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I have a multipart 7zip archive with two parts one ends in 7z001 and the other 7z002 When I run 7z x on the first

wesolek, change them all to say (hd0,1) instead of (hd0,0) which would be sda1 which you do not want

I’ve been having heating issues lately.. When I initially installed Gentoo I installed i8k utils to controll my fans from gkrellm. At some point while having the service run by default it was making the fans act weird. For example the fans would be set to automatic which is suppose to set the fans on full speed but it would seem to cause the fans to rev up and down constantly …

yea kinda sad im @ like 160 packages left, out of 270

Ok, now we have something. It’s telling me that it couldn’t bind to 127.0.0.1:9050

so I need to just change the (hd0,0) to (hd0,1)? grknight

GMouse, maybe that port is already taken?

wesolek,

netstat will tell

im using all the use flags with gnome-menus

grknight, reboot?

wesolek, after you change all 3.. you should be able to safely reboot

It shouldn’t be taken. The only thing that I can think of that would interfere is my firewall. But I have iptables following extremely lax rules for OUTPUT

wesolek, and don’t forget to pop out the CD

no no, it’s listening problem
GMouse, check netstat -t -n -l

thanks for telling me, I just changed all 2!!! lol just correcting my mistake

nada

050

wesolek, the first error 15 is the splash image

I know that, grknight
ok here it comes
yeah

Then I decided to turn off the service but left the plugin in gkrellm active and it works without the constant reving,

nie blueish screen

Just that the temp goes up

hi, – net-misc/ipv6calc-0.45 (masked by: missing keyword) what i must to do?

Checking privoxy returns an error that it couldn’t read /var/log/tor/config

I can’t believe!!! it’s actually doing something!!! like booting up I think!!!! monkeh, grknight

So I think if I fix tor, privoxy will work as well.

wesolek, you’ll just have to remember to use (hd0,1) in grub from now on

/etc/portage/package.mask

— Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.mask: net-misc/ipv6calc-0.45

another question

grknight, monkeh… hm, how to say that.. FATAL: couldn’t open some modules for wireless

wesolek, oops.. i think i found another error: “real_root=/dev/hda3″

in the mm1 patch of the vanilla kernel, CFS is included

they are 3 packet masked 0.45 0.50 0.51 i must add all?

upd when you use a version, u must use an = in front of the group

wesolek, that should be “real_root=/dev/sdb2″
sda2*

is it included by default or do you have to choose it in menuconfig?

I see that, grknight
let me change it

/etc/portage/package.mask

wesolek, fix that.. then reboot into the 2nd kernel.. that’s newer and probably where your wireless is

Ok, now this is interesting. Google tells me that the problem could be that the loopback device doesn’t exist. ifconfig confirms that.
lo doesn’t exist for some odd reason.

remember to clear the line without “=” in front

!!! (Did you specify a version but forget to prefix with ‘=’?)

GMouse, /etc/init.d/net.lo start

i clear it..
and don’t work

and add that to boot runlevel

oh no, it was saying sda2, that’s why it worked

pastie it please

wesolek, did you start the 1st or 2nd kernel on the list? the 2nd one is newer

ok booting to the newer kernel this time, grknight
File system couldn’t be fixed – that’s the message
and Give root password for maintenance

wesolek, you may be missing the correct fsck program
which filesystem is that?

astorm, that is way beyond my linux knowledge… I just followed the handbook

wesolek, a bit lousily I guess. log in as that root

wesolek, did you format it with mke2fs or something like mkreiserfs?

and type mount

no clue, grknight
I’m on it astorm

http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=1476 help
shoud i add all version?

ok astorm, it gave about 20 lines with info, anything particular you need?

upd, package.mask prevents installs not allows

welp, check the one with / in it

..

!earch ipv6calc

ipv6calc-0.45[0]: ipv6calc-0.50[0]: ipv6calc-0.51[0]: hppa ppc sparc x86

Ok! A little punching around on the CLI, and it all works! I don’t know why net.lo wasn’t on the startup list.

so what is solution?

do the echo thing to package.unmask

they all have / in it, astorm

sorry the mistakes

upd, whats your arch?

sorry welp, wesolek hmm, the one that has /, not /whatever

arch?

cooler, that’s wrong

cooler, no problem

what you mean?

tmpfs on / type tmpfs (rw) /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,data=ordered)
astorm

upd, edit /etc/portage/package.keywords and add “net-misc/ipv6calc **” to it

wesolek, check if you have e2fsprogs installed

to allow a MASKED package you also need to put it at package.unmask

how astorm?

wesolek, uhm, emerge e2fsprogs

damn it, where are the logs for this channel?

cooler, yes.. only if it’s masked by package.mask this is a keyword case

Evening everyone, I am new to gentoo but not to linux, i am most confortable with ubuntu and debian, but would like to try gentoo out after hearing much about it. Are there any good newbie guides for gentoo using either the min cd or live cd?

Stupid question…I finished installing kde…how do I start it?

hum

hi

startkde ?
or put startkde at .xinitrc and run startx

I’ve got an error while compiling kdelibs, anyone else experiencing problems with that ?

upd, add that line (without the quotes) and you’ll be able to merge

grknight, works THANKS YOU!

It says canot connect to x server

grknight, he should remove it from his package.mask as well

it said something about read only files in /var/log/emerge.log and some other stuff, astorm

oh
he must’ve removed it

wesolek, heh, forgot about one thing then
wesolek, mount -o remount,rw /

Aeudian, don’t use the installer is tip#1.. use the handbook

then try again

mzbot, teach Aeudian handbook

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

installer meaning live cd?

ok astorm

lol wow I feel stupid
Feel free to hit me

The only pages google can find with both your any my nicks on it is the log for this channel.\

Aeudian, you can use the livecd if you want a nice way to browse.. just don’t use the installer program on it

- ken tyep

Aeudian, basically the minimal is just that… no xorg, all console
Aeudian, the livecd adds xorg, firefox and other goodies

I think it remounted that partition, astorm

wesolek, now try that emerge again

DrChandra, hmm….I see that. Then I try going up in the URL to just the gentoo directory and I only see 2006 stuff

do I need to be connected to the internet for that? astorm

wesolek, if you have it installed already, then no
but other than that, maybe

it looks like it’s not… it says: couldn’t download

for that to work

like /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start

Nothing newer?

what is the proper way to exit xorg ? ctrl+alt+backspace seems brutal

DrChandra, didn’t see it
anyway….I asked a question and had to leave.

ok let me do it… unfortunately the wire is downstairs… brb

i just installed gentoo but after trying booting into i’m greeted with this “Calling quiesce …returning 0×01400000 from prom_init” on forums i have read that frame buffer is the cause of it, i have tried the suggestion made on there and also i have followed installion handbook without missing a step, I’m on ppc64, I would appreciate any help

close all programs that are running in it. if that’s done and it’s still running, then ctrl_alt_backspace will do absolutely no harm.

ok, then i need to figure out how to exit the wm, thanks

Looks like all the channels ended June 18th, 2006.

it won’t start it, astorm

What are you looking for?

usually if the script that starts things is in ~/.xinitrc killing the last started one (usually wm) will end X.
what wm?

ion3

I have about 8.5 hours right now.

I just asked if anyone used AWN

oh. don’t know how to exit it. sorry.

cannot run net.eth0 until sysinit completes

wesolek, do what you have to, then, to get the internet access

astorm

np, thanks for your help

it might be easier to start the livecd
and then mount and chroot like in the handbook

does anyone know the default location for sound devices in /dev/? (trying to get sound working in vmware)

I think you’re right… astorm, brb

I see no replies.

DrChandra, thanks

Hi there!

No mentions of AWN, either, except for yours.

hmm, okay

anyone has any suggestions for solving the “Calling quiesce …returning 0×01400000 from prom_init” boot error ?

it’s in the wm menu, by pressing f12 (just letting you know)

Hi. I have a problem with grub/gentoo fresh install. Same HD, i have windows (partition 1), swap (partition 2) and ext3 (partion 3) with gentoo. My devices are sda1/2/3 respectively. I have in grub.conf root(hd0,2) kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda3, and the kernel will begin to boot, but it iwll complain it cant mount the root FS. It says something about VMS/floppy, so i hit enter and, it says i have hd1/3 available
Any help or experiance with this would be appreciated

When I ’startx’ it boots to a gui with three root bashes and when I start kde it looks really…primitive.

I can’t even do that, astorm

Is it supposed to look like that?

glibc-2.6 does not actually support the nptl USE flag?

I tried to start the eth.0 and it gave me the same error as when booting up the system normally
this is crazy

wesolek, hmm
maybe your network provider is being funny

I don’t think I am strong enough to keep going

check /etc/resolv.conf

nope, it was fine yesterday

and /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf
hmm

it rebooted now…. waiting to do it again

your ISP is acting evil

believe me, that’s not it

thanks

my secure linux web hosting is acting evil
lol

is the default 512MB for an 80gb drive good for swap? i have never configured the partitions for linux ever, 512MB is what gentoo guide recommands

yea
depends on what you’re going to do with system, but that’s usually enough.

typical stuff, no gaming, maybe gui later on and some services
is it bad to go with 1GB?

it’s fine

wesolek, well, you just forgot to install filesystem utilities – missed one step in the handbook

correct me if i am wrong, but swap is like a page file in windows? you dont want to much or to little? i have 1.5GB in memory

hi, just installed gentoo (using the handbook) and when I reboot my GRUB starts but does not give me the OS’s I specified in my config file, it just has a “grub” command line. I have a seperate boot partition (hda5). You think maybe it’s not reading the config file?

can we still do it now? astorm?

algun sevillano

wesolek, yes, if you get all needed files or network connection up

I will go downstairs to emerge it… maybe it’ll pick it up

the easiest way would be to start as if you were installing
yep

do I need to do anything else other than emerge? while I am connected

pues que bien

wesolek, I don’t think so

ok brb then
ok back… emerged
astorm

wesolek, now it should boot

do I need to install it or something?

well, emerge == installation

IMPORTANT: 2 config files in /etc need updating
but it doesn’t say what files
should I just ignore it astorm?

