hi, anyone active?

NO!

nope, pretty damn lazy today

someobeN

I’m procrastinating at the moment

I think I need more sleep

.o/ may I have chocolate milk?

were you the one with the RDNS issue the other day?

nope

gym ?

anyone here ever tried to compile rtorrent/libtorrent? get som g++ related errors on configure

aptitude install rtorrent

rtorrent FTW

too old

I want chocolate milk!!!!1 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7153152098207965240

ya that exercise crap

backport it?

hm?

!backports

from memory, backports is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about simple sid
backport

or is the one in unstable not up to the duty?

my bike is strapped ot my car .. now i just have to remember to leave work at a decent time

the unstable rtorrent/libtorrent10 is in par with upstream.

leaving work at a decent time is somethign i dont have to worry about

For some reason Openbox and my GDM login window have the display resolution set to 1440xXXXX, though in xorg.conf I have the max res set to 1440×900.

oh, I see what you mean.. but need cvs to do my stuff..

you’re gov’t!

Anyone have any ideas?

indeed

which resoltuions are listed ?

hello, i am following http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook and it says that there is no package named refit…

1440×900, 1280×1024, 1280×800, 1024×768, 800×600, 600×480

someone use iptables analyzer logs?

v_v

command not found” when trying to compile host something?

that sounds rather misterious
guess what that means…

Braindead, LoL

im not missing g++ or gcc..

thaylok, sure

lol, I have checked..

how do i get the refit shell…
?

thaylok, check again

g++ 4.1

How do I exorcize evolution from my machine?

Does anyone have any idea at all?

aptitude install bible-kjv

hehe

how do i configure default apps to open certains files?

eeeessss teeeeee oooooooooooooh en ee dee
SamuraiDio default apps for what to open what files?

it’s required by gnome, so not really possible without modifying the dependencies and likely the maintainers have the dependency for a reason

file… you need to specify both

dkr, its a horrible, horrible email client

does ANYONE here know ANYTHING about display resolutions?

it would be nice to not have seemingly extra crap running like evolution-data-server though, wouldn’t it?
I don’t use it either. icedove++

yeah, that too
coir, sup?
Whats wrong?

hi

For some reason my GDM login window and all desktop environments default their resolution to something higher than 1440×900, and 1440×900 is the largest resolution I have listed in xorg.conf ; any idea why?

The latest one is really rather good at detecting issues
Odd.

So, I have “hidden” screen space.

rahul, i want to certains files (PHP Scripts, text files, images, etc) be opened by specifiq apps when cliqued in my file browser (actually i use three file browsers, Thunar, Konqueror, and Efm)

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

I did that.

that has never failed me
are you *sure* your monitor hits 1440×900?

For some reason GDM actually detects a resolution larger than 1440×900

what kind of monitor?
(model/make?)

Yes, I can set it to 1440×900 and it works fine, but the login window defaults to a larger resolution.

coir, wiiiierd
gdm?

Yes.

I reitterate
WIIIIIIERD
sorry, I can’t help

Is there something to reconfigure in GDM possibly?

not the slightest idea why you’ve got that SNAFU
GDM should be listening to CX.
*X

i’m trying to install debian on a external hard disk, but i’m wondering if the speed would be as good as a real hard disk considering all the data is coming through a USB port? have any of you ever tried such thing or seen it?

How would I change my default dm to kdm?

anyone have an account at Pinka? (http://pinka.bruceblacklaws.net) ?

It should work fine.
How fast is the HDD?

dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?

i’m not really sure, it’s a 80GB SATA2 HDD

coir, aptitude install xdm is a possibility

What is good about xdm?

is it USB 2.0?

yeah

as coir said, it would work fine, but it will be noticably slower than SATA

coir, nothing

I would hope to god it would be USB 2.0.
o_o

its just a login manager.

it will be marginally slower, unless you’ve got a junky USB 2.0 adapter in which case it’ll be much slower

I’ve heard of people running OS X from their iPods before.

sure, doesn’t mean the disk I/O is fast though

yeah, ipods can be used as rescue disks

how can i find out, which package includes hwclock? the package is installed on the machine.

versuchsanstalt with apt-file

dpkg -S /sbin/hwclock

i forgot the -S option, thank you.
thank you too, Xanthor|aw

thank you all

Why libssp0 is not in debian?
Any help ?

anyone know if there is a way to know if debian is planing to add compiz-fusion to unstable or so ?

!tell mashuuk -about search

simonrvn, nothing

I’m not sure that would answer _why_ it’s not available, though it would certainly show _if_ it was

simonrvn, while emdebian depends on it

!fglrx

7.1 . Downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1 for the time being if you are on testing/unstable

I found this, doesn’t say much really: http://packages.qa.debian.org/libs/libssp/news/20070103T060703Z.html

!fglrx one-liner

/etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Contrib and non-free sources needed. ask me about non-free sources

those command work in /msg too
hint hint

meeeh

boys i have a problem with all applications of kde because not sound on gnome
what is it the problem
?

what?

d’oh!
The problem persists.

coir, hm?
D:

for some reason
1440×1024 is listed as an available screen resolution in KDE/GNOME
But it’s not anywhere in xorg.conf

help

cybertop, you have sound with others wm ?

wm?

window manager

amarok not sound but rhythomd sound

what does the X log say

kaffeine not sound

ok
rhythomd is for midi apps, no ?

hi i am trying to remove the default debian kernel all of it and out of the dpkg list
how would i do this ?

rhythomod play mp3

oh, ok

apt-get remove linux-image-version

do i need to purge or no ?

apt-get install linux-image-new_version

you can get the version from dpkg -l linux-image*

what does it mean when un is next to it ?

it means that the package was uninstalled

how can i remove it out of that list for good ?

When emdebian will be updated for unstable ?
any help ?

what is embedium ?
jus curious

debian for small devices

emdebian

i see

its outdated
I cant install gcc-4.1-powerpc

If you need a decent set off cross compilers – these are good – http://debian.speedblue.org/

i dunno how to get it off the list for good. staying there it is of no harm as far as i know

h3sp4wn, I’ll check

(and speedblue@debian.org is a debian developer)

help me pleace….

i know but im trying ot make a clean list

h3sp4wn, looks good

just ignore it

h3sp4wn, ok thx a lot

If a package is listed as “un”, that means dpkg doesn’t know about it, but it is listed in a dependency somewhere

i thought it meant it was listed in the status file ?

