount is like handing them a loaded gun and a blindfold.

they need to be able to run mount though, for things like cd’s, and thumb drives
but i do agree, mount is dangerous

You could control the mount-point via the wrapper and let the user specify the share to be mounted.

hi!
question :]

Cd’s should be in fstab.

Let me ask a more broad question in regards to cifs mounts… When I’m in the gui, using konqueror, and browse to a samba share, eg: \\server\share it prompts for a username and password. I enter it, can see the files, but things like OpenOffice cannot open the files, I ASSUME because there
isn’t a valid path to them? Is there a way to fix that, or is the best way to have the user actually mount the share somewhere on the system?

oops, yep, they are

Thumb drives you can massage via udev to guarantee what device names they end up with and put THOSE in fstab.

if i help someone successfully, i’ll be surprised

In “a GUI”, you mean.

good question, i’d like to know the answer to that one myself

if you use konqueror, you’re using a kioslave, not an actual filesystem

Because it’s not mounted.

kioslaves are a KDE technology, so only KDE apps are aware of them

Ok, WindowMaker is a viable option as well, so I can’t refer to KDE as “the” gui I suppose.

i googled it, and see, to find the answer =[
im trying to install phpmyadmin, should i get the tar.gz or tar.bz2?

Kioslaves, or gnome-vfs... they're both disasters. They hide complexity by assuming the only applications you'll use are their respective toolboxes.

im on fedora core 6

doesn't matter. bz2 is smaller.

Either one, untar a tar.gz file with tar -xzf, a bz2 file with tar -xjf

thank you

What they *actually* do is increase confusion when joe cluebie can't figure out why he can't open "that file right there, in that folder", when he can see it on the desktop.

So no easy way around that, other than having the user mount the share somewhere onto the real filesystem?

ive never installed from a tar before, so thisll be my first time, imtrying to do it over ssh

do not install a tar in fedora

If it's gnome-vfs... even DnD doesn't work right.

dont?

no

Copy the file, copy it back.

which one do you recommend??

phpmyadmin is in the official fedora software repos as an rpm

Myself, I don't bother with the technology.

how do i go about installing that rpm?
from cli?

yes, one sec i'll get you the exact package name

anywhere that i can try to help?

I'm setting up a laptop for my wife, so I'm trying to make these things easy for her. I still use WindowMaker on a few machines - I just use a GUI to get high res shell sessions.

yum install phpMyAdmin

thanks opsec

Why in the world would you give Linux to your wife?

and in the future do not compile and install source in fedora

sephen is smart is why

You hate her that much?

this is a package managed system that you will break by doing that

Would you give yours windows?

DOWN WITH WINDOZE!

i know this may sound dumb, but when you say do not compile host and install source, what does that mean exactly?

Assuming I was foolish enough to have one... h*ll yes.

dont install from tars?

use yum whenever possible

oh okay
one more Q
how come locate doesnt seem to work

So by that admission, you are a machist, as you equate linux with pain.

im trying to l,ocate where it installed phpmyadmin

do not download tar, tar.gz, bz2, or other source archives and try to compile and install them
not in fedora

.rpm is your friend

locate uses an index that must be periodically rebuilt

locate isn't realtime. Its a database that is built by a cron job.

bad practice that will result in your system being broken eventually

awesome thanks for the tips

things you've added will not show up until the next re-index

how do i go about finding where phpmyadmin was installed?

updatedb

for finding the contents of a package, check out the rpm query commands
man rpm

rpm -ql phpMyAdmin

I'd argue that rpms are a bad practice that will result in a broken system eventually, but I'm refrain for the newbies' sakes.

that is a completely ignorant statement
you obviously have no knowledge of fedora or redhat systems

what does rpm -ql do?