wesolek, use etc-update

gentoo 4tw?

or dispatch-conf

ok I think I’ve done it… reboot now? astorm

wesolek, why not

astorm… same error

wesolek, weird
maybe check your /etc/fstab
if it’s correct

but I don’t know what device and I know that the 8139too module doen’t work on this laptop

that’s why I can’t just simply use a live cd
cos it loads this bloody module!!!!

okay pleaes don’t yell at us

I hate to say that, but it looks like I will have to apologise to windows astorm
unless anybody’s got any idea how to load a live cd without the 8139too module…..

wesolek, hmm, nodetect should work
gentoo prompt
but I wonder if you’ll be able to get networking up w/o network card driver :P

but then I will end up with what I had before… no hardware working

hm
I wonder why 8139too doesn’t work

no, I tried that too… loading 8139cp didn’t do the trick

any OOPS message, or just networking doesn’t work?

it’s this bloody lan card they put in this laptop

it’s probably not 8139too
lspci will tell you

it is

could you paste here that one line from lspci about that card?
(Ethernet controller)

it won’t tell anything cos as soon as you try to load the module, it hangs and only holding down the power button is a remedy

sounds really bad
try booting with nodetect, then run that lspci
btw, what kind of laptop it is?

it’s a philips laptop
freevents X55
just type gentoo nodetect?
I can do it manually by entering the interactive mode and skipping autoconfig… is that the same?
astorm
monkeh are you still around?

wesolek, yes, the same

wait… I pasted my lspci yesterday
http://rafb.net/p/oSQjzd75.html
there astorm

wesolek, 404
that’s why rafb.net sucks
I suggest pastebin.com or pastebin.ca

????
oh ok
let me copy it for you
http://pastebin.com/m48a8b2e6
astorm, I just don’t know why I pasted first 24 lines…. look at 25-on

Hmm, it’s a normal realtek
which livecd are you using?
BTW, you can use almost any
Knoppix is known to work well

2007.0 but it doesn’t matter, I tried, ubuntu (3 different distributions), suse, and gentoo… they all do the same

i am following the gentoo handbook, and im on the part where i must download gentoo stage3, but i seem to get my download stalled/stoped around 7-9mb into the download, i have tried 5 differnet mirrors and all seem to stop, i am downloading the files to /mnt/gentoo just like the guide says and with the default partition sizes

wesolek, weird, sounds like a hardware problem

Try using wget

oh… knopix didn’t work either
well… windows was ok

anyone did HOWTO XMMS2?

You’re very unlucky it seems
probably buggy hardware

yeah, if knoppix isn’t working, I’d definitely say issues with your hardware (whether NIC, router, or hard drive)

with bugs being worked around in windows drivers
would be of much interest to certain developers

and when I managed to delete this module as soon as ubuntu unzipped it, the instalation went fine, only my lan never worked

I don’t know what is exactly wrong, but it’d be good to check the magic sysrq keys
if these work

rakeyry will do, is the digests file on the servers the md5 file to compare too?

it’s alt+printscreen+some letter

You be the judge

figured as much =P

nothing works once it starts loading this module
astorm… just by looking at my lspci, can you tell me what modules I need to install, I guess I could do it manually

some here use pppoe-start
?

live cd has booted up now

http://pastebin.ca/622738

That’s a start.

i got this error while i was compiling firefox
please have a look at it

wesolek, well, it looks like you should use 8139too, but… :/
maybe your card has broken PIO or MMIO
there is an option for that in the kernel

i cant use that, i tried with root #pppoe-start andsay only root can use that not found /bin/id

rakeyry, only without autoconfig I even managed to start the xserver (but only on vesa driver)
is there? astorm?

*

yes, but I don’t know whether that’s switchable from the kernel command line

huh?

you could try noapic option first

Command Line Interface is all you need…

APICs tend to be broken

there ?

and then, if that fails or works, irq=poll

rakeyry… I love my wobbly windows lol that’s the only reason I want it on my laptop
lol

bdf“`: needs more info… post the entire emerge output if possible

How do I unmask an ebuild which has KEYWORDS=”"?

astorm, do you want me to reboot it again????

wesolek, mhm

nDuff, **

o.o A waste if you ask me.

damn. astorm… lol
oo? rakeyry?

thank you.

I use dwm.

does anyone know if an svn checkout dies half way through, can it pick up where it left off?

rakeyry, I have no idea what you are saying… oo and dwm doesn’t tell me anything

in CUPS, it insists that my parallel port is busy — is there any way to “force” it to be free again?
without rebooting that is

sometimes, but you may need to prune bits. the working tree library is probably the ugliest, most hackish code in svn.

i was trying to install firefox and it gave me this error please have a look at it http://pastebin.ca/622738

“no” is really the easier answer to that question.

dwm – http://dwm.suckless.org/

bdf“`: again, thats not enough info, post the entire emerge output if possible, or then, post the most of it you can.

gentoo noapic ???? or gentoo noacpi??? and btw, I’ve done it too with gentoo acpi=off, astorm

sure give me two mins

wesolek, the first one

damn, somebody misspelled it last night, and maybe that’s why it didn’t work???
and leave it to load itself?

wesolek, no, it’s another option
yes, leave it to load

Yeah Linux doesn’t handle typos well

rakeyry, it’s not a typo – it’s another option

O

thanks astorm

h

gentoo noload=8139too – but it didn’t work

http://pastebin.ca/622750

On the following page http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX#Installing_AIGLX I have just ‘emerge –sync –newuse world’ and it tells me to type glxinfo | grep direct I’m getting ‘bash: glxinfo: command not found’

i have tried to copy as much as i could

sorry… didn’t work Kernel panic – not syncing: CPU context corrupt – so the same as before

Was I suppose to emerge something else as well?

Nod-ubuntu, did you install mesa?

and it’s hanging… let me try that other thing you said
astorm

No I have not installed Mesa. Am I suppose to?

Nod-ubuntu, install mesa

wesolek, irq=poll

Simple as ‘emerge mesa’ ?

Yes
Well
Nod-ubuntu, more specifically mesa-progs

compiz fusion is unstable?

Nod-ubuntu, but those depend on mesa I believe

So which is it? ‘emerge mesa’ or ‘emerge mesa-progs’ ?

Nod-ubuntu, try emerge mesa mesa-progs

please?

bdf“`: type equery uses mozilla-firefox and paste the output

I tried installing my system from where I had the live cd started with no autoconfig, and it asked me for modules that I want to have installed… can I just install everything except for the 8139too? and then when it’s all up and running focus on my LAN?
astorm

alright

nope astorm, this one didn’t work either, same kernel panic

[ Searching for packages matching mozilla-firefox... ]
!!! No matching packages found for “mozilla-firefox”

bdf“`: … ?

wesolek, so, it’s a kernel panic

Is there any way to clear out all of my kernel setting and start all over

bdf“`: uhm, then type emerge -pv mozilla-firefox and paste the ebuild line for me (in a pastebin)

ok

could you copy the output? Digital photos are ok :-)

well this system says so… not always though… I guess depends on it’s mood, but it hangs absolutely
hold on… I think I can do this

Anyone know if there is a way to start with a fresh kernel, i used genkernel and have way to muach clutter in my kernel

make mrproper
wipes the config and everything

astorm, I wll just do it again so there there is no linux graphic window – more to see

Thank you

http://pastebin.ca/622759

do you have any other option you want to try, may as well as need to boot it up again
astorm

wesolek, I’m out of ideas for now

bdf“`: “mozilla-frefox”?

btw it says if you want help , post the topmost build error where should i post it anyways
yea mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: read it again “mozilla-frefox”

ok

anyone beable to get wx.net running on gentoo?

bdf“`: “frefox”?

not sure you’ll be able to read any of it

When you are following the documentation for setting up your kernel and its telling you what to have selected. Does that mean you can untick everything else? IE: Psiedo filesystems for example, it only has 2 items ticked out of the default 4 things that mrproper has ticked.

sorry here is the new one ! http://pastebin.ca/622765

/etc/portage/package.us)

emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: .use?
bdf“`: if the filename was wrong, it *could* be it, but not probably
bdf“`: “-java”, yea, its wrong..

no Skankerpotimous that i gave after it finished
i gave env USE=”java” emerge mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: dont do that :P

ok ok , then what should i do ?

/etc/portage/package.use

bdf“`: then run env-update && source /etc/profile

Is “[*] Use PCI DMA by default when available” now called something else, I am not seeing it

bdf“`: then try emerging firefox again

ok wait a sec

anyone ever done a remote install / got any docs i can look at?

ever did a stage3 manual install ?

what do you mean by ‘manual’ ? i have done stage3 a lot

has “Enable DMA only for disks” Replaced “[*] Use PCI DMA by default when available” ??

what kind of “remote install”? kicking off an installation via netbooting? doing a fully unattended installation?

i have a running centos server, i want to replace it (dont care about config etc.) with gentoo, then rebuild from scratch

Anyone?

partition and then download and untar stage3, portage snapshot etc, etc …

ahh. what does your hard drive situation look like? If you can use a completely separate partition to stage into, that’s ideal.

no idea, that sort of thing would be in kernel mailing list archives, changelogs or someplace equally obscure though

You dont need to enable dma?

this could be the issue http://pastebin.ca/622772

ideally, you’ll be on LVM or somesuch, so there’s no rebooting needed to put updated partition tables into effect &c.

my partitions are basically 2 x 250GB disks RAIDed together, then a seperate boot partition (also raided)

it’s easy enough to find out; look up what the .config option is for both old and new kernels.

two physical disks but two ‘md’ volumes spanning them

bdf“`: maybe, then wait a sec

what can’t you do remotely ?

ok

astorm.. ok I got the pic, where do you want me to send it to?
it’s not the best pic, but I think it’ll be ok

well i want to install gentoo, basically i need to untar the stage3 tarball and portage, set up grub, re-install grub, then reboot the server remotely
i can ssh in to the centos system already

wesolek, hm, imageshack will work

if you keep your existing boot partition, no need for grub installation afaik

imageshack.com?

wesolek, yes

i would just untar stage3 and portage-snapshot, chroot, compile a kernel, add sshd to default runlevel, setup root password and add an entry to grub menu.lst …

maybe it’s better if i change the root partition .. do you know if there’s a tool so that i can resize my 250gb disk’s RAID volume (/’) while running? if not then i guess i’ll have to remove one disk from it, and create a single-disk new root partition… ?
i’m thinking a clean new root partition would be ideal

no LVM running on top of that RAID device, then, I take it. Makes things a little trickier unless you have an initrd you can boot into which will be immediately net-accessible (in which case you’ll be able to repartition and have it take immediate effect, and do other Useful Things).

i don’t know, but i would try to boot from a rescue system and just empty the partitions …. and keep the partitionning, if you hadn’t any problem with it, there shouldn’t be any need touching it

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

taking the time to build an initrd which will start up sshd with a preset root password will make the rest of your life easier wrt the project. test it locally (maybe in a qemu image) to be sure it’ll actually work before you run the risk of rebooting your real apache geronimo server hosting into it.

bdf“`: id recommend creating a bug at bugzilla, i cant seem to run emerge too, it fails to download the patches tarball.
bdf“`: and sorry, now i gtg, cya later

sure thanks alot

good suggestion, thanks. is there a small bootable net-accessible disk image you can recommend?

do I need to register there? astorm?