Where do I get autoreconf?

Anyone know how I list the content of a tar file? tar -t file.tar.gz doesn’t seem to work. Any idea?

I installed cupsys on my debian server, but how can I configure my printer on a headless debian install?
I also want to have the cups server running

I was following this http://www.opsat.net/user/bob/compiz-fusion-without-ubuntu#hi-there.-1

that might be possible too, but on my system it seems most of the “un” packages don’t exist in the status file

bulio|, cups has a webterface

how do I access it?
localhost:631 isnt working

yourserver’sip:631…
you can’t do localhost when its not the same machine

I know
I did 10.1.1.3:631
cant be found

hmm
ssh to it
nmap localhost -p600-700
that’ll show what ports are running what in the range 600-700
if its only running to 127.0.0.1, that’ll tell you

port 631 open

!xgl

rumour has it, xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running. Ask me about “compiz” and
“xgl-howto”, or see see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl

\amethyst: ah thanks

bulio|, that means the tomcat server hosting is only running to itself
look about in the conf’s to set it to allow external fiddling

ok
where would they be?

Not a facking clue
somewhere /etc most likely
!xgl-howto

i guess xgl-howto is xgl may or may not work on your system. Currently supports nVidia/ATI. http://battlehorse.homelinux.net/w/Wiki.jsp?page=Xgl

man cupsd.conf

that URL is broken
!xgl one-liner
D:

s/(.*)\d+/$1|xx|/; #returns “blah9blah999|xx|”. How would you get blah9blah|xx|? In other words, how would you match the last numbers of a string?

now I’m getting 403 forbidden

$_ = “blah9blah9999″;

can you put your cupsd.conf in a pastebin?

kryten.alternet.us/~paste
thats a simple one

s/(.*)(\d+)$/$1|$2|/

\amethyst, on a noisy line there?

\amethyst: http//rafb.net/p/P7BvFM83.html
whoops
http://rafb.net/p/P7BvFM83.html

your problem is that the .* is greedy

I know about that greedy stuff I tried .*? many places.

anyone know where I can get a live CD of something like a web appliance sort of thing? You know, like, just a browser that steals X all to itself.

you want [^0-9]*\d+

I need to fix up a thin client

there are a ton on the vmware site, if you care to extract one and/or use vmware

can anyone see from this(http://pastebin.ca/674301) or think of any reason why im getting connection reset by peer on my xbox(192.168.2.103) when i try to watch tv-links videos? videos work fine on this pc and i do get internet on my xbox.

I can do vmware
linky?

jmalicki is right, you need something to keep the .* from matching all but the last digit

http://www.vmware.com/appliances/
a few are commercial, but the majority are just free ones people put together
debian/ubuntu/gentoo/whatever

it would be nice if they were signed by their organizations

s/(.*)(?!\d)(\d+)/$1 |$2|/
err, without that space

woah

man, Q-Bert is pissed

well, they’re mostly just utilities done by users, though I totally agree an official appliance would be cool

at some stage it is sort of a trust thing, like i could throw up a new ubuntu as a virus delivery vehicle quite easily

yup

\amethystI don’t know how you did it yet, but that seems to work.
\amethystIf it works then thanks. n_n

plus it requires vmware, which is pretty un-debian

(.*) means any string, capture as $1. (\d+) is a sequence of one or more numbers, capture as $2

though you can technically convert a vmware appliance to qemu or xen really easily

the tricky part is (?!\d), which means “only match if the last character was *NOT* a \d”

\amethyst: Yep I know. What’s this ?! thing? is it similar to ?:?

\amethyst: that syntax screams perl users, i hate it

Is there a name for it I can search in man perlre?

how can i install aclocal ?

It’s a “zero-width negative look-behind assertion”. Look in man perlre

I’ve been building an ubuntu-based appliance for a product we’re developing. I must say, it’s a really nice way to hand out demos of software, particularly if the software is complicated to set up or use

hey, i tried moving the entries in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow to the new machine. now when the user logs in, they get a “I have no name!@debian” prompt. What did I miss? thanks

\amethyst: why don’t people just use ([^0-9]*)\d+?

because that’ won’t match a2ps33
or rather, it won’t make it a2ps|33|

\amethyst: point

since it’s all preconfigured, it dramatically lowers the entry point for potential users

hello, I’ve installed NTP and want to use Europe/London. But when I type ‘date’, it shows the UTC. And in X, the timezone looks like UTC. What can I do to use BST (Europe/London) system-wide? I used tzselect but it didn’t make any effect.

/(.*\D)(\d+)/ might be better than the ?! thing actually

Queued mail for delivery

nvm

!setthetime
!set the time

To set the time in debian, use date –set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch) and make sure you have the right UTC setting in
/etc/default/rcS first.

basically, im looking for a nice howto on moving user accounts over, with their password to a new linux machine!

since it won’t match a raw number

thanks

explody, do you know if I can find a live CD that is basicly a browser?

prolly not the right channel, but does anyone know how I can set the default wlan interface for NetworkManager?

telnet ip 25 .. what answers ?

Nothing else, just a fullscreen browser?

will sid always be unstable?

yes

shad0w1e, yep

I’m not aware of one, but you should be able to build one super-easy

hah, because in the movie he’s unstable?

sid is unstable by definition

thats funny

Reading someones log files.

explody, please tell me how d:

not my machine.

the only big repository of things like that I know of the that vmware site

yeah sid always blows up toys lol

one sec, there is a debian livecd project

postfix and exim both look somewhat similar

I tried looking there

live cd kiosk on google, perhaps …

http://wiki.debian.org/LiveCD

well .. parts of it anyways

I could make the live CD, but how do you make a browser eat X?

ask them to do it

perhaps as in STFW of course

I’d go searching after “kiosk” like BD said

OK

yep, the keyword in this case is “kiosk mode”

oooh, found it
LinuxKiosk

\o/ yay

dpkg-reconfigure tz-data did it for me!!

you’re so smart .. may i bear your children ?
s/bear/beer/

updating the timezone), abrotman

powell’s here in portland uses some linux for all it’s terminals in the store

Now, to work out how to hide any way to go to a URL and hard-code it to hit up one server

(powell’s is the largest independant bookstore in the US, and I mean HUGE, make B&N look like a newspaper stand)

artificial insemination only. no involvement in the donation either

independent*

thanks all, bye

local web proxy on the livecd?