Only for the fact that I mistyped I'll with I'm

read the man page

RPM's created by incompetents are, yes. Or RPM's *installed* by incompetents, who assume that anything with a .rpm extension is installable on whatever distribution they like, no matter what it was actually created for.

haha

any way to look at only the packages that were actually released to fedora yum?

well put mwilson

I've been using RH since 6.1. Slackware WAY before that. 'RPM hell' is a known term. So is 'dependency hell' Google will return lots of results with those two phrases.

yes, don't toy with your default repos
or go to an official mirror and view them with ff

Yes, "RPM hell" is created by incompetents.

or check koji for archived packages

oofta, the rpm manual is long

you don't know what you're talking about, please be quiet now.

awww how do i get out of the rpm man
ctrl _ x isnt doing it

q

now i feel noob =[

exit manpages with q

haha thanks op

'somelib.somepackage.so' exists ON my system, but RPM is too damn dumb to check for it, and the package its installing can't find that particular .so file in the RPM database, so it assumes it isn't there.

again, you're just making yourself look incredibly stupid
stop now.

It shouldn't.

now i hate to keep hitting you with these Q's, it seems it installed phpMyAdmin fine under /usr/share, but how do i access it via /www/ on apache?

read the httpd config it ships with
I assume Sephen refers to files rpm is not tracking

k

he's just installing random .rpms from wherever he feels like downloading them this week

exactly. Its not in the RPM database, therefore, even if it exists on the system, RPM isn't aware of it, and fails its dependency checks.

he then ends up with broken deps and it's "rpms fault"

The only way what he describes can happen is if either (a) his RPM database hosting is corrupt, (b) he's installing random RPM's not built for his distribution.

Sorry, but not every package I need is available through the official Fedora repos.

you are highly ignorant of rpm and how it works

how can it be rpm's fault if it isn't in the rpm database?

Its not RPMs fault, per se. There should be an option to check the local system for files that it depends on, rather than checking the RPM database.

Debian has the 'equivs' package for this purpose... I assume Fedora has something similar, though I have never looked.
No, there should not be.
Such would quickly become a nightmare, and dependencies would be impossible to enforce.

I already feel that way.

You're the one who broke the box... I have no sympathy.

i've used fedora since day one .. i've run it on lots of arch's and many many different hardware configs, i have never *ever* had a problem that wasn't solved within 5 min .. i build lots of rpms that don't ruin or messup anything
this tells me something important

hey

rpm deps plus arbitary external files? *shudder*

is there a default user/pass for mysql when installing fedora core 6?
or a way to test it somehow?

Amen.

is everyone here scared of gcc and the tarball?

see my howto here: http://fedorasolved.org/server-solutions/installing-configuring-mysql-server/

its not the scared part, it makes things more complicated sometimes than necessary

No, just of people who do $RANDOM_THING, rather than MANAGING their box.

there are some things that I will always use tarballs for, such as php, i don't like to use the rpms for php

Sephen, real men use RPM

I like the convenience of yum and RPM, but sometimes you have to work outside that narrow view of the system to get what you need.

mwilson gives a little more light to the room .. pay attention to him.
no, actually you don't
you *Choose* to

please tell us what pcakge is so hard to use as an rpm

you are too lazy or incompetent to make a package

a52dec
mpeg4ip
I can keep going with video transcoders. None of that stuff is in any official Fedora repo.

awesome, working perfect so far
just need to figure out phpmyadmin

mpeg is fraught with patent problems. use http://rpm.livna.org too

if a package is not compiled with an option you want .. you simply download the corresponding fedora.src.rpm and change the spec and rebuild it

livna doesn't contain all of those packages, so some need to be built from source.

installing source in a package managed system breaks deps, overwrites core files owned by other rpms and causes general chaos
NO
you can *ALWAYS* make an rpm .. always

it doesn't always do this though, if you're careful

even if there isn't one available anywhere.. if you have the source and a little knowledge .. you can do whatever you want

Doesn't Fedora have an equivalent of Debian's checkinstall?

Not quite always. But pretty damn close.