Hmm, I don’t know

not off the top of my head. I’ve been doing a bunch of playing with catalyst, so I’m in a decent position to be able to make one… but I don’t know of any prebuilt.

rebooting

Actually, just sending this pic by email to me should work

speaking of which… how much trouble will it be if this server gets into a horked/non-net-accessible state? it’s pretty easy to goof up in ways that cause that result.

(if i understood right?) i cant reboot to a rescue system as i dont have local access to select it…

I can send it to kernel devs just fine
astralstorm@gmail.com

not a huge trouble, i have tipped off the hosting provider, they will be able to get it back to ssh-able

cool.

just cost me ~US$40 hehe

ahh.

prefer not to pay that if possible
lucky for some! where do you live? my server is NY, i live in .cn, but i’m in .au now (where i’m from / grew up)

I’m in austin.tx.us

oil country! i guess the gas is cheap there :P

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up
i can ifconfig eth0 up but it doesnt connect

http://www.yourhostedimages.com/images/wesolek/dscf0051.jpg and http://www.yourhostedimages.com/images/wesolek/dscf0048.jpg astorm

it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is
this is a known issuse or can someone offer any advice

heh… by a lot of standards, yes. compared to the rest of .tx.us it’s expensive — but other texans think Austin land prices are expensive too; coming from .ca.us, I think they’re dirt cheap.

at boot it just says bring up …….. not bring up eth0

there are 2, hopefully you can see something on them, astorm

wesolek, yes, but it won’t tell anyone much

sydney real estate is really expensive… maybe not for americans, but for everyone here it is

it’s basically a CPU exception

lol I thought there were just for you

I’ve done mesa mesa-progs.

anyway i might ask them if they can put a cdrom in and start an ssh server so i can do a remote-install that way instead, might save time / be lower-risk

noone can offer any advice?

Nod-ubuntu, now glxinfo | grep direct

that’d be easier, yes.

wesolek, hmm, does the same happen with nodetect when you load 8139too?

Do I need to configure anything from this ? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

what am I supposed to do now? I tried to file a bug report once and it came back to me as I didn’t do it right…

Nod-ubuntu, not yet

Such as the videocard drivers and input devices?
Okay

wesolek, ^

Nod-ubuntu, this simply checks to see if you have direct rendering going

Error: unable to open display (null)

astorm, when you just try to load 8139 it hangs… without producing any line of comment

Nod-ubuntu, do have X running?

anyone know if g15tools supports the g11 as well? the ebuilds don’t say

I dont believe so.
I’m in CLI – fresh install of gentoo minimal cd

Nod-ubuntu, so you’re running it from the terminal?

Yeppers

with the live cd it at least makes it to show the error before it hangs lol… but there are times it won’t make it lol

when i ran the command: “make clean && make && make && make modules_install” the first line read awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file ‘/usr….. for reading

Nod-ubuntu, you have to start X and then issue the command

How can I make sure I even have X installed?

minor723_2 what are you trying to compile host what kernel?

Nod-ubuntu, try startx

Attempting.

2.6.21-gentoo-r4

bash: startx: command not found

all you need to do is make && make modules_install

emerge x?

wesolek, hmm

Isn’t that part of xorg-server?

I will try that, thank you

probably the comment goes to the syslog

astorm, can I find a list of modules needed for my lspci? I’ll give it a go

Nod-ubuntu, I suggest you simply emerge KDE, Gnome, or Xfce4

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up

Nod-ubuntu: the bare minimum is emerge xorg-server, but most emerge xorg-x11 which includes xorg-server as a dependency

it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is

wesolek, I can tell you what you need

what is it then?

but then, the problem is with the machine – it’s buggy and needs a kernel quirk most likely

Nod-ubuntu, that might take a little longer, but it gives you more features, and more friendly environment

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu xorg modular

I preformed a ‘emerge xord-x11 already. Am I suppose to ‘emerge kde’ now?

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml

Nod-ubuntu: do you really want kde?

dwm! FTW!

I’d try anyway, astorm

I have emerged java, but when I run javac I get an error that says * javac is not available for sun-jre-bin-1.6 on i686, can anyone help me get javac working?

Yes, I don’t have a problem using it. It was suggested last night to me by like 6 people

Nod-ubuntu: emerge kde-meta

I’ve wasted so much time on it, 2 hours more won’t make any difference

Thank you

astorm

I always installed e16 first so I could use graphical programs while KDE built

8139too uhci_hcd ehci_hcd hda-intel
and of course proper SATA support built in

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu kde-meta

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/draft/complete/handbook.xml?style=printable&part=1&chap=4

argh

Hello. I would like to talk to someone for some questions regarding Gentoo. I am a windows user who would liket o start using Gentoo despite it’s reputation for being difficult because I would like to sincerely learn linux host through using it.

wesolek, wait, I have another idea for a kernel commandline option

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu kde

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

ok

what’s the question?

sonokamome, it’s got one hell of a learning curve, but if you like that sort of challenge it’s incredibly satisfying

wesolek, pci=routeirq

Well I would like to know if there is a LiveCd that I can use to test out Gentoo if possible?

what do you mean by proper sata support built in?

what’s the diffference between berkdb and fsfs for running an SVN server?

Gentoo is a ‘meta-distribution’

please explain.

there are no ‘default’ packages installed
you choose what you want to put in

ok booting up….. astorm

bdb… is kind of… volatile.

sonokamome, Not really. I’d say find a few days when you can be comfortable reading docs and playing around with the computer, download a Knoppix ISO and a Stage3 tarball and dive in. That’s how I did it.

dude this is killingme i gota get some help

I see.

is it possible to completely remove the panel?

So far I have yet to try Ubuntu and Fedora Core

slaytanic is the contension between them a speed thing? a who came first thing? the wikinode is really vague on this

wesolek, one more thing – boot the machine w/o detection, and paste dmesg output on some pastebin

bdb came first. I doubt you’ll see any speed diference.

slaytanic so you’d reccomend fsfs for stablitiy’s sake?

So I guess I should do that first and get used to the environment and terminal use before considering Gentoo then.

indeed.

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is wheni boot up any it trys to start the network it says “Bring up ……… ok instead of bring up net.eth0

same kernel panic astorm

it is straightforward to install if you read the Gentoo handbook thoroughly, with the Gentoo wiki for any other questions

wesolek, hmm, give me that dmesg output then

I see

ok hold on… astorm

sonokamome, I switched from Fedora to Gentoo back when Fedora was only on Core 4. I used Ubuntu for about a week in between the two. Fedora’s a way better learning distro than Ubuntu I think.

wesolek, you might be able to boot with nrcpus=1, but that will disable the second core

friendly12345, speak for yourself, it took me 3 tries to build a kernel that booted.

and it means the mainboard is buggy as hell

So there is no LiveCd to test out then? That’s alright I will try out something and stick with it until I get used to it. Then, I will jump into Gentoo since I have heard good things about it. Again I really do want to learn linux

do you think this is the processor?

can’t say that I built the kernel the first time either, but the kernel faq on the forum indicated what to do

anyone know of an overlay gimpshop 2.2.11 ebuild would be in?

if i recompile my kermel will i have to do anything to X11 or kde?

no

wesolek, no, buggy mainboard

sonokamome, that’s definitely the way to look at it. A friend of mine always used to tell me that if you wanted to learn how to use a distro, use that distro…but if you wanted to learn linux you should use Gentoo.

maybe reinstall your graphic drivers
who wants to try to give me some adive :0

Yeah I was trying to get the Opengl screen savers to work and they would not

no

I must not have something working correctly

What’re you telling the poor guy to do to his kernel now?

do I need the xserver?

Direct Rendering may or may not be affected though

vantage, you could always try deleting net.eth0 and then emerge baselayout

Monkeh, I’m trying to get his dmesg output now

lol monkeh….

I already gave him a working kernel

Monkeh, btw, do you per chance know, what is broken there?

Minimal, but bootable and functional

okay

With it locking up due to 8139too?

w/o 8139too, yep?

thank you friendly

No, with.

sloloem what else is included in baselayout will it mess up other configuration files?

how do you burn a music CD with the gnome CD/DVD burner?

Monkeh, yes, could you tell?

It’s a simple kernel option. PIO instead of MMIO. One of the 8139too options.

I will have to compile twice i believe

ahha

monkeh, and I can’t get the system to start up I knew I’d screw it up

what I did suspect, broken MMIO :|
wesolek, hmm, you’re a bit out of luck

Which is set in the kernel I gave him, the config of which should be used for any other kernel

you need to replace the module

I am going to try to use gensplash, but it told me i had to compile first

and thank you sololme
later

which will be a tiny bit harder now that you don’t have a network connection

vantage, looks like all the basic stuff in /etc, /lib/rcscripts, some other junk. You could run equery f baselayout and look for yourself if you have baselayout

He cam just boot off the CD I made for him..