Hmm, thats a good idea.
how’d I stop them fiddling firefox into using another way of getting to the net
I could easilly lock squid down

ahem…a cost /etc/hosts file?
a CUSTOM

yeah, I was thinking that
would “a.b.c.d *” be valid?

!enter

The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ‘,’, ‘. ‘, ‘;’, ‘…’, ‘—’, or ‘:’ instead.

Don’t recommend ellipses. Those are for omitting stuff, not separating thoughts.

are you sure .. ?

heh

don’t look at me .. i use two not three periods ..

what do you call them? elipses?

Is there a module for iptables so that i can block certain ports for certain users ?

abroturds

lol

for certain users ?

anyone have any idea why this cupsd.conf would deny me access from seeing the web interface of cups from another machine inside the LAN?
http://rafb.net/p/P7BvFM83.html

they’re also used to indicate pauses in speech

yes, but i tonly works in output chain (i.e. locally generated packets)

ellipses that is

\amethyst: and abroturds ?

\amethyst: only by people misusing them

technically .. he’s right

section denies everything by default

What do you recommend for representing pauses in transcriptions of speech?

Hi

how do I enable lan connections?

sections above that are only Allow-ing localhost

yeah, i can understand that chains like forward don’t work

I am using etch, what will I benift from upgrading to unstable\testing?

but INPUT should work…

\amethyst: dpkg gave a whole list.

how can I see list of user account on the system?

how do I enable lan connections?

possibly broken stuff and bleeding edge software

oh wait

you need to read the cupsd.conf manpage

no, input can’t work
and what’s the name of that module ?

right, it’s have to accept it to deliver it to user level process before it knew what proc it was goign to, heh
owner

thanks

meh I’ll stick with my etch

unless you have a need for dire needs of some software versions that are there in those versions you shouldn’t really move to it. on the other hand using it will help you to test stuff and file bug reports so it will be good for debian

there is more information on http://www.cups.org/ than I could ever tell you

which is an Apple product now. blech

I think dpkg knows the answer to this. When I get this error “Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?” and I did ssh -X and x11 port forwarding is enabled on the other end, is that a problem on the remote host (the one I sshed into) or the local host (x server)?

!magic cookie
!mit magic cookie

hmm… mit-magic-cookie is ’su user_running_x -c “xauth extract – $DISPLAY” | xauth merge -’ or “export XAUTHORITY=/home/USER_RUNNING_X/.Xauthority” (either (but not both) will let you run programs under X as root, when X was started by non-root), but xhost +localhost is damned insecure. Setting
export XAUTHORITY=/home/$USER/.Xauthority in /etc/profile makes it automatic. ‘zless /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz’. Also, see sshx

may I have a magic cookie with my milk ?

what does configure $argument do in scripting?

except this is as a normal used
*user
probably runs the configure command with the parameter $argument

what language?

if that line is in a bash script, anyway

bash

let me guess, that line is not working?

actually i havent tested it.

it should probable be ./configure

it searches for configure in $PATH, which usually does not (and should not) contain .
so what exobyte said

im modifying a script to my liking.
i see…
FAIRNAT_CONFIG=”/etc/ppp/fairnat.config”
oops
if [ "$CONFIG_CALLED" == "0" ]; \ then \ configure $FAIRNAT_CONFIG

why

in other words….. configure /etc/ppp/fairnat.config ? plain text file

why

== works in bash? (I’m rusty)

why

i got no idea, i had myself asking… before i even complete this part… i thought i should ask first..

why

I’m trying to put together a script to install a package non-interactively on a remote system (no, I can’t just ssh into it – I want to do it on a bunch of systems). No matter what I try, apt shows a warning on the console that I have to acknowledge (about moving paths, which I take care of
already.) My command line is: apt-get install libphp-adodb -y -qq –force-yes
can I be any more forceful in not requiring interactivity?

why

new to shell scripting?

more or less yes

why

this fella mocking me..

== is a string equal

poor biatche

yeah thanks, i figured that.. heh

why

you use the name biatche and are concerned about being mocked?

try http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/

Hi, whenever you have windows that stick to each other, or stick to the edge of the screen, what is this behavior called?
edge sticking or edge attraction or such?

well whatever…. i don’t see the big deal in my name, this name is almost 10 years old

!confuse dserban

Yes, what is your snake tomorrow, dserban? lederhosen of the republic of belarus with extra herring

why

winamp calls it docking

!ops lockin do /lastlog why

Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: quintin complains about: lockin do /lastlog why

poor dpkg

maybe DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive to keep debconf from prompting

dpkg is boring

!confuse lockin

No, them was your mushroom tomorrow, lockin? shirts of the democracy of liechtenstein with extra herring

amethyst is a stone

exobyte, I need to file a bug report for opera. For some reason, it decides to stick to the edges of screen, when it should leave this up to the currently running window manager!

not a human being
you spell quintin with e
you write quentin
quentin can’t even spell his own name

The latin spelling is Quintin. It means ‘the fifth son’. And there is no ‘proper’ way to spell names, really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Quintin

you’re wrong
do you admit you’re wrong?

wait, why am I feeding trolls?
I’m supposed to be a stone

how can I know if a binary its a x86 build, amd64 or another arch?

kenjy, /usr/bin/file ??

poor quintin

!ops lockin is trolling

Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: wintix complains about: lockin is trolling

he can’t even spell his own name

oks

kenjy, qmr@aperio:~$ file /usr/bin/file
/usr/bin/file: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped

do you admit you’re wrong, quentin?

tnks Quintin

do you admit you’re wrong

wth?

do you admit to being a troll?

quentin can’t even spell his own name

“do you admit you’re wrong”? who the heck cares how someone spells their nickname?