Why would I want to make an RPM that simply will install the files in the same place the Makefile will? Thats just extra effort.

i'm talking about bad patterns / habits

Because that's MANAGEMENT.

people get in habits of compiling .. no one explains things to them .. then we end up with people like Sephen
we're doing 2 things in this room

People get in the habit of using the compiler because of morons like Gentoo users.

we're teaching people how to use and properly manage fedora

i tried gentoo once

No, thats just a pain. I'm familiar enough with my machines to know which packages are installed that are out of the ordinary, and what may break if I build the next package from source. Gentoo and Slackware both seem to be handling tarball installations quite well, without all of the
fear.

and we're teaching people critical thinking skills and how to apply information to solve problems .. not create more

I give up.

LOL Gentoo and Slackware

i've read the instructions from fedorasolved about sudo, and i've put the mount.cifs perms back to the way they were, and i'm still getting a permission denied error

Which is why I said I'd refrain from comment on source, but it took off anyhow.

I know people are stupid, yet I let myself get frustrated by it.

awesome worked great
do you have a phpmyadmin config tutorial lol

let's start a therapy club

No, let's just stop propping them up.
grrr, nick completion

?

not yet, i'll get around to it.. for now my friend just showed up .. bbl
heh

happened two/three times now

here is my sudoers file, http://pastebin.com/m6dda414b

http://www.phpmyadmin.net/documentation/#setup_script is this what i have to do to finish setting up phpmyadmin, does anyone know?

I think I did it right, according to the docs on sudo from fedorasolved that opsec sent

Since you're ignoring PMs, here is what I was trying to send you:
my intention was not to steal the channel and start this diatribe. Fedora is an awesome platform to start from, and RPM is great for most users, especially newbies. However, I also feel that Fedora, Mandriva, and other RPM based distros are slowly erroding the skill sets necessary to really know
what is going on with your system. Eventually we'll end up just like Windows, and the average user won't know and won't care how his
computer works.

and here is the perm set on the mount.cifs cmd: rwxr-xr-x root root

So? The purpose of the computer is to run programs for a user, not for the user to maintain it.

you can't expect every person in the world to want every finite detail of their system .. that's just absurd

People with skills should maintain computers, not Joe Stupid. Binary packages, be it RPM, or DEB, or whatever, allow people with skills to maintain the computer without actually BEING the person maintaining the computer.

due to the fact that i'm tired and drunk, i'm going to bed
night all

Curious if you've built rpms yourself, because that takes just as much skill as building from source.

why aren't you a professional guitarist? and a pro surfer? and an electrical engineer?

(maybe even more)

I've torn apart source rpms, modified contents, and rebuilt them, but I have not created a .spec file from scratch before.

Distributions like Gentoo are what erode that, because Joe Stupid, with no skills and no training, is encouraged to think his opinions on how things work matter.

you think everyone in the world who wants a free os wants to also spend every waking hour understanding their system?

anyone using eog? does it open svgs for you?

It did last time I looked, not that I bother with eog. It's really a crap image viewer.

No, but I highly discourage the 'catering to the idiot' mentality that most of American businesses have towards their customers. Hell, in most US cities its illegal to even open the hood and fill the washer fluid in your car.

beryl is having an issues with svg, not being able to open them

yes, it does

hmm

hey how do I install Fedora 7 onto an external USB drive?
the installer doesn't detect it ...

what web hosting for online images library does eog use, say, to open svgs?
duryodhan, do you have legacy usb enabled in bios?

however, i don't beryl on a workstation, that's simply not helpful at all

You need to invoke expert mode.

meaning ?
tried that

ivazquez, are usb keyboards and such recognized before the OS?

did you get the mount.cifs stuff to work correctly using sudo??

setup loads the USB HID drivers.

err duryodhan

Are you claiming that eog can't open svg's, or that beryl can't? What would the one have to do with the other?