COULD someone be kinda enough to show me there /etc/init.d/net.eth0 and /etc/conf.d/net im almost postive its notthe net configu cause it should work if oneisnt present

wesolek, hmm, so why not use it?

I did

sloloem where is $IFACE defind?

vantage, /etc/conf.d/net.example
read it

i know
i have….

w/o any config file, it should use dhcp
wesolek, well, where does it fail then?

yea thats what i said

is it possible to change distros once installed?

the system on hdd?

yes

brandon_, hmm, very hard

let’s now reboot, astorm

wesolek, where does it fail? Boot from hdd, or the livecd?
ahha

now boot from the hdd

so the system from hdd fails
you have to boot the livecd and reconfigure the kernel on hdd

Astorm wanna do me a favor

to twiddle the option
vantage, why not
I can paste my config

can you paste your /etc/ ahah thanks

(sans wlan password)

What, you’re using WEP?

init.d/net.eth0

astorm… I simply don’t know how to do that…. do you want that dmesg output?

vantage, http://pastebin.ca/622793
vantage, /etc/init.d/net.eth0 should be linked to net.lo
like this:

Wow if you configure your kernel yourself it compiles so much faster!

ln -s /etc/init.d/net.lo /etc/init.d/net.eth0

ok guys… thanks a lot for your help and sorry for wasting your time… I need to go to bed now

thanks

wesolek, uhm, I don’t need it
check out genkernel documentation
there is an option to use menuconfig with it
there, I can tell you which option to change

Pff, no need to use genkernel

anyone know why when i try to digest an ebuild it won’t get the version # right to fetch the package?

Monkeh, uhm, he does it teh handbook way ;P

He just needs to take the config off my kernel and add any needed bits (SDHCI etc)

Monkeh, or just tweak the PIO option in the default genkernel config
:P

I used genkernel the first time and it took a very long time i just did it manual and man its so freaking fast

ASTORM i was kinda hoping for /etc/init.d/net.eth0 but i have a feeling its gunna be the same it only messed up when i updated it with etc-update

genkernel is bloated and annoying, vs my perfectly working kernel which just needs a few thigns added :P

vantage, you should link it to net.lo

jesus

Monkeh, … Kernel that loads just what it needs isn’t bloated :P
it might be slower too boot though

does there exist a simple, semi-intelligent, multiplatform file synchronisation tool?

*to

Yeah, and it takes ages to compile

adante, yep, rsync

There are literally hundreds of drivers in the kernel, and genkernel builds them all. Only a handful apply to each machine.

I know, still, it’s newbie-friendly

astorm yea im gunna give that a try , im at a friends house cause the was teh only comp on my network at he moment

so no one knows about ebuilds?
sheesh

hm?

why when i try to digest an ebuild it won’t get the version # right to fetch the package?

I like newbie friendly things

Correction: You got the version wrong

craptasm, my firefox won’t start

is rsync able to stop if the same files have been edited independently?

pastebin the ebuild.

adante, uhm, no

astorm i still dont think thats the problem because ive tried to start net.lo to it just doesnt recognize net.eth0

it’s not for collaboration

k, 1 sec

you want some svn, git, or other RCS

it’s actually just not outputting it in the wget

vantage, not start
symlink

i don’t want full blown version control

hey guys, is it possible that mandriva distr. would work? or it doesn’t matter what I try to load?

I gave you the command even

Any distro with the right kernel option set will work.
That is not many.

wesolek, uhm, you just need to fix the kernel

yea i know to link files okay ill go home and give it a shot thanks

just something between, which seems closer to synchronisation than a repos

Should I upgrade to the 2.6.22 (~x86) series on my laptop?

wesolek, it should be possible to fix it from livecd
either manually, or with genkernel

Not unless it has something you’ll benefit from

http://rafb.net/p/tGVgir94.html

astorm, monkeh did it for me last night, I have no clue how to do it on my own

will, you can try it, why not
wesolek, hmm, there is a howto on gentoo.org for that

I loaded genkernel, but there were so many options, I just don’t know these things so I left it as it was

will, shouldn’t break – and you don’t have to remove the previous version
wesolek, ah, I can tell you which option to switch
it’s just one that prevents the boot

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

it’s starts booting up, but then it says something about a wrong format or something like that

wesolek, hmm?

I would like to use uvesafb, but I also don’t know how much I’d have to re-emerge (laptop-mode-tools, hdapsd, tpctl)

hold on, let me boot up from the hdd

is uvesafb the new user one?
aint it slower than h/w ?

uvesafb sounds like… GREAT NEWS
why didn’t I hear about it earlier?

now my hosting provider suggests doing the gentoo install from a minimal centos install

well that was the problem I came here with tonight

hello how can i configure the keys on my keyboard (volume up, down, mute, etc etc) with kde?

anything you see?

Gimme a minute

but I guess it drifted off somewhere else by the time you joined in, astorm

heh.

wesolek, it’s probably wrong /etc/fstab

you actually could do it from your full centos install, if you’re willing to get a bit funky with the RAID configuration.
it’s a RAID-1, right?

yeah i’m mailing them back about the RAID .. thats my only concern
RAID-mirror whatever that is

I have all of my HW working (acpi, cpufreq, hw acceleration, sleep, wireless, etc), I assume a new kernel version will break this?

astorm

and then that the file system couldn’t be fix – astorm… let me run the newer kernel

good. force one of the drives out of the array; partition it, set it up with its own separate RAID-1 device (with the other drive, which will still keep CentOS on it during the install process, marked as missing) marked as missing; do your whole gentoo setup on the new drive, boot onto it, and after you’ve done that successfully, add the CentOS drive to the mirror with the Gentoo on.
s/on.$/one./

wesolek, you really have to modify /etc/fstab as it should be
it’s somehow broken on your machine

good idea

that is not surprizing at all

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

should I boot up monkeh’s cd and then mount the / drive? and chroot?
astorm

wesolek, yep

I’ll give it a go then

Could you put that ebuild somewhere which doesn’t screw it up?

nm i got it working somehow
errr, or i thought i did
where should i paste it?

You don’t want to paste.

wahts a small program
I can test distcc with eemrge
to make sure its workiong properly?

?

Just one more question, after i recompile a kernel, I just want to know what other commands i need to do? I have to add the modules to the make.conf and thats it? Do i have to change grub at all?

You need to upload it somewhere.

Is there a way to control an ATI card’s fan speed much like you can control an NVidia card’s using nvclock?

ok I’m in, astorm

http://www.speedyshare.com/993871629.html\
http://www.speedyshare.com/993871629.html

Works fine.

astorm, can you help me modify it?

it’s not here… wth

I see it’s not right

4 (348.01 KB/s) – `/usr/portage/distfiles/gimpshop-2.2.11.tar.bz2′ saved

wesolek, well, change the /dev/ROOT to your / device
the same which you have mounted to get there
set the filesystem correctly too

did you compile the kernel with genkernel?

(it’s most likely ext3)

it fails with this: http://rafb.net/p/XSAGqg63.html

I have a multipart 7zip archive with two parts, one ends in .7z.001 and the other .7z.002. When I run “7z x” on the first one though, the resulting file is a corrupt .7z file that can’t be read. It should extract a .iso fiile though! How can I get my .iso out of the two-part 7-zip archive?

see how the pkg name and the versin are completely missing?
wtf?

astorm, should I leave it noauto,noatime ???? and some strange numbers? 1 2 or 0 1???

I’l kicking myself for not knowign about module-rebuild populate…

something is very wrong on your end. It works here (though that file is nowhere to be found)

all my other custom ebuilds and portage ebuilds work fine

wesolek, yes, you can
the numbers are required

Well whatever ebuild you just sent me is not the one you’re using.

does it mean anything? astorm?

whats a small app? i can test out

sendmail help please. I’ve got a sendmail running off my localhost. When I try to sent a message by telnetting to the localhost 25, it works.

distcc?

yeah it is, i even downloaded the one i sent you just in case

wesolek, of course, they do
man fstab will tell you

but when I use “mail -s” it doesn’t work.

can someone give me the iso download that would work the same as i386?

The line to download the gimp-help tarball is commented out in the ebuild you sent me..

will it mount as it is? astorm?

yeah, that’s cuz i commented it out

….

wesolek, maybe

cuz it wasn’t working on either of them

Which means it won’t try to fetch the file, and it thus works fine.
If you uncomment it.. it just tries to fetch a file which doesn’t exist

I can’t tell without seeing it

lol astorm, can I just type auto to all of them? except the swap

Downloading ‘http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/gimp/help/testing/gimp-help-2-0.9.tar.gz

yeah, but with it commented, it won’t
with or without, it’s not working here

It works fine with it commented.
If you uncomment it, you’ll have to point it to a file which exists.

Can someone get me a correct link to i386 gentoo?

shm /dev/shm tmpfs ……. should I leave it?

should be comments explaining it
and yes, if you don’t understand something, it’s generally best host to leave it alone

reisio… then I probably shouldn’t be installing linux at all

hi all, this is my first time configureing a wireless ethernet card. lspci shows the device, however iwconfig says that eth0 (wired), lo, and sit0 have no wireless extensions. I’m not sure that all this means

let’s not get silly :p

wesolek, should work, yes

I am serious… I can’t get it to work

check that fstab 3 times
the /dev/… entries should be correct

TheLorax, You probably don’t have drivers for it.
quinton_, What do you mean?

how can you copy and paste in a putty shell?

app-misc/screen

well… like i need a 32 bit install for gentoo?

+hlieberman, yeah most likely. I didn’t install any, just started the wireless howto. Are the drivers in the kernel?

quinton_, the x86.

I dont follow reisio

never leave localhost without it :p

TheLorax, Depends on the card, and how you built your kernel.

oh thats what it is?

ok it booted without mounting the network, but it may change once it’s connected to the wire

oh, emerge -atv app-misc/screen

astorm

it helps with things like copying & pasting without a mouse

wesolek, ok, check it out then

hlieberman, I built it manually. lspci says “Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG.

quinton_, Yes. x86 is what you want for a 32 bit install, in all likelyhood. for i386, yes.
Ahh.
mzbot, wiki host TheLorax 3945ABG

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_W5F

ok brb astorm

hlieberman, cool thanks.

thanks im going to give it a whirl have a bunch of modules to add

just give a yell if you can’t figure it out via the man page, et al.