I do

totally OT

!kick lockin

you can’t spell “locking”

shaddap

i’m done now. *plonk*

isn’t filius latin for son?

quentin can’t even spell his own name
he has to go back to school

(sad news of the day, I knew that from memory)

maybe he was a bit inattentive

Neither can Ian, he spelled Debbie as Debian… what an idiot… now stfu!

can someone help me with iptables?

so he has to learn spelling

exobyte, yes, filius is latin for son. dunno how that’s appropriate. :p

!tell cheeseboy about ask

are you eating cheese?

no im all out

why not?

dude, take it easy. it’s called turning the tables

!ops lockin ban4lifeplz

Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: quintin complains about: lockin ban4lifeplz

heh

why do you call yourself cheeseboy when you don’t eat cheese

thank you

guideline number 1 when dealing with people like this: keep your sense of humour

yay.

if that doesn’t work, /ignore

thanks dude. and hello

Danke

Quintin, does dpkg remember the hosts for those banned ppl? I think that I saw an acquaintance in there, lol

how do i extract this file:
gtk-gnutella-snapshot.tar.bz2

I’m just not sure how you get fifth son out for quintin. the 5 I get (ordinals), but uhh

simonrvn, hey

hi snowbird

I get how lucifer means light bringer; that’s easy

yeah I should know better, though I’ve been eating waaaay to many espresso beans today… Can I use that as an excuse?

exobyte, “Know what you get when you cross an elephant and a rhino?”

just hooking up printer

hehe, those choco covered ones?

exobyte, “I don’t have a damn clue.”

yep, I’m on bag #2 Everything’s gently buzzing around me

Quintin, a babby if they breed

how do I set a cups username and password?
it keeps asking me to enter one to add a printer

careful dude. that’s a *lot* of caffeine

it’s usually root’s account

ok

Yeah, I’ve been washing them down with coffee ….. bzzzzzzzzzz

heheh

caffeine hm i drink 12 cokes a day buzz

Hi. Any unstable channel to ask or is it all the same here?

and three potts coffee

here’s good
I’ve been pushing my Staples “That was Easy” button over and over and over again…

ARe you talking about chocolate covered espresso beans? I had some of those in a client’s office recently. interesting stuff

It’s keeping me entertained, and coding…

how do I tell sendmail to flush its queue?

“Hesiod looks up keys using the standard Domain Name System. Enter the right-hand side of the domain name to do searches in. This name should begin with a “.”.” What’s that supposed to mean, any idea?

sendmail -q seems to be it, doesn’t seem to do anything though…oh well

hey folks, i need some help recovering data from a corrupt folder if at all possible. I know that entails using fsck but I havent had to use it so far and i’ve heard a good amount of stigma regarding its use.

what’s your domain?

s/folder/directory/ _ _

dserban, I have no idea what’s that all about =S

just hit enter

hi all

hi anto__

anyone familiar with modules-update?

nup

hi
oh ok

run fsck
it’ll recover what it finds to the lost+found directory in /

People, I am here to report about my problem with icedove, that I have posted earlier. The inbox was empty, removing the *.msf didn’t help, but the Inbox file was still full of messages and visible using mutt -R -f . I found the cause. The user had shift+deleted the files, and tried to blame
the new system. We had recently replaced windows 2000 by diskless station booting Debian by pxe. She would had made my job lot easier if she were honest. Lusers ar

Hi! How may I send packages to a certain MAC-address (that is part of a external wireless network). Is it even possible?

then feel free to browse the files, use the file command to see what it is/was

By the way thanks for your help, specialy to cast

i run modules-update but errors out saying /etc/modprobe.devfs has not been automatically generated
how can i fix this?

actually, just run this command “touch /forcefsck” and upon reboot it’ll force it to check your fs’s. I don’t know what else to tell you regarding fsck.

thx, I’ll give it a whirl.

I am trying to use texdoc(tk) to find documentation for latex on mathematics. I can use locate to find the files I want but the PATH for the documentation is wrong and thus texdoc fails to find the documentation that is installed. What variable do I need to set/change to make texdoc find my
documentation?

someone could help me i cannot log anything with my perl script to mysql..i do not gt any error and seem work very fine yesterday maybe i have unistall some package required

dserban, and other; if interested with answer-like to my previous question, go visit: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321530
dserban, tx anyway

\amethyst, thanks for the debian_frontend suggestion, however that does not work either

hi guys, my iptables do not log anymore in the /var/log/iptables.log.. someone could help me to fix it

how do you know that someone can?

88363948

what is it? a number of seconds and you want days, hours, minutes?

ya
dkr ya

man date
!qotd0

BIG FUCKING HUGE MISTAKE telling me you have gcc 4.0 and that you can’t fucking read the FAQ.

does the indexed search allow to search in tt_news as well?

greycat must be a nice person

how can i see what version of debian am i using?

cat /etc/debian_version

how do you start in single user mode?

but “just knowing” makes more sense
add “single” to the kernel option line at boot time, or in /boot/grub/menu.lst

4.0

add “single” to kernel boot arguments

is there some known problem with gnome-vfs in sid? i get crashes whenever i an application displays the file selector, since updating before

that’s what? woody?

etch

i want to add more sites to my apt-get
to expand the package search

why?

which file should i edit?

edit /etc/apt/sources.list

you’re going to screw up your box again

again?

what do you mean, again?

how do I change the documentroot of apache in debian?

/etc/apache2/sites-available/default

bulio|, look at the configuration files in /etc/apache(|2)

which one is it?

dkr, how?

depends on which apache you have installed

2

/etc/apache == apache 1.3.x /etc/apache2 == apache 2.x

actually. the default grub menu in debian should include an entry for single. yuo likely just need to hit yur downa rrow to choose that line from the grub menu when you boot up

is there by any chance a command line / curses program that can read .doc files?

strings

strings?

that was a joke

when you ask for a command and you don’t know the one you are given, your next step should probably be “man command”

hi, my iptables do not log anymore in the /var/log/iptables.log someone could help me

not entirely

does this look like a time/date code: T1188363150

well I thought it was funny

No, I don’t have grub

yeah i know… just ’strings’ sounds like an unusual name for a program

This isn’t debian, its just I’m asking here

you’re using lilo?