Yes. I simply allowed that user to use /bin/mount in sudo.

mwilson, neither can. i think it's related to whatever image library they are using

it is a laptop ... and if in bios I choose the boot menu, it gives me the choice of booting from the USb drive ,

You think they use the same image library because...?

ok so, how does a regular run the cmd to mount something??

mwilson, wow, this is a worthwhile argument
anyone familiar with what image library eog uses?

sudo mount //server/share /mnt/where-ever -o username=bla

mount /dev/sdx /place

duryodhan, no i wasn't referring to that. i wonder if there's some usb legacy mode in bios, but according to ivazquez that shouldn
t matter

hmm ok

i know that sounds stupid, but this thing has always ticked me off because I haven't been able to figure it out

What argument? You're making some unsubstantiated claim.

legacy usb is for keyboard support Arfdee

Perhaps you're right, perhaps you aren't, I asked for evidence. Either you have some, or you do not.

f_newton, only for keyboards?

has nothing to do with post start up usb drives
pretty much Arfdee

f_newton, ok

I am a pretty advanced linux user in Slackware .... I was thinking ... If I copy the kernel image and DVD image to the usb drive and install grub ... then maybe I can do something

I installed the driver as you said i see wlan0 option but i don't see any hardware saying bcm4310

duryodhan, i don't know if you want to do this or if it's the best way

an ubuntu live CD detects the USB HDD and even gives me choice of installing to it ...

There is no such thing as an "advanced" Slackware user.

you need to convert the image to a usable format first duryodhan but you already know that, right?

but i have successfully copied a linux installation from what drive to another
mwilson, you're just on fire tonight, aren't you?
gvm, try dmesg |grep bcm

I said Advanced linux user

duryodhan, i think you're wasting your time with him

lol.... that was humor Arfdee

objdump -x /usr/bin/eog - you'll get a list of shared objects it links against. Assuming its not statically compiled in, you should be able to pick out the recongizable library it is linked against

ok please just tell me how to install to USB HDD

duryodhan, i do know the original f7 iso had some issues, certainly the kernel did without some parameters, etc

intelligent people dont degenerate in to personal barbs to win arguments...

maybe also related to what you did

if you have a boot from usb option in your bios duryodhan it should boot from it

Sephen, you think it's gdk pixbuf?

what if he needs an initrd

once the os boots up it should be able to read your usb drive duryodhan

Here is my line from sudo: username ALL=/bin/mount, /bin/umount

unless, he uses initrd

? i don't understand what you are saying ...

yeah...

teh USB drive has nothing in it ...
I have a f7 DVD

it works now. I got it

I want to install fedora7 to the USB HDD

then, to mount: 'sudo mount //server/share /whereever'

duryodhan, you need your dvd to load to the usb drive? well our bios has to be able to point to it

having to put the options there threw me for a little bit until I figured that part out

it should ... but if I do fdisk -l it doesn't show any partitions at all

if it can f7 should recognize it. most of them apparently are

I have disconnected everything other than the USB HDD

you said yourself the drive is blank
have you partitioned it?

i see "Broadcom 4311 WLAN found" but the hardware is bcm4310 no

it should show the name of the drive / device

yes lsusb but again you have no os installed right?

maybe it won't show /dev/sdax , but it should atleast show that /dev/sda exists and the tables are wrong

gvm, is that all it says/?

Expert mode *should* do it. Get the FC6 rescue disc to see if expert mode with that can see it.

gvm, do dmesg |grep bcm43xx and paste to pastebin

shit .. how did I forget lsusb ...

ok

i do all the time and ive been doing this for many years.... all you kids know more then I do

I dont have FC6 ... but ubuntu latest sees the USB drive easily ...
I thought some kernel params might be able to fix this ...

duryodhan, its the kernel not the os but ...

I do appreciate the help with mounting and the explanation on kioslave and the likes. Too bad our discussion turned into a fanatical argument of those who like RPMs, and the infidels among us (the other Slackware user here, and those damn Gentoo people)... Isn't bigotry fun?

Sephen, did you get my reply, sir?

this is an rpm based os ... if you dont want an rpm based os ... leave

it's not bigogry

I know ... I am sying ... there is nothing wrong with the USB HDD as another kernel can recognise it

Just the rescue disc. That should be enough to test to see if it can see the drive.

duryodhan, if you absolutely cannot get it working and you are desperate to do so, as i said, i have successfully installed linux on one drive and moved it to another

well I had problems with f6 recognizing my sata but f7 did great

you just have to edit some files in /etc/ afterward

you have completely misunderstood and misconstrued my point

I don't know anything about eog, I was just trying to get you a list of the so files used by the binary, so you may be able to pick it out. sorry.