TheLorax, Er… http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_ipw3945 is a better link.

starting backup

hlieberman, I got to that page from the one you gave me anyway

TheLorax, Did the same thing I did.
TheLorax, Don’t bother with the iwlwifi. Just stick to the simpler (but not necessily better) mess that is ipw3945

ok it boots up without any errors astorm

hlieberman, was about to ask.

still far away from what I had in mind though
thanks monkeh, astorm… I need to hit the hay if I don’t wanna loose my job lol

hi
can i delete the /portage/distfiles
are those the actual applications?

Those are downloaded source tarballs; you can safely remove them. (They will be downloaded again if needed.)

that’s so much sound like pkgsrc
distfiles

thank u
can i run gentoo on a 4 gig drive using slug..
i think its a bit low lol
debian was workign kinda well with ti..

using iwl3945 at the moment, seems fine, but no LED lights

friendly12345, But it’s not in portage.

negative
hardmasked, but in portage

teach EnterUSerName about distfaq

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#distfiles

friendly12345, my LED worked in ubunut

can recommend resources that will show me how to correctly emerge java and jdk?

gentoo white_rabbit_obj java hosting guide

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml

guys, anyone knows where i get mercury msn to install at gentoo?

if you’re just after browser plugins, just keep an eye out for ‘java’ and ‘nsplugin’ USE flags

no, I’m talking about the driver for 2.6.22 kernel and above

eh?

I’ve been through the gentoo guide a few times already, but I get an error when I run javac

ntie nite astorm, monkeh

white_rabbit_obj u installed a jdk already?

reisio, do u know?

I didn’t understand your question

well, I think I’ve installed a couple out of frustration
at one point I had 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 at the same time

friendly12345, I have no idea what you’re talking about then

but compile your java code online didn’t work

white_rabbit_obj check out java-config-2

media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1 failed.

reisio, where does i obtain the mercury?
it’s a msn client

www.mercury.to
it is not in portage

dont have in portage

^[[32;01m*^[[0m Checking for suitable kernel configuration options...
^[[31;01m*^[[0m ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.

ah, 1min

Isnt that what I am supposed to do?

does have any overlay that contains it?

/usr/lib/jvm/sun-jdk-1.6

that might do the trick -- I just cleaned out all of my previous jdk installs so that I can restart this guide from scratch, but I think that's a good place to start troubleshooting

white_rabbit_obj its prob not the "right" way but it works

http://xrl.us/24rf
wiki bonesss 3rd party

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds

Well maybe there will be more peeps around tomorrow to help with sound support
Cya tomorrow :0

alright, I'll have to give that a try...I fine with just getting it to work

I tried install x86 gentoo install... it runs alot of text and never boots an install screen of any sort?

white_rabbit_obj javac -version returns javac 1.6.0_02

have you read the install guide?

errrr on the gentoo site?

yeah

Minor723, don't use the alsa-driver package, use the in-kernel drivers

No to gloat (ok I am a bit), I'm very glad I picked up this Thinkpad R50, I have everything working except hibernation (not going to bother with this) and the fans, any ideas?

will, Have you looked at the thinkwiki?

that's good to know too...for a while I was thinking that maybe there was a problem with the java 1.6 compiler

will, There's an entire wiki dedicated to installing Linux on Thinkpads.

ok, the upgrade to 2.6.22 may fix this anyway

what would be the quickest command-line method of checking why a particular package is masked?

will, cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan might have some useful info.

emerge -pv =product-version ; but am curious is eix, herdstat, or any others also read this information ...

timotheus, grep -C (some number) (package) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask

what is a good gnome torrent program?

hlieberman, there is no ibm/fan

run mldonkey and use its web interface
get mldonkey (protocol handler plugin for firefox that adds clicked links to mldonkey server queue)

hlieberman, any /proc/acpi/fan/ is empty

far and away the best solution i've found

will, Oh. Never mind then.

is qt a real long compile?

long enough

woot woot back online

expect at least say 30 mins if you've got a fast machine

took about 20 mins on my athlon xp 2400+

fun
im short on ram and have 2.4ghz p4
I need to get more ram :/
thanks for the estimates though

qt and kde are among the most memory hungry compilations :-)

way up there with app-suck/alzheimers

^ ^

kde rocks

just to make sure that it takes longer I have 3 emerges going in diff terminal windows at the same time

pumice rocks

see if I can burn up the swap space

'updatedb' :p

hmm, never noticed that on the tree :P

maybe you don't have slocate, etc.

no, app-suck/alzheimers

you must have just forgotten

hehe

way to brutalize the fantasyworld :p

I am getting ready to emerge X, I would like to know how to make it install the nvidia legacy driver instead of the nvidia driver
got a gf4mx440 8x agp card

emerging X doesn't emerge nvidia drivers, unless the open source ones...

yes it does
[ebuild N ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 6,328 kB
part of emerge -avp xorg-server
now – how do I handle this?

look at your video_cards in /etc/make.conf

I did, its set to nvidia – is there an nvidia-legacy setting?

gentoo GeeBus nvidia guide

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

? xorg config

If you just emerge the legacy drivers manually, it should work fine

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

GeeBus logged off?

im here

my auto-complete isn’t working — hehe
if you mask x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers then xorg-server ebuild will pull in legacy

my video card might work with the regular drivers

what’s a good program to manage wireless network connections with in kde?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html

I would expect so for Geforce 4 ; I think only GeForce 2 and older are “legacy”

I was pretty sure my card was too old for the reg driver
maybe its just the beta drivers I cant use, and I dont care about those
bmaybe its just the beta drivers I cant use, and I dont care about those/b
NICE thank you timotheus
theres hope for me yet

actually, I think the newer drivers killed TNT, and everything /before/ GeForce

Is there a program like PeerGuardian for linux?

how do I get a kernel dump to inspect with gdb later?

Smak, azures, or whatever has a plugin for it

does gentoo’s mplayer really not have a gui

brandon_, look up gmplayer

there are core dump options in the hacking/debug section of the kernel config

need gtk use flag for that iirc

azures keeps bugging

definitely off by default, will need to custom compile

anyone familiar with domain name server?

brandon_ is it a text problem by anychance?

have to enable the ‘gtk’ USE flag

let me check my options…

wiki brandon_ emerge mplayer

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Emerge_MPlayer

this one, net-dns/bind

i’m actually on debian, but i think i’m going to switch to gentoo

thinkin’ again?

you use gmplayer, not mplayer

yeah, right after i’m something close to fully configured

has anybody ever had any problems with azureus text being all messed up?

gmplayer being the exec name, not another package

jesus

although there are many other frontends to mplayer

is there a way to get rsync to work over ssh on a nonstandard ssh port?

(3rd party)

how do you make startup scripts for programs?

like to do what?

like gmplayer -nogui

you want to run it from what – a term?
from a DE?

–port perhaps

not entirely sure myself … gmane.linux.kernel.kernelnewbies is a good newsgroup/mailing list to try

decent shells support aliasing (to run from term)
decent DEs support basically the same thing
how did you do it in Debian?
probably the same way :p

ok, yes apparently it is -P for scp and and -p for ssh

if not that, -e ’ssh -p portgoeshere’ or similar

I take it back, it didn’t work

what didn’t work?

gmplayer -nogui

try: mplayer

doesn’t sound like something that should work :p

that didn’t work either

is there a better way than messing with /etc/conf.d/eth* to seutp things like WEP keys, ESSIDs, etc?

hm

what exactly are you trying to do?

just run mplayer without the skin window controls

how do i get rsync to… sync stuff?

how do you not? :p

mplayer w/o the g should do that, unless you have GUI explicitly in ~/.mplayer/config

when i try rsync -various-elaborate-arguments host:/home/adante/src/asdf /home/adante/src/asdf it says: skipping directory /home/adante/src/asdf

what’s the command you’re using?

brandon_, if you’re playing a movie, you can just type in mplayer path/to/file and you’ll only get a window, no gui controls

rsync -av –dry-run ….

try it, you’ll get an error in terminal, no such command type of thing

then remove –dry-run if its output looks right

works for me

so -nogui in config

what’s the command you’re using?

are you saying that this returns an error? which mplayer

mplayer -nogui file

where are you getting ‘-nogui’ from?

oh praise the lord, thanks

‘mplayer file’

huh, why would mplayer pull in sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1?

no, just terminal

gentoo jsin2e gcc upgrade

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml

http://pastebin.ca/622847

I believe I have gcc 4.1.2 now

need libstdc++
erm
libstdc++-v3

terminal
should i try it from config?

what about terminal?
the command you want is ‘mplayer file’ – for example: mplayer ~/music/galaxy_bounce.mp3

I believe there play also…

right, and what about the gui?

what about it?
you tell me
do you want to use the gui or not?

no i do not want to

then ‘mplayer foo.mp3′ like I said

so, if I emerge libstdc++-v3 I should be able to avoid emerging the entire gcc 3 package?

but then the control window shows up!
i found it
it’s -vm
don’t know what it stands for though

virutal module?
virtual nmachine?

virtual memory

i’m not sure, but it hides the control window
very minimal
there we go
shoot, but the command doesn’t work in config

adante, have you looked at unison?

that was actually my first choice, but trying to get it to work in windows, over a ssh connection, seemed to be the farthest thing from ’simple’ that i could fathom
docs suggested installing cygwin and getting it to work with openssh, and which point i figured well hell, now i have cygwin i’ll just use rsync

adante, right i missed that requirement :-/

bug 184575

https://bugs.gentoo.org/184575 tri, P2, All, gentoo@profvince.com-security@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, FIXED, net-irc/xchat security flaw in new scrollback/text replay feature when joining channels with a slash

as it turns out unison has a cygwin package so merhaps i’ll try that next time, depending how adventurous i feel

after editing zone file, how do i activate it?