I just have “boot:”

ah, that’s much easier, that is a unix epoch: perl -wle’print scalar localtime 1188363150′
0

Its BoothBox

CD?

do i just do strings somefile.doc

yeah

at boot:, try “linux single”

I need single user mode so I can install it to disk
Could not find image “linux”

easier way to translate from the command line: date -d ‘@1188363150′

hit your tab key, should lsit available images

find out what it’s default image host name is (it will say “loading something” right after boot)

dkr, nope

ok, so when i go apt-get install gtk-gnutella it doesnt show up

isolinux doesn’t I don’t think

but the file is listed in here

explody, too fast

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fgtk-gnutella%2Fgtk-gnutella_0.96.4-2_i386.deb&md5sum=6a0588134249c4066ece18fdf775e2fe&arch=i386&type=main
so, i dont get it. shouldnt it show in apt-get as well?

prompt

dkr thank you that helps tremendously

forks.

\amethyst yours didnt work

did you leave out the T ?

the formatting seems all messedu p

ameth you left it out
ameth i copied and pasted yours verbatim

yeah, you’re supposed to
what does date –version say ?

date (coreutils) 5.2.1

yeah, that’s where the humor aspect came in. strings just read the ascii text characters, not the proprietary binary formatting stuff

is there a live debian distro that will run on powerpcs? (non-intels)

gotcha…the program ‘catdoc’ does what i need

eddiemonge, yes
its called “debian”
It runs on pretty much everything

oh, nifty

must have been added in a later version

my server is a powermac 300

\amethyst: there’s newer versions? how do i get them

sounds like you’re running sarge
you’d need to upgrade to etch or find some sarge backports
sarge probably loses security support sometime next year, so you need to upgrade anyway

hello everybody
i have a smal question

hello

i got a dependency problem while trying to install gtk-gnutella

i’m using gnome

could someone please join #flood so that i can paste the output there?

and i want to hide desktop icons
how can i do that ?
thanks !!

just use http://pastebin.ca

!tell enigma about paste

kernelnewbies tuturials dont work debian

http://pastebin.ca/675084

can you be more specific

how can i hide desktop icons ?

delete them?

You could also prefix them with a dot maybe?

i want to keep them and just hide them

desktop

is there a way to tell nautilus to not show them ??

explody i need to compile the kernel because one option they say … to i can put the wireless here working … and the kernel is giving all type of mistakes … i tyr many tuturials and i really need the wireless … to i can work whith this computer so im stoped i allready try it for a
few days but nathing
looks nathings is working here and i allreayd spent a few days in my life try to compile the kernel whith your tuturials and nathing

What’s wrong with making them hidden by adding a dot to their name?

i dont know how to work around this dependency thing

hi

which wireless support?

if it was the only way ! i’ll be sad cause windows can do that

did anyone know app that i can use for virtual CD in debian ?

I just told you where the nautilus setting is…

i have tested but the icons still there

explody they say i nede to disable one option here to i install one codec .. to put the wireless work … but to do that first i nede to compile my kernel …. and im here for days … for nathing … makes me thinking why im using linux ..

when writing a script using tar is it better to cd to the dir and use an absolute path for the -f location? OR use the -C option?

Azar, virtual cd?

yes

it isn’t better to do either

what wireless card do you have

6 of one, half a dozen of the other eh?

Azar, is that another term for mounting an iso?

ok thanks

I just didn’t find many -C examples so I was wondering if it wasn’t very “standard”

for example in WinXp you can use Deamon tools to mount iso file and the OS think it is in the CD drive

but i still have to rename the other folders with the “.” in the begining !! ;-(

explody i bealive is bether we concentract in kernel stuff

Azar, mount -o loop (man mount)

if I don’t know which card you need to support, I can’t help you fix the kernel

Azur1, ^^

what am I supposed to do, guess which hardware you have?

explody the problem is the kernel dont work … ok one minute please
explody ipw3945(wifi)

you do not need to recompile the kernel for that
apt-get install module-assistant madwifi-source madwifi-tools
m-a a-i madwifi
done

the 3945ABG isn’t atheros
but it isn’t much harder than that

wooooops

!tell corydora about ipw3945

you’re right, I was looking at the wrong laptop
thank you

zinx do i innstall and do what explode says or i do what you are say?

do what zinx says

because what you tell to me i allready try

it should work

explody i tell you im here for days try to put this work what he is say to me … it simple dont work here

if it doesn’t, you’ll have to be more specific than “doesn’t work”

i dont know
zinx so tell to me where i shoud go?

h3sp4wn, is there a cross gdb for powerpc ?

we could probably help here if we had enough information to do so, but all we know is that it “doesn’t work”

here is a page with some information on the 3945: https://www.klabs.be/~fpiat/linux/debian/Etch_on_Thinkpad_T60.html

anyone ever tried to make a dvd that will boot a live distro on windows, macintels and powerpcs?

boot a distro on windows?

on wintel you mean?

explody im using one asus g1s

you mean on intel?

not thinkpad …

it doesn’t matter, just look at the part about the networking

i want a dvd that will boot a live cd image on x86 and ppc machines

the ASUS G1S-A1 has a 4965AGN

hi there
i have a problem upgrading mailman on debian during a dist-upgrade from sarge-etch
the errors i encounter are at http://rafb.net/p/jQdgFY38.html
can someone have a look at them and help?

explody they dont use the wireless drive … from asus thta i cant install here looks like

you’ll have to make 2 separate dvds I believe

you’ll need to upgrade your kernel to 2.6.22 and use the iwlwifi drivers at intellinuxwireless.org, grab 0.1.12 – i don’t believe it is packaged in debian yet.
you’ll need the firmware too

listen to zinx

(debian, perplexingly, has the iwlwifi firmware, but it is outdated)

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/ISO_%28multiarch%29

zinx that what i was tell you … that im having kernel problems

deja vu

that whta im try to do and it is not working

what version of debian are you running? etch/lenny/sid?

so my 1 question was why the tuturials of the kernel.org kernelnewbies are not working whith debian

\amethyst: neato, I didn’t know that

zinx wel i chance the sources to install sid to try

sid has 2.6.22

\amethyst: thanks!

so you won’t need to compile hosting it if you’re using sid

zinx i dont wnat to use sid here

ah

this is to supost be stable pc
so i nede to compile my own kernel

grab the source for 2.6.22, copy the /boot/config-2.6.* for your running kernel to .config in the unpacked source, and use make-kpkg to build it

urg o0 0o

What filesystem you think is better for desktop use?

let me see if there’s a HOWTO anyway for iwlwifi specificly

zinx i allready try make-kpg … and nathing …

AFAIK, ext3 is slower than ReiserFS (and Reiser4). Do you use one of these filesystems?