Just copy an existing install to the drive ?

http://pastebin.com/d19404c22

mv works greazt

we are here to teach the people who choose to use fedora how it works, good habits with the management of their systems, and how to think critically about problems and find innovative solutions
we are not here to rig up their systems or put band-aids on every mistake made

Sephen, thanks

I didn't misunderstand, I just don't agree, thats all. I fear the day we're all banned from opening the hoods on our computers. Things like that happen with apathy, and when Joe Idiot no longer cares about a right he has, it gets taken away that much easier.

duryodhan, im just saying if you are desperate, i've successfully done that

I am

Sephen, you just explained gw bush supporters

I intend to do that ...
just checking out what all to copy ...

duryodhan, e2label sets a label on a partition, like XP can do through gui

you miss the point of fedora and the entire FOSS movement

and making sure I dont miss anything

f_newton, politics? come on

yeah thats ok

Arfdee, I used the live dvd to install my os

Not to start another fight - I don't agree with the direction GW took, but I still wake up scared from nightmares that would have had Kerry in office.

I will just edit fstab to use /dev/sda3 or something instead of labels ..

no one is taking away anyones right to manage their fedora systems how they choose .. with rpm or anything else

duryodhan, yes
duryodhan, if you don't want to use labels

I am not here to talk politics I was only showing an example of your reasoning

hmm ok

but you'll need to reinstall grub but it's a bit more difficult
like as chroot and stuff

why ?

duryodhan, oh wait, does the same system have another linux installation?

no chroot , just do grub , the files will already be there in /boot of the new HDD, just do grub and root(hd1) , setup(hd1)

if you dont manage your fedora installation with rpm you are pushing your flat tired car through the mud.... with a lot of hard work you MAY get somewhere

no ...

so if I need php to be build with oci support, I would download the src rpm, modify the makefile and then rebuild it??

I will do it from the same place from where I am copying f7

you're right, no one is taking away rights with Fedora. Like I said, Fedora is great platform, especially for the newbie. I just don' think building from source should be so frowned upon. People need to learn, tinker, and explore with their systems. Its the only real way to learn.

duryodhan, well, if you want to use grub you';; have to reinstall it on the usb drive
duryodhan, i also suggest downloading and burning sysrescuecd to perform all of this

I think you can pass rpmbuild an argument to enable it.

fedora is a great platform for anyone .. seasoned sysadmins, newbies or anyone in between

yeah ... but I dont have to do grub-install as the all the stage 1 and stage 2 files etc. will be there from the cp -a I did earlier

but you can do it from rescue mode, really

it's all how you look at problems and solve them

just type "grub" , root (hd1) setup(hd1) ... where hd1 is my USB disk

hmm ok. I need a crapload of other stuff along with it, and i need some things disabled also....

oh, maybe, but i use grub-install
you'll need to a command with chroot and grub-install with --root-directory= specific

grub opens the bash like grub shell ...

most people are *very* illogical about their problem solving skills and very impatient if the answer isn't provided in a handy mcdonalds fashjon

mornin'

duryodhan, yeah, but i just felt grub-install was easier

I dont think so ... but lets see .. I might be wrong

you guys are just on the right topic atm

I dont use grub myself all this is based upon the time I did LFS
will try it all ...
see ya

with proper management, fedora stable releases are almost 100% problem free

and thanks

duryodhan, if you get it installed and copied
that's the main portion

do you happen to know of any docs on rebuilding an rpm??

Ah, McDonalds. I'm just happy IRC is still so much alive. Most of the Joe Idiots out there are clueless to what IRC is. They only know AOL chatrooms.

as i've said ..i've never had a fedora related problem that wasn't solved within 5 min

hmm, maybe i should join "linux" on AIM

Unfortunately that part of the guide hasn't been finished. But reading the rest of the doc should give you an idea of how it's done. Hang on...

janything to get me started, I can figure out the rest, thanks

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/BuildingPackagesGuide

thanks!!

it's not about how much you know in life .. it's about how to find what you need to know when you need to know it

now I can work on fixing this php, so some of my friends that work at redhat will get off my case from building it from source

I have an NTFS partition (WinXP) that I only get mounted on boot from fstab by passing /dev/sda1 through fstab instead of the disk label.. I find this kind-of 'unelegant' as everything else is done w/ disk labels there.. any way to mount NTFS on boot by the label?