what is the keyboard shortcut to adjust volume in mplayer

/ and * on numpad is one set
wiki brandon_ multimedia keys

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys

might prove useful

does mplayer always start with 100% volume?

starts with what you last used

rndc reload

cool
this is working really well

indeed

Hey guys, I have a couple issues with my mplayer. 1) I can’t get it into full screen mode (the window will maximize, but the video stays small) 2) I can’t figure out how to configure loop mode for the gui

is there any standalone menu program?

check your video output options

where?

to be used with…?

in mplayer/gmplayer

check your -vo

hi

‘lo sarts

I’m using the gui version. so I’m not sure where to configure it…

reisio boss i’m using a wm with no menu
lol

it’s a conf file, 1min
which wm?

all i got is a terminal window and pypanel
well beryl with pypanel and urxvt

I’m having a bit of trouble setting up NXbuilder… I can’t get the Setup.php part to work… I fill in the data on the page, but when I click accept, it tells me: “Cannot write dump file”

no de

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/faq.html#id2554511

hehe, there are only two times when i run out of cpu-cycles… when simulating brains and installing gentoo…

Comments off

chx moving the block admin functions into the inc file seems to have screwed fAPI where it was expecting these

instead of $active[] = $row['id']

update?

update is Updating your modules can be found at http://drupal.org/update/modules

thanks, let me try

that wasnt for you that was for me
I was trying to see what happened to PHP Input format in HEAD

it doesn’t work either, i don’t know it can’t be such a difficult thing

well, my test server is HEAD (drupal 6) and some seems to have nicked the php services Input format type, where did that go?
(makes doing quick test stuff harder as you have to code a module rather than a snippet)
I dont have time to start knocking up modules to test wee bits

true, any checkbox is checked

because teh #default_value array is not an array of binary flags, try to loose that from your thinking. It should be an array of option key values
but my test server is borked for me to try samples right now
anyone know where the PHP input format went in HEAD?

Separate module

hmm, then that needs adding to http://drupal.org/update/modules as it doesnt seem to mention that going
actually, no, doesnt need to be there
but a few will be shocked after upgrade

this should work http://pastebin.com/m7e9fb581
now try to port it to your code

Arancaytar, any idea of the module name?

ping

Hi

Zlender_, thats what my pastebin did using his own keys, oh well, cant test it

oh yeah Zlender_ your example works very good
i am going to try to start to work from this point

m1n1, then, you should see its the key values you need, right
?

yeah

pong

array(),”

if i remove it, what ajk^ told me at first would work -_-!

lol, oh well got there in the end, thats the important thing

haha, yeah, thanks a lot for you two

pm?

sure

whoops
block admin in HEAD is somewhat borked

http://drupal.org/user/163778

thx

this guy…
…. i banned another acc of him

oh yeah, pointed that out a while back
chx, moving the block admin functions into the .inc file seems to have screwed fAPI where it was expecting these “common” form functions to exist?
bchx, moving the block admin functions into the .inc file seems to have screwed fAPI where it was expecting these “common” form functions to exist?/b
actually, me neither, let me look at it more
chx, here’s what I get when trying to list blocks:-
call_user_func_array() [function.call-user-func-array]: First argument is expected to be a valid callback, ‘block_admin_display’ was given in /usr/home/ajk/WS/DRUPAL/DRUPAL-6/drupal/includes/form.inc on line 251.
seems the block admin inc file isn’t loaded
hmm

that would be the problem then

just trying to see why menu isn’t loading it, it appears it should be

‘cos you forgot to rebuild you mrnue

need to rebuild menu after a fresh install?
hmm, forget that, it’s not a fresh install, it’s a cvs up

bingo.
when developing core
it’s advisable to have a menu_rebuild right before the menu_exec call in index.php

thx, pretty useful piece of advice
now all I need to do is figure out which contrib module was the benefit of core throwing the PHP Input format away
bnow all I need to do is figure out which contrib module was the benefit of core throwing the PHP Input format away/b

Comments off

i have moved my gentoo installation to another hard drive which now has 4 partitions the boot swap root and an

gentoo has far nicer support

whoa – don’t know what I did. I was able to get it to fullscreen by selecting gl2, but then my entire X crashed on me

nicer compared to what?

fullscreen video and X sometimes do that

so I should be using fullscreen at all?
*shouldn’t

no no
my point in saying that was to set your mind at ease
that is a common bug
not like super common
but invariably anyone using fu….
fullscreen mplayer and X will occasionally run into it
BAH

damn! did it again in double size
I think you were about to tell me something and I got dropped…

but invariably anyone using fu….
fullscreen mplayer and X will occasionally run into it
BAH

yeah
my point in saying that was to set your mind at ease
it’s a common bug – not really common, but invariably using mplayer fullscreen and X you will occasionally run into it
oh whoops :p
sarts++

so is it a bug with mplayer? Would it work fine in kplayer or any other?

it’s a bug with X and fullscreen video, AFAIK

I meant mplayer only?

granted, I’m no expert :p
if you’re nice to them, it won’t usually happen

Ah, thanks

if you’re trying to task between your desktop and fullscreen video like crazy, it might get confused and freeze

nice to who?

to get kdm to load on boot, would I just rc-update add kdm default
?

mplayer and X

it can be safer to start a video playing in a window, and just hit ‘f’ if you want it fullscreen

yep

no

oh
:p

/etc/conf.d/xdm
you only add xdm to your runlevels
xdm is not just a DM, but also X’s DM usage backend

right… that was it…

You have to edit /etc/conf.d/xdm at the bottom and make DISPLAYMANAGER=”kdm”

what is afaik

then add xdm to default

ty fiveflat

as far as I know

bbl

thanks for the help! I’m out…

folks!
Do I need a world rebuild after upgrading to glibc 2.6?

85 done, 30 to go…
4 * sarts is watching his emerge xorg-x11 passing
^ ;-)

http://wklej.org/id/fa4510d6ae
Huh.
Next problem :/

? gcc upgrading

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
a href=”http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml”http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml/a

Alright and just one more thing. I would like ndiswrapper module loaded auto on boot, would I just add: ndiswrapper to : /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ?

really shouldn’t be running ~testing if you can’t answer that question yourself


I have a problem with dev-perl/TermReadKey-2.30 leaves east error to me GCC-config error: Could not run/locate i486-PC-linux-gnu-GCC that I can do?

reisio, just wanted to make sure that it was required before actually doing it
was hoping this time it would be painless

?

WaR^DoG: mmm, paste your /etc/make.conf and the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo somewhere
WaR^DoG: rafb.net/paste

ok

hello guys, yesterday I left my computer working (emerging gnome) then when I return I see it turned off… (I have a laptop) can someone tell me why it closing itself all the time?

_nightw0lf^: having temperature problems?

modern hardware turns itself off if it’s overheated, but it could be something else

the make.conf
http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html
a href=”http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html”http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html/a

sarts, well I hope not.. how can I check it?

hmm

!google hardware sensors site:gentoo-wiki.com

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Sensors

after installing, and rebooting what is the default user that is assigned?

syslog?

clear

root
:p

i can’t chnage my passwd.. ger

sarts, when I touch my computer from behind I feel warm tho (I know it sounds gay :P )

and the cpuinfo http://rafb.net/p/R1xTWh50.html

ask a question and change your nick, nice

_nightw0lf^: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THR0/temperature

did you use the installer or follow the handbook?

you might want to do a modprobe thermal’
;-)

92 C

http://wklej.org/id/05cd40e768
Can You see this X log?

_nightw0lf^: that would be bad

handbook, an i’m using a new client with different interface so my nick changes

what is the most common or best music player now a days sense xmms is old

the handbook explains how to setup an initial user

afaik, they don’t make consumer-cpu’s that are designed to become that hot.

mplayer, since forever

i just need root access..

audacious is a maintained fork of XMMS, though, you might like it

sarts, any advice how can I make it cooler? its a laptop

There are a number of alternatives depending on what you’re looking for. I prefer amarok (KDE based)

vantage, rhythmbox for t3h w1n
:}

Ok I’m trying to get my ndiswrapper module to load automatically on boot, however when I added it to modules.autoload, it didn’t work

_nightw0lf^: gently screw it open and clean the dust from the fans.

Exactly what file did you add it to?

you might find there is no airflow between the fans and the cooling-block on the cpu.

- /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 AllenJB

sarts, I’m afried..

it is the build log http://rafb.net/p/VX7RCo97.html

(don’t worry about breaking anything, just remember that when it does not come off you missed a screw)

sarts, there should be some fun system that connects to mobile computer and cool it no?

Check the output of “dmesg | grep ndis” to see if there was any attempt to load it at all

WaR^DoG: not sure about that one, hit up bugs.gentoo.org

there are, but if this is what i think it is, it won’t wotk in this case.
do you still have warranty?

hum
ok

ok maybe it was loaded, however it was never initiailized via dhcp
iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxxxx && dhclient

_nightw0lf^: think of the following: not doing anything won’t help your hardware either.

You need to configure the device in /etc/conf.d/net, create the appropriate symlink to /etc/init.d/net.lo (eg. /etc/init.d/net.wlan0) and add it to the default run level. Full details on network configuration are in the Gentoo Handbook
Also insure that you’ve configured whatever you use for individual network configuration (eg. wpa_supplicant) correctly – as long as that’s done it should find the right network itself without being told the SSID

sarts, ok at least I know that there is a temperature problem.. is there option to see other temperatures? i.e gpu , cpu , motherboard , hdd etc..

AllenJB, I just do it manually
I dont fuss with wpa_supp
and networkmanager wouldn’t compile

well

Is there a way to get *-sources packages to only keep the latest version?

all your temperature-sensors are located in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
so, you could find THR1 there aswell

I let wpa_supplicant handle mine, which IMO is the easiest way to do it. I can’t really help you further. If you look at the network configuration section in the Gentoo Handbook tho, and /etc/conf.d/net.example, you should be able to set the SSID and start your DHCP client from /etc/conf.d/net

_nightw0lf^: when it happened to me, my laptop was scorching the table.