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=10812

how do I change the timezone on the console?

claudio`: ext3 is good for general use, reiser handles lots of small files quite well, XFS handles large files quite well

doesn’t cover compiling the kernel though

zinx explody ok just leave thank you very much for your help
maby i just put windows here

make-kpkg did absolutely nothing? that is odd, it usually at least gives an error message.

i know also that with reiser it’s possible to recovery the erased files by rebuilding the tree while with ext3 (and XFS) it’s not possible.

forget i can have one more mouth this stop

claudio`: the biggest differences between them are ususally people’s opinions about which is better. I’ve used those and more with success, and I have only very rarely experienced anything that made one look better than nother

na komm, du feige sau. geil dich hier auf Freenode auch noch ein paar mal auf solange ich nach proxies scanne

fwiw i have an ASUS G1S-A1 running Debian, wireless works fine :/

good luck

in fact everything but the webcam works great (OLED included) – the webcam uses a standard protocol so i blame linux for not supporting it properly

reiser (3 at least) doesn’t support extended attributes from what I’ve seen

Hello need help with getting security software for a web cam can be used as a motion detector
in linux

!tell Bibleman_Bill about search

look at the package ‘motion’

ok will try

zinx forget … just your way or nathing that the problem …

assuming your webcam is supported by V4L

this linx tuturials are stupid cruisels sometimes

ican see the preview with the Cam stream

i try weeks follow tuturials and everyone says difreent things
and none worksssssssss

there are many millions of problems that can occur, we can not narrow it down without any information, and we aren’t paid enough to go through the billions of solutions to those millions of problems until one works

zinx that is insane stuff
i got this stoped for 1 mouth because of that and what more makes me bored is i know we got software to put this works but i got this stoped

error messages tend to help a lot if you post the whole message (though not in a channel – use a pastebin or something, ask dpkg about nopaste)

ok im sorry guys good night
thanks for the help ok nop forget cya sorry for the troubles

I was just about to provide a long, snappy comeback
my kernel’s broke, can you fix it please

How do I allow for login to X on my ubuntu server remotely from my PC. I have RealVNC on my PC but X is not running on my machine. How do I turn on X through the console and then connect?

hi, i have problems during a dist-upgrade from sarge-etch

try this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xvnc_terminal_server

mailman will not upgrade due to some python Attribute error

!ubuntu

Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian’s standards (see Debian policy). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on
#debian.

same basic steps for any linux distro

did you read release notes?

http://rafb.net/p/jQdgFY38.html
sure i did read the release notes

vncserver starts a fake X session anyway

maybe not every single sentence. is there something in there regarding mailman that i overlooked/
bmaybe not every single sentence. is there something in there regarding mailman that i overlooked//b

why oh why is firefox so fucking slow
WHY

do you have many extensions installed?

specifially designed for the doped

I need a quick answer to a mate why debian is better than ubuntu

lool

plenty of extensions run lots of javascript on every single page

\amethyst, flashblock and webdev

hi all

/msg dpkg why debian

cmacis, better is highly subjective.
!better

from memory, better is a matter of personal taste; asking “is foo better than bar?” is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by “better”.

not familiar with webdev, is it any faster when you disable it?

because it doesn’t load a bunch of useless shit on your pc that is totally useless.
would be my answer
\amethyst, not really

oh, then it’s just firefox being an ass

hehe Quintin

maybe try epiphany

or firefox on winxp. which is superfast.. =\

any ideas regarding my problem?

as i told you before, just read release notes, feel free to mail about if its not mentioned there
Debian cannot solve every single fucking problem for you

lol

i did read the release notes. and i do not feel that a broken update path from sarge to etch is a minor thing. and this is not just a “small fucking” (your words) problem encountered because i put unstable on production systems

:-O

just try to remove mailman and re-install it later new
(thats what in my experiences help…)

same problem

remove and re-install, huh? is this #windowsserver ?

exactly. maybe a try a reboot

try to purge EVERYTHING
even the config-files and such
(if you did the upgrade process it should able to install mailman, otherwise its a bug)

Doesn’t the OP want to keep his working MLs ?

yes, i would like to. IF it is necessary i will make a (seperate and most recent) backup of my configuration files and purge them _then_. If that is the only way to achieve an upgrade i will do so..

maybe compiling the old working version of mailman from source package under etch works? I’m not very familiar with source packages but it did the trick for me once

but i would like to understand the error first before taking such steps. which will enable me to file a bug report that is helpful and might even contain a solution for other users encountering that problem

I did this (mailman, sarge to etch) upgrade without having this particular problem, though.
(another one, I got)

babilen then explore the problem in another partition.

ok, seems like i have to do some research on my own, as #mailman is dead…

hi t he newest debian release, what kernel version is used @ installation ?

2.6.18

The latest stable release ships with kernel 2.6.18
There are more recent kernels in the testing and unstable branches of Debian.

i’m trying to find out if mobo is supported
M2N32-SLI Premium
Asus
NVIDIA nForce® 590 SLI™ MCP

should be (might have a buggy bios but Asus should have fixed it by now)
(even then you could use no_timer_override (2.6.20+) or noapic

how can i add a location to my $PATH?
to all users…..

hello everybody

/etc/profile or /etc/environment

IgorSobreira, /etc/skel

igor, PATH=$PATH(separator)stuff or stuff(sep)$PATH maybe?

There *is* actually a command (shipped with mailman) that actually saves a list configuration.
(don’t know about subscriptions, though.)

Debian Etch… trying to get a Linksys WUSB54G working. google finds some pages saying to use the prism54 driver, others the rt2500 driver… loading the prism54 module doesn’t do anything, and using m-a to download, compile, and install the rt2500 module also does nothing… module loads, says
nothing, nothing in dmesg. any ideas?

it’s possible to make ghost on active partition ( with dd ) ?
if my computer if turn on if you prefer ..

ok, what is this magic command. i am doing an backup of just mailman related files right now

Let me see….