Thanks again, its been interesting. I'm off to bed.
Later all.

linux on aim ... yeah do that Arfdee

another stupid question, before I go try for myself, I'll make a fool out of myself again and ask..
can yum install source rpms?

MS really outdid themselves with vista

yep

yumdownloader can

i was forced to use it while doing work in asia
and i can say as a person with a CS degree and many years of linux experience, i could not do simple tasks with vista

i hear ya arfdee!! I can't even do simple tasks in xp
i feel so naked and fragile if i'm trying to do work from an xp box, much less vista

well all I can say is if you need a manual to use windows ya better leave computers to people with IQs above 40

define 'simple tasks'

vzduch, i was trying to add computers to a "workgroup"

ssh to another box,

it is actually more difficult than XP

run a perl script

Arfdee, its the same in windows as it is in linux... networking is not a windows or a linux thing

in XP that's no problem, for Vista I don't know, never used it

vzduch, i know it's easy in XP

I use vista daily

pull up a terminal window

another thing would be adding computers to an AD domain

and I use fedora daily\

open the file manager

vzduch, the new start button menu is horrible

heh I found a FC6 DVD lying around ... and FC6 expert detects the USB HDD

duryodhan, i had that problem with some FC versions way back

duryodhan, then f7 should with no problem

the older version worked with raid easily, the new one did not

Log a bug against the kernel please.

can someone point me to a good RPM building howto for Fedora please?

vzduch, what rpm are you trying to compile?
you could just use checkinstall

if you google what you just said vzduch you will discover what you want

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/BuildingPackagesGuide

I could, but I want to make it better distributable if someone is interested in it.. I want to build xmms-crossfade for Audacious.. there is a FC6 package in some 3rd-party repo but that won't work in F7

it didn't...
could you do it ... I am not a Fedora user
you must already have a bugzilla/whatever account ...
oops ivazquez

vzduch, checkinstall can generate an rpm

in *buntu I built all of Audacious myself because it doesn't have current packages

RH BZ accounts are free and easy.

shouldn't really use checkinstall to create rpms if you will be distributing them ...

that was my thought

how come?

checkinstall is for removing stuff easily which you installed using source
It rarely works correctly across the board ... ymmv

duryodhan, i think building an rpm is pretty similar, they both use the system libraries

I dont know about fedora ... but there must be a proper way to install ...
nd create a package
probably ./configure --prefixy=/tmp/packagename/
and then tar it up

that's bizarre, uninstalling and reinstalling gtk2 and gtk2-engines fixed the problem with svgs
vzduch, or you could just make your own spec file

I am saying .. by my experience ... packages created with checkinstall rarely work across many configs etc.

k

creating rpms for fedora is easy following the guide that pasted ivazquez

heheheh eheheh ... rofl ...
the way to get f7 working with external USB HDD is ... plug in a USB pendrive as well as the HDD ...
only then will f7 load usb-storage-driver etc. modules

Okay, log an anaconda bug then.

that actually makes sense to me duryodhan

if you don't plug in a pendrive then neither fc6 or f7 recognise the USB HDD
how ?

It doesn't to me.

I think it just shows that f7 devels tested with pen drives and not with USb HDDs

because I had initial problems with my usb memory stick the first time until I plugged it in after install. since that time it worked perfectly

how is that related to this?

the recognition of a periphrial for which all usb devices are
it could be a udev problem

ok, now I have something to read for today any idea on mounting NTFS on boot?