I don’t believe so. You should be able to unmerge any version that isn’t current by running, for example: emerge -Ca gentoo-sources-current-version-number

hey… a dutch guy.

How do you send a Kill signal to X?
I need to kill my X server because it keeps locking up after my drivers are loaded.
Ctrl+alt+del just brings you back to the problem

/etc/init.d/xdm stop ?

what’s the problem?
CTRL_ALT_BACKSPACE kills X

Here is the problem… I can’t get to command line

CTRL_ALT_F1

I keep doing CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and I just go back to start 1
And my ctrl+alt+F* keys take me to a black screen with no command line

try hitting enter when you’re there

It is my fault… I have a horrible “hybird” laptop that has a switchable graphics card feature.

‘go back to start 1′ ?
what’s that.

Somehow my back switched to the mobo integrated one, and it really screwed up X

exaplin this switchable graphics feature too, please

bag*
not my back, lol

your bag?
what bag

I have a switch on the front of my laptop that lets me go from a GeForce 6600go to a Intel onboard chip
For power reasons

i’m assuming both are onboard the laptop though?

lol… yeah.
One is a mini PCI-E though

hello

Crap. I guess I will need to get a live cd to get out of this problem

oh ok. so you’ve switched to the integrated one. can you switch it back?

It was a the stupid Ubuntu Studio OS I had on my laptop. I want to remove it and just go with OpenBSD.
orkid, Of course

guys, is there anything I need to know before I start emerging the KDE packages??

orkid, I think switching to it messed it up

Anyone know a good lightweight music player that doesnt need gnome/kde

sumigamer, make sure to do emerge -av kde
sumigamer, And find what you need and don’t need.

mellis, what will that do??

no

gentooNub audacious

read the kde section of the handbook first

did you try switching back to the Nvidia using the switch on your laptop?

tdr, kk ill try it, thanks

im looking for some help with a frame buffer issue , ‘ve read up on forums and everything first but still cant find a reason as to why my frame buffer isn’t working. so if anyone has some time to discuss, or can point me in the right direction for some help, it would be appreciated.

mzbot, gentoo sumigamer kde

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

orkid, Of course

you usually want kde-meta

gentooNub, make sure to check out the audacious-plugins package for flags. btw the mad flag fives you mp3 support

i already have the kde packages ( kdeaccesibility, kdetoys, etc.) on a cd…………

mellis, did you try CTRL_ALT_F1 on both the onboard and nvidia?
….

tdr, is there a site I can check to see what all the flags give me?

orkid, No

/usr/portage/profiles/use.*

put them in /distfile
*distfiles

Triffid_Hunter, talking about the ones that arent in there

try it on both the nvidia and the onboard setting, and see if one of them works

hi guys i dont mean to b a problem but does anyoine here have a demonoid account?

orkid, Aha! Switching to the intel one screws it up enough to where X refuses to start… that is all I need. I just need a command line to transfer off my work and get rid of damn Ubuntu Studio

like what?

anyone got a demonoid account

orkid, How is that for a lesson… break it even more in order to get what you want… lol

needing an invite to demonoid
turkiye

Triffid_Hunter, umm looking at ‘arts jack musepack pulseaudio sid tta wavpack wma’
Think I know what some of them do but yeah..

not really breaking anything. why would you think so?

orkid, I know… I just needed X to not come up… and I got what I wanted.

anyone here got a demonoid account

topic please

SORRY

orkid, I don’t need XOrg to back stuff up. Doing that sort of work is hindered by a GUI.

for U in arts jack musepack pulseaudio sid tta wavpack wma; do egrep -h \\b$U\\b /usr/portage/profiles/use.*; done

eyyub93@hotmail.com

Hey, does anyone know what directory I should install flash in for the Opera browser?

yes. but you can get a command prompt faster but flipping a switch and rebooting to see if it works

the ebuild puts it in /opt somewhere

you can also try ‘interactive’ boot. hit I when you see it on boot (there are a few lines about Gentoo copyright, and one that prompts you to press I for interactive startup. Then you can start what you want, and not start xdm

orkid, Really though. I tried everything to exit out of the thing that was causing me problems….

That’s exactly where it was when I #whereis opera but I wasn’t completely sure which of its subdirectories would be the right one to direct flash into.

orkid, I know… this is a laptop with Ubuntu on it. I want to get rid of that junk and get a better operating system. (OpenBSD)

Triffid_Hunter, thansk

equery b libflashplayer.so :P

just so you know, openBSD will give you no DRI, ie no nvidia binary driver

orkid, I am not a newbie dammit… I know

will do…checking

please. reboot and try CTLR_ALT_F1 with both vid cards, or reboot and go into interactive startup, and do NOT start xdm.

orkid, I am already in command line, as I have said! I have solved the problem.

ok. how did you solve it?

orkid, Using the Intel card. I forgot what it had originally done… it would prompt me with the ncurses X debug screen, and all I needed to do was hit “no”

Thanks man for the record its #/opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins

now, if you want OpenBSD you’re welcome at #openbsd. Just know that people there don’t take well to newbie questions, and will very often refer you to the FAQ and other resources on www.openbsd.org. ok, good to hear you go that sorted out.

Now I can setup NFS and start clearing off it’s data so that I can put a much nicer operating system. And don’t worry, who needs 3d Acceleration on a computer you will just be working on…

However, the Flash installer I downloaded from adobe says it doesn’t support Opera.

so. i just installed gentoo. and my friends here who are like “omg gentoo is teh amazing” are distracted. can someone tell me how to download a masked package? i know i am suppose to add something to … package.keywords file?

which package?

pidgin

/etc/portage/package.keywords

man portage for more info
emerge -atv pidgin

sweet, thanks man

np homie #12

you have weird friends
but we’re all weird here

i had ubuntu on here before but some friends convinced me to try out gentoo. it is pretty hardcore.

reisio” Corp, Inc is not weird
Debian, Gentoo, and Slackware are the only distros worth using
all the rest are derivatives, or are crap (using RPM falls into this category)

makes sense. i will say even though i really like ubuntu (waits to be slapped) it has made me really lazy.

no, what you like is GNOME and Debian :p
and possibly brown themes and nipples

hahahaha
i do like gnome a lot
the gentoo wiki is pretty helpful
heh

only a little

no offence, but compiling gentoo packages is a pain in the ass, and ofte not worth the hassle, especially for a desktop system

tdr, hey is there a ogm plugin for audacious?

hi, anyone running baselayout-2 alpha 4? I noticed something odd with depend net and ifplugd…
If I set RC_STRICT_DEPEND=”no”, then net.lo should be sufficient for ‘provide net’, right?

I’ve just encountered a rather strange problem… I swapped monitors (and changed horizsync & verticalthingy variables in xorg.conf), and now whenever I attempt to login, the screen blanks and brings me back to my kdm

anything interesting in the Xorg.log?

open acpi failed?
ahh

client 2 rejected from local host

everything starting with (EE) is bad…

….with uid 1000, my user
there’s no e..
*(EE)
what is that console mouse thing…. wpm?

gpm

console mouse driver?

well, after this emerge sync, I can install that and put the line here
ahh, interesting

/exec -o

should i use -arts if i’m going to try to install KDE or will i be left with absolutely no sound if i do that?

no.
no kde sounds maybe, like those little sounds.
but i use kde without arts. and i use audacious for mp3/etc.
they use alsa, not arts.
in my system.

do i want the little sounds

I might just investigate this a little bit… when I kill kdm, and just try startx I get a (WW) message from the nvidia driver about no matching device section, I’ll check that section

imho, arts is evil and must die

no. it’s not worth it . arts sucks :P

Yes i’ve heard such things… but little sounds!
(apparently gentoo-wiki says to just enable arts on kdelibs and arts and knotify should work properly)

dunno, but if you enable me on kdelibs, i doubt it.

if I have SLI enabled, I shouldn’t need a seperate device section for each graphics card, should I?
(in xorg.conf)

kakalto, aren’t the outputs on the 2nd card disabled when SLI is enabled?

that’s what I thought
as my primary device, and upon starting X, it shows the nvidia logo, then crashes back to the terminal with a warning about the absence of a device section for device
as my primary device, it complains and tells me to use

is there a way to tell the ipw3495 driver to use net.eth1, not net.eth0?

So.. MY mouses 6th and 7th buttons are sending out 2 commands.. any ideas on how to stop this?

wiki gentooNub howto mouse nav

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons

reisio, already done that
thats what got the to send the 2nd msg
s/the/them

Hey.. native english speakers.. is `offer’ or `bidding’ the correct word in business context?

then undo it
depends on the context :p

hannesd, `offer` probably but i need context

reisio, well I want them to use the 2nd button

i have moved my gentoo installation to another hard drive, which now has 4 partitions, the boot, swap, root, and an extended partition. how do i start using the extended partition? do i need to mount it each time i start up my system?

yes. put there are logical partitions in your extended partition i hope.
you should try to mount the extended partition itself

not?

If a customer asks what the realization of project would cost, what is it what you give him, a offer or a bidding?

‘estimate’

a bid

thanks.

if many people are giving estimates publically, it’s a bid
estimate or ‘quote’ (price quote)

ok thanks.

i thought it was usually private.
not public. the bidding.

no, my extended partition is not being used by anything right now. I’m currently using the 3 partitions while on linux, but the extended part is like 80% of the drive, just sitting there collecting dust and i’m running out of room on my linux /root partition, which is why i moved to a bigger HDD in the first place.

if it is binding, it is an offer (not an estimate or quote); on the other hand, estimates or quotes may be either binding or non-binding.
s/not an estimate or quote//
….but offers are necessarily binding.

dude. BID not BIND

ok, so I think offer is the word. thanks.

add the extened to fstab and mount it to /home

an estimate is binding if you cannot take it back. I do mean “bind”, not “bid”.

ah, interseting. that’s what i was looking for. I’ll try it out. Thanks
bah, interseting. that’s what i was looking for. I’ll try it out. Thanks/b

you can take back a bid?
that’s odd

you can take back a nonbinding estimate.

ugh, ok folks, topic, *ahem*

a bid can sometimes be retracted, but that’s dependent on the circumstances.

hello

‘lo woodstock

can someone tell me why my glibc upgrade failed?
http://pastebin.ca/622939

Hello everyone
Does someone know how to make OpenOffice (bin version) take dead keys into account?

replace mtune= with march= in make.conf

“special character” each time I need to insert an accentuated character other than the ones already present on an azerty keyboard…

it’s a really weird bug :-)

whoa o_O
thanks

It _does_ see all characters though, it simply won’t acknowledge dead keys

you look at the flags from emerge -Opv openoffice-bin ?

linguas_fr is activated
All menus are in French and whatnot, all locale settings are correct
But the dead keys are not there

weird

All other apps have no problem with that

I’d ask #openoffice.org

will do, I didn’t know there was such a channel in fact :p

mmmhmmm, complete with ridiculous inclusion of TLD

Maybe it has to do with X configuration, I really can’t tell

Hi there
Does anyone use vmware workstation here?