Does anybody remember the name of the command that you can use to see which dynlinked libaries binaries need ?

gargantua, ld

ldd

gargantua, or ldd

That would be config_list -o – listname

list.

tried installing hotplug, didn’t help… only thing shown in dmesg when you plug it in is the generic “new full speed usb device” messgae, and /etc/init.d/hotplug start doesn’t seem to even try loading a module for it.

thanks

And then, the same command with -i (fed with the output you got from -o) later, to get back all the parameters.
man config_list is short and helpful.
About members, list_members to get members out (on backup)
and add_members to get members in (on restore).

please turn that off

man pages exists, and are OK (not always the case… but well, I never wrote any, so I’ll just stay quiet, and thankful for those who do exist.

hi2all

were the last two things directed at garo?

ok, thanks for the help! that at least provides an upgrade path for me…. hope it works out in the end

hello everyone…i’m trying to install a minimal kvm (kernel virtualization machine) host, but I have no idea how to get a minimal X frontend or whether I actually need it…

Yes. Really hope that will help.
Tell us if it does.

hey everyone

hello

so far i have installed etch without selecting any software, then doing a dist-upgrade to unstable and installing kvm and qemu

By the way, web logs made available with script and cat -n ?

does anyone know of a tool that lets you see what ports are used by what processes?

maybe lsof can do this?

todd_ netstat or if you don’t mind risking nmap (had to reset a router after a scan once)

illo except nmap doesn’t tell you what process is behind that port does it?

todd it tries

just lsof -i

i’ll have to wait till later to try it. it has a bunch of dependencies and I can’t risk the live server with it right now

todd if the java server hosting is yours use lsof -i as h3sp4wn said

lsof should be on any system, i think
it’s pretty basic

I have a very barebones debian
I need to apt get it

ah, i just saw it’s not on mine either
so, todd, maybe you can help me with a minimal X server?

netstat -p as root

zagibu ?

don’t know what to install to get a minimal X server
i’d just like to be able to start virtual machines with qemu
i thought you might know, cause you have very barebones debian, too

aptitude install x-window-system xserver-xorg xfce4 xfonts-scalable xfonts-base xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi
but use fluxbox instead of xfce4

fluxbox would be the window manager, eh?

yep

ok, thx, i’ll give it a try

can’t you just apt-get install xorg?
the machines i’m running don’t even have x installed

dunno todd_ that’s what worked for me

use ion2
ok so lsof and netstat both tell me about the processes running but neither show the relation between process and port(s)

netstat -pant (as root) and look in the last column

todd, i see ports listed in lsof and netstat (use -n?)

if you don’t give g++ any options and you compile something on a p4 does it compile for a p4 or a older arch ?

last column is the process, third column is the local address and port, fourth is the remote address and port

hi all how and where can i define just the locale LC_TIME ?

amethyst awesome thanks

i installed mailman from oldstable now, and put mailman on hold. this problems needs way more time tomorrow

-punta if you want UDP too

thanks again for your help.

You’re welcome.

Is it possible to create a virtual network interface? I need to create a virtual network within this machine for some hosted vms

and good luck for tomorrow’s upgrade

I think the default arch target is i386 unless a makefile changes it
or you specify it on the command line
brb.. reboot

thunderbird doesnt support http protocol to receive messages, just pop and imap. is there any that supports? My father cant access his hotmail account, since hotmail doesnt have a pop

look for the ‘hotway’ package

besides, hotmail not supporting neither pop nor imap in 2007 means it should not have the name mail in it.

or ‘gotmail’ to do it a slightly different way

oh wait, i recall it’s MS stuff. no easy way out as usual
oh wait, i recall it’s MS stuff. no easy way out as usual

“hotway can be configured to run with inetd” wtf?

xjkx, means automatic startup when network goes up, kinda.

but i dont want to be the server
i am the client

it’s a pop3 server that reads mail from hotmail
like a proxy

is gotmail like that too?

please turn that off

gotmail downloads the mail and delivers it to a local mailbox

xjkx, nothing bad in running a server into your machine. you do it for X.

thanks

The POP3-HTTPMail Gateway. Server on xxx active.

what do i do now?

you’re running it from the command line, or telnetting in to the pop3 port?

cmd line
with a normal user
hope gotmail is more intuitive

did you select for it to be managed automatically
?

\amethyst: i think

how to check for defected clusters in my hard disk ?

i answered yes to that question i showed, about inetd

try telnet localhost pop3 and see if it connects

can i do a netinstall with my usb modem???

you shouldn’t need to run it from the command line
man badblocks
also look at the program smartctl in the package smartmontools
smartctl asks the disk to check itself, while badblocks does the checking itself

\amethyst, what’s the difference between fsck and badblocks

he

One checks a filesystem, one checks a disk

heh

can i make a netinstall with my ueagle-atm firmware??

hai mister streuner

can i do a netinstall with my usb modem???

hi

did you read the latest bathroom-novel about BSD vs linux based hosting services (hint: Theo gloats over some wifi licencing issue)?

!netinstall

methinks netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection. see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst If you use a dialup connection, ask me about dialup install.

no, dont bother me too much with that…

modem? you mean dial up modem?

no usb adsl modem…Asus Aam6000ug..i’m using ueagle-atm

he critizes everything, and thats ok

Linux for a whole lot of things

well, I like neither by now
they deserve one another

i need to know if i can configure chap-secrets and pap-secrets manually by copying firmware to install a debian system

I only like Debian

debian++

Internal (PCI) ISDN cards and WLAN cards are not supported sorry!
this is what i thought i think

I installed debian like everyone here thanks, so can you

i can’t install i think with the netinstall

on Etch (the current stable) usb is supported, don’t know what old documentation you are reading

http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable
i’m reading this

good night all

oh

Netinstalling is a pain anyway

\amethyst, any tool that can show in a graphic way the map of the disk with badblocks ?
\amethyst, i need to know how much badblocks i have

I take it you read i386?

no gnome with 1cd?? only kde and xfce i suppose

smartctl -a /dev/whatever should show how many blocks are physically bad instead of logically bad as the OS sees them

why can’t you net install?

cause i have a usb adsl modem
not ethernet

hm

why do you need gnome to use your modem?

when using tar –newer can “date” be any format of the date command?

no i’m just asking…cause i can’t install netinstall so maybe i can install 1cd version i thought…and i love gnome

gnome is for applications. adsl modems use drivers… they’re hardware…

so –newer `date +%F` will work just as well as any?

are you sure the net install won’t support your dsl modem?

hello guys. If I want to configure x11vnc to run when the gdm runs as greater, anyone has accomplish this?