The installer doesn't use udev.
FS

?

then what ? hotplug ?
just put it in your /etc/fstab

/topic
anaconda

original question was:

hmm what ? the kernel detects stuff right ?

in XP that's no problem, for Vista I don't know, never used it
I have an NTFS partition (WinXP) that I only get mounted on boot from fstab by passing /dev/sda1 through fstab instead of the disk label.. I find this kind-of 'unelegant' as everything else is done w/ disk labels there.. any way to mount NTFS on boot by the label?

maybe that partition doesn't have a label

I don't think ntfs-3g can do labels.

(please ignore the 'in XP' line, wrong buffer )
it has

use uuid .. much more elegant

I know, I had *buntu *gg*
as it occurs.. how do I setup my mail client to read the system messages from /var/spool/mail/?

First, send mail destined for root to another user by editing /etc/aliases.

you need to have sendmail or something working ... then just give it localhost as server
or what ivazquez is saying
he is probably better ..

hey guys, anyone get yum-versionlock to work? it seems to just ignore the files i put in the lit
*list

you need to stick a full package nvra in there

ah gotcha, thanks

how do I forward already existing messages in /var/spool/mail/root to my user's mailspool?

Use formail to shove them back through sendmail.
Or is it getmail...

there is no getmail
do you have a hint on the syntax of formail?
formail --help is a bit confusing

see if there is a man page?

It's not formail. There is an app that will take an mbox and stuff it into SMTP, but I can't remember what it's called...

fetchmail? I have that

fetchmail only does net-to-net.

EvilBob, you're up late

Just got home from taking part in a ham radio contest

I see

trust me, you've missed nothing here.

I know, I was watching while I was away

and daMaestro too?

How was the Latte?

a late crowd this evening

EvilBob, awesome
the cafe i went to was on the route of a HUGE bike ride
it was great.
they shut down major arteries of denver for it
http://www.moonlight-classic.com/

do they have routes for regular sized bikes daMaestro ?

well, yes; denver has very nice bike routes

too hilly for me

I tried riding a HUGE bike one time, the giant was more in my price range
I tried riding a HUGE bike one time, the giant was more in my price range

lol

yea yeah

hehehe

there actually was a lot of custom cycles
couple of people had custom frames ... basically two bikes on top of eachother
so they were at least 7 foot up

was this a bicycle or motorcycle thing?

bicycle

kewl

there had to be at least a thousand people

I dont doubt it

and i, of course, was on my bicycle.. so i rode along for a while (on my way back home)
it was nice to have police escort through downtown denver

lol the only police escorts I get take me to jail

no fun at all
well its almost time to get up so i think Im gonna try to get a little sleep

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2007/06/world_naked_bike_ride_denver.php

get out

/var/spool/mail/dielucht'.. why do I have to find that in a Romanian forum? o0

There can be synchronization issues if you do it that way. And did you remember to fix the perms?
And restart the POP/IMAP daemon?

ok, sorry

i was driving by a local park the other day and there were like 25 naked people jogging

the destination mbox already existed, only it was 0 byte.. so there shouldn't be a problem w/ permissions

anyone know how much a sun ultrasparc t2 goes for?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek *rofl*

I'm running a java that is using dollar instead of pound sign. It says the currency is set from sys default but this is pound (english -GB) any idea how to set the java default currency?

#java

okay - but I thought they might ignore fedora/gcj questions
but I'll give them a try

can anyone make sense as to why my Patriot 2GB memory stick isnt working? it works on windows and mac but not my FC7 box... here is dmesg http://rafb.net/p/ODEnAu69.html

Windows on the same machine?

yeah

Does the system work with other memory instead?

i havent tried other usb drives but this one

Oh, it's a USB key, not a memory module.

my laptop has an internal bluetooth module, how do i find out it's model #?

Anyways, sounds like a problem with the USB key.
What does lsusb say?

it works on many other puters...

Okay, then log a bug against the kernel.

ivazquez, thanks, i didn't' see it in /proc/bus/usb/devices

lsusb just hangs

Like I said, log a bug.

brb

ivazquez, you there?
can i tell from linux what my memory configuration is like, as far as spare slot, etc on this laptop?

Arfdee, yes you can

pembo13, how?

Arfdee, it's part of the info given by the dmidecode command

pembo13, dimma and dimmb have 512?

Arfdee, you're asking me what memory you have in your computer?

how do i log a bug for the kernel?

stealth_vader, bugzilla.redhat.org

im saying that's what it says, it says dimma and dimmb 512, so that means i guess what i think it means

stealth_vader, bugzilla.redhat.com
Arfdee, ah.. yes.. it's pretty plain

hmm

dmidecode is lying

what about?

my installed RAM size - it tells me I have a 1024 MB DIMM, and I definitely know I don't.. and it indicates on-board ethernet and sound as enabled, which I definitely don't have either

and what does `free -m` say?

total used free shared host buffers cached
756 726 30 0 113 336
-/+ buffers/cache: 276 480
1537 0 1537

so what's your actual setup?

2x SDRAM, 1 512 MB, 1 256 MB

interesting

mainboard Abit KT7

guess you should file a bug about that

dmidecode says I have 1 1024 MB and 1 512 MB.. so either it takes the 256 MB for a 1024 MB or it doubles the size of both modules

understood

when I hook my camera up to my pc, it should show up as a usb drive, but instead i get an error in konqueror "Could not read file /." ... how do I fix this ?

I don't find any contact info or bugzilla for dmidecode

there's is (should be) a package called dmidecode

dmidecode info doesn't always reflect actual hardware (check the man page)

against which you can file a bug
what is the exact error you get from konqueror?

nvm, I found it

cool

wow
cool
anyone else use frostwire?

I did until recently, but installed gtk-gnutella lately

orly

Orly is Paris International Airport

can anyone help me with my camera problem ? some kind of rights issue apparently ?

perhaps if you explain what the problem is?

i did a few lines up

hello all

hello ;p

how are you?
still on fc6?

i'm fine thx for asking..using F7 now

ok
how's f7?

gr8!

good
so you're here to help noobs

what pdf reader that is available for fedora?

evince

can it also read .chm files?

use chmsee

no. It's a pdf reader, remember ?

hehe sori Anvil

u must be kidding , i'm noobs here
Anvil

anisfarhana

Adhamdullilah

yep , thanks god

noob here also anisfarhana

i'm noob since fc1 , using fedora about 4-5 yrs ago...and im still noob

hehe, your not a noob anymore. anisfarhana

depends on Anvil then , i know him 4-5 yrs ago here..he always seem to 'attack' me

use xchm or gnome-chm for .chm viewing

thanks openbysource

brb

np.

by the gods.. almost 5 years already..

FC1 was plain ugly, in FC3 KDE was only half functional.. so I didn't bother myself w/ Fedora again until a few days before F7 came out..
I had to repartition my drive due to hardware defects and didn't want to go through the hassle of installing openSUSE again, so I figured I could have a look at FC6.. which was quite a pleasure to use, even w/ Gnome

how do i hide my IP?

hello to all

why would you want to do that?

i think its cool

then think again

who can I andresand wich program is connecting to core.gtalk2voip.com and using port 8002 & 8006?

something like this EarthVoid is n=void@wala/dito

I am not using ekiga.

ah, you mean in IRC..
[K]aveh: what’s ‘andresand’?

vzduch, underestand. my english is not good
vzduch, understand

Hello, this is probably quite silly. Running Revisor for a install DVD respin, using both CLI or GUI modes – everything runs smoothly until operation is complete. However, by that time i cannot find the ISO images!? default dir is mentioned as /srv/revisor but there appears to be almost
nothing there. Also searched EVERYWHERE on filesystem – in /var/tmp all yum packages which were downloaded are, along with other data. So where is the
install disk iso?? (thanks for answering)

ah, you mean in IRC..: yes i mean here in irc

try searching the Freenode homepage for information on that topic (vhost, virtual host)

thanks

n=void@wala/dito

what is this line for? ACCEPT udp — 0.0.0.0/0 224.0.0.251 udp dpt:5353 it’s in default iptables f7

http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml
http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup

what is removeservice on a Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 3 server?
iits eating my cpus

stop

thanks

chkconfig fooservice off
in combination with what guzu said

but i dont want to break something if its needed