CDs are not versions. they’re collections of parts of debian. you can add network sources, too, once you’ve set up the networking
and then you can install whatever other buggy crap you want so that you can complain that debian sucks

true that, you just install minimally from CD and the suck the other 99% from the network

I am trying to have the “x11vnc” application to run automatically after the gdm greater start.

hey
if i compile a C program in linux
like a simple C program that outputs some text
can it be run in windows

how do you open an .ods doc? my friend said he made it with oocalc but there is no oocalc in debian. when I run ooffice foo.ods it gives me a list of filters, but no choice looks like what I want: an oo spreadsheet

stiv2k you are a tool.

no

!find bin/oocalc

Debian Search of ‘bin/oocalc’ (1): (/usr/bin/oocalc) in editors/openoffice.org-calc.

how can i make it work

compile the same source in windows

ah

which part of NO you didn’t get?

eh? it’s there…

assuming that works

compile for windows, either on windows or cross-compile

how can i do that?

anyone here has experience using the x11vnc?\

cross-compile? use google

ok

i have to copy my ueagle-atm firmware and make some arrangements to install my usb modem…i’m not use if i can handle it?

cross compile for windows?

in ubuntu i was installing my modem fby copying firmware files

I think not

ah, openoffice.org-calc is the package. I was looking for oocalc. thanks

cygwin is an option (compiling the source in it, I mean)

rahul, Device does not support Self Test logging

you can cross-compile for amigaos, I don’t see why not windows

i mean i use linux

sorry, I didn’t mean that it was impossible, just that it’s like 50x more complicated than compiling in windows

but my proffessor runs our C programs on a windows machine

when using tar –newer can “date” be any format of the date command? (`date +%F` just as good as any?)

so i want to make them executeable in windows just to make sure it behaves as it should

your prof.should be interested in the CODE.

he shld be compiling them to check you haven’t cheated

yes i understand that
we are supposed to submit the SOURCE

this is not #windows…

but I want to run them in windows to make sure it behaves as it should when he runs them
omfg
im not asking a windows question

you are

yes, you are

tell him to buy you windows

get windows 98, get qemu

you are asking how to run C programs in windows

i _have_ windows but i _use_ linux
no i am not

and we don’t know how that should be debian related, anyway

i am asking how to compile a C program in LINUX so that i can execute in windows

you don’t

is php on debian compiled with the “PHP Crack extension”?

you could cross compile and test in wine

not easily, at least
well, that might give a false positive…

get cygwin, seriously. easiest option you have

debian has a toolchain builder..

you “have” windows so get the source and compile it with whatever your professor is using

wine isn’t exactly bug-free

Hi guys, I’m pretty new to debian. I’m running etch v4 and I would like to install the latest version of compiz fusion. I’m wondering if this could be possible using apt-get and the unstable repository or I’ll end up in a stable/unstable dependencies hell? thanx in advance

that’s why I suggested win98 and qemu

if your professor can’t compile strict ANSI C, well it’s HIS problem

or optionally, “msys” which is native gcc for windows

“Etch v4″ doesn’t make sense – you’re running Debian 4.0, aka “Etch”

upgrade all the way or not at all. testing exists as well.

rahul, any way to low-level format my hard disk ?

yes. true.

PerfDave right sorry

nettie : first of all. use aptitude it is the preferred installation method in etch.

not via an OS.

rahul, i think that will get me off my badblocks

he can, he uses dev C++

rahul, it’s from a livecd

which is GCC based

you need to follow what your hardware manuals tell you

ok

You don’t want to mix packages from stable and unstable. You might be able to “backport” (compile from source) the package on your stable system, /msg dpkg backports

your hard disk is on a live cd?

i guess i havent made myself very clear

so you should be able to crosscompile and generate the same executable

second: compiz is highly unstable and therefore not really advised to install

PerfDave thanx

rahul, no, my hard disk is in my laptop, and am running a live cd to do the checks …

I have windows. I can if i wanted to reboot and compile the source in windows using dev C++. However, being the linux user I am i’d prefer to not reboot and cross compile it here
great

you’ll need some sort of windows environment to test that executable actually works

it’s not “highly unstable”

as you will install it anyway.. what graphic chipset do you have?

yeah i know i’ll test it on my room mates laptop
any links or docs to do it?

babilen 945GM I bealive
I’m already runningn 915resolution

i would not let it touch any of my machines….

or just wine while you’re working and then reboot when you have a hand-in-ready product

I already configured xorg with the dri compiste and glx stuff old stable version works

why is that, I’m running it right now on 3 different boxes and it’s fine

ever hear of mingw? someone in another channel suggested it…

the point is that I would like to try some of the bleeding edge features and eyecandy of the new version

mingw/msys yes, it works quite well

mingw is gcc for windows

I’ll rather stay with openbox though but it looks so temptive

http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz might help

stiv2k you can talk about mingw in #windows, probably… they’ll know the flaws and benefits of it better than we do…

I thought the point was that you wanted to work in linux/debian?

thanx guys

yeah

or maybe there’s a specific #mingw channel

can i compile my shit in LINUX so it can execute in windows

yep

sweet

the executables come out a different size though

did all that

I don’t think you’re getting what he wants.. he can generate and test windows executables under debian just fine

oops sorry
didnt know 4 lines was considered a flood

I’m running the compiz-fusion git now, it’s more buggy than the previous compiz or beryl, but I’ve still had fairly few problems

it’s fine.. I’ll go trough the backport thing

but yeah

explody on sid or etch?

so what’s the big deal here?

both, actually

I had to use wine a lot at uni.. the eda stuff we used was windows only, the mcu sim windows only

though I upgraded the etch box to sid for unrelated reasons

note that there’s no guarantee that he’ll use mingw

explody do you have a compiz fusion etch repo? does anyone already backported it?

if you want “stable” for for the slightly older beryl

different compilers can be incompatible, so you’ll need to test using tghe compiler he uses in the end

compiz-fusion is going to be weirder, though it does look neat

yeah he’s already mentioned he uses dev C++… i just want to compile them for windows execution for my own testing purposes (to make sure i put the system(“PAUSE”) in the right places and stuff mostly….)

hi, with command can i read for example NR1.jpg to 01.jpg ?