I do – not very often, but I do

I saw that vmware workstation 6 can use hardware assisted paravirtualization such as intel’s VT

me too, I’m learning SElinux within a vmware VM

but it require VMI 3.0 in kernel [or something else..]
any hint about this? I didn’t see any option like VMI in gentoo-sources

Oh
I use version 5.x, I cannot help, sorry

don’t worry.. anyway I am testing mm-sources, because google said it has a bit of VMI… we’ll see, I’m reconfiguring this kernel after a huge panic LOL

how cool is vmware, i use it to run gentoo and windows development systems inside my gentoo desktop

I _think_ they’re talking about the virtualization interface that was included in 2.6.21

let me see..

xen and virtualbox are quite nice too … vmware isn’t open enough

yeah i might switch one day

http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=696400#696400

xen sounds great for servers .. live migration for free sounds impressive

good to hear :-) vmware was quite tricky to keep running for me

i have a mantra when i start, i recompile the vmware kernel modules every boot .. just ’cause it was easier to write a shellscript to do that than figure out wtf is going on with vmware .. being closed source and all, it is broken and i cant fix it

exactly my experience too

is xen opensourced?

usually deleting /etc/vmware/.not_configured fixes it
yes, but the cool managment tools aren’t

maybe you warezed the same copy i did

xen is the one who takes profit of kernel virtualization kvm or this is what i’ve read

nono, I has correct key ;-)
no, those two are mostly independent afaict

oh me too! i forgot i paid

ermm … ja … let’s not continue that discussion ;-)

GPL-2 license, fwiw

thanks… I’ll reboot now for testing mm-sources.
see ya

anyone know a good stand alone menu program?

what do you mean?

kicker?

i mean if your using a wm doesn’t have its own menu’s

just use a basic wm with menus, i recommend fluxbox for simplicity, but others may differ…

on a someone related note, is it very sensible to try SElinux under a VM?
*somewhat

anyone know why libXtst wants to be downgraded? I can’t find any relevant bugs

heya, im a gentoo newb a need a little help
after updating portage it said thta two files in etc need updating…can someone please tell me how do i do that?

Hi again. a huge panic (reverted to gentoo-sources)

man portage, it explains a ‘find’ command that will give you the answer

no reason why you can’t, but SELinux is more hassle than it’s worth imho

Use a config file management tool – I recommend dispatch-conf, but there’s also etc-update and a number of third party tools

etc-update

i ran find /etc -iname ‘._cfg????_*’ and it does list two files….but one of them is an exmple..is that possible?

wiki Slycer dispatch-conf

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_dispatch-conf

wiki Slycer etc-update

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_etc-update

good for testing / learning

See those 2 pages for information on the tools

wow lots of info :O just tell me this then, is it posssible that the system thinks one of those two files it reproted need updating is an example file
it says i ned to update a disaptch thing and a make.comf.example

so it wouldn’t greatly affect the security function

yes, they don’t keep a list of example files to blindly update

no it would not

make.conf.example is an example file. I’d reocmmend updating it because it’s a useful reference

within the vm no, but since the outside machine isn’t as safe it’s a bit silly
but for learning to use it it’s very convenient

hmm, might try that myself then, just to say how painful SElinux is

dispatch-conf atleast will remember files contents after the first time you’ve update them, and if you tell it to in /etc/dispatch-conf.conf, will automatically update unmodified files

the tools tend to be a bit cryptic

very, good luck

looks to be odd syntax more than anything else

is something that’s like a chain and ball attached to your nuts cryptic?

great thanks guys

heh

and when updating etc files i should “auto merge all remaining files” ?

/odd/quirky syntax

another question about xen, doing an emerge -p xen, it requires xen-sources, but do I have to change my current kernel?

I have a different perspective there
yes

personally I got fed up of having to log in twice to make changes to the system, and sel randomly killing off processes
heh, I take it I don’t wanna know

question – suppose i switch out my CPU to a differnt one so i have to change my make.conf (so my CPU goes from say prescott to dual core). do i have to rebuild all my packages?

you don’t have to

that’s the price of paranoia

well if it is Core (not 2) Duo, you might have to use cflags as prescott anyway

ah

yeah, unfortunately I consider uptime of daemons a security issue too :/

is it a good idea to recompile everything or does it not matter at all?

just using PIE and SSP on a desktop system caused some random process killing, software is insanely insecure

does anyone know how I can clean up the “open with” dialog in gnome?some wine installs have really cluttered the list

ha, really? under “routine” activity?

I had less problems with PIE/SSP actually, with exception of bind, but that is a monostrsity anyway :/

flash gets killed with prejudice on PaX-enabled systems
it’s getting better, I gave up when gcc was uncompilable

Recompile things for the USE flags (and dependency handling), not CFLAGS. If you’re mucking around with CFLAGS for performance reasons (as opposed to ease-of-debugging or such), you’re probably not using your time optimally.

not surprising given the latest vulnerability found

okay
thanks

hehe … understand now why I demand open? ;-)

yeah, I kinda got off hardened too when it’s glibc got left in the stonage and got too old for iproute2 to compile

hmmm is it possible the mesa doesnt actually use fPIC?
prelinking complains about on-PIC shared library /usr//lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1
non-PIC

and oddly enough, nobody has masked the effected iproute2 package in hardened (still), or tried to resolve the problem, I got tired of trying to bring it to people’s attention
band oddly enough, nobody has masked the effected iproute2 package in hardened (still), or tried to resolve the problem, I got tired of trying to bring it to people’s attention/b

gotta do it yourself, eh?

That’s nearly impossible as it works on other arches than x86.

is a person doesnt really know what he needs to pick to add to the USE variable… what to do?

gentoo Slycer use index

http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

rej, hmm sounds sane but it didnt always show that behaviour?
at least at some time in the past it used -fPIC
or had to

mzbot, teach Slycer desktop profile

yeah im reading the same thing in use.desc…but still this is my first time in linux

You’ll want to use the 2007.0/desktop subprofile, not 2007.0 itself, as the later is extremely minimalist USE flag wise. No jpeg support is a common symptom. Use ‘eselect’ to change profiles. You should do an emerge -DuN world at some point after this. (‘mzbot: faq eselect profile’ for more.)

i dont know what i need

It certainly still did last time I compiled mesa on parisc…

hmm ya i dont mind it that much, just makes prelink so verbose

The only thing I can think of is that you have -fPIC in CFLAGS and it gets stripped…

have a look at that list and the descriptions, if you feel like it’s something you might be in contact with on your instaltion, put it in the use flags, for example: if it’s a desktop and you’ll be watching media files then it’s a good idea to add support for different codecs, or if you have a nvidia graphics card then the nvidia use flag is a good idea to include

most home users will want to use the desktop profile, and use -USEflag in /etc/packages.use on a per package basis

does the desktop profile contacin all the things i nned to do everyday stuff?

for grub, do I need that chainloader +1? http://pastebin.com/m1d71e6e5


hello a question that package has glib-config?

WaR^DoG: dev-libs/glib most likely…
WaR^DoG: To be sure, dev-libs/glib does provide glib-config…

see the make.defaults in the appropriate directory within /usr/portage/profiles

are you series with that packages.use proposition? i always had the impression use-flags should by principle rather be set in make.conf than in package.use
serious

friendly12345 is this the correct command ? “ln -snf /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop /etc/make.profile

mzbot, gentoo Slycer upgrading

Has anyone got a hp 5 button mouse working right?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

have installed dev-libs/glib-2.12.11 but I do not have glib-config

I actually don’t use the desktop profile myself, have a whole heap of flags in make.conf and a relatively short listing in packages.use

depends on the use flags, I usually set global ones (meaning those which are listed as global in use.desc) in make.conf and local ones in package.use

WaR^DoG: Re-emerge it, then? I have the same version and /usr/bin/glib-config *is* present…

ok

WaR^DoG: As well as the necessary pkgconfig (.pc) files.

it’s really a question of which will give the least entries, plus save you time when emerging future packages

ok, that’s the way i do it too. still, how would i change my profile?

use eselect

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

welle, there it’s conflicting aims. in package.use it will save compile-time, in make.conf you have it all set for each package ^^

you mean for all packages in make.conf

exactly

you can also add -USEflags everywhere –minus sign)

i re-emerge but i dont have glib-config
$ pkg-config glib
glib-config: command not found
that necessary archives of pkgconfig? rej ?
i have glib 2.0.pc gmodule no export gmodules xport gobject gthread

WaR^DoG: Which version of dev-util/pkgconfig do you have?

i’m trying to delete a folder, but don’t know what’s using it
is there a way to find out

0.21 rej
0.21-r1

ah

friendly12345 im going through that list of use cariables now…i’m im learning to do it im gonna do it from scratch..but
thats a lot of variables..do gentoo users go through this procedure everytime they format?

well, this i use regularly, if some package bitches around with some particular use-flag ^^

“everytime they format”? This isn’t Windows; a properly maintained Gentoo system doesn’t require periodic reinstalls. Also, once we have a set of USE variables, that list is readily reusable across systems.

what i can do? rej ?

WaR^DoG: What does `emerge -vp –nodeps dev-libs/glib` return?

ok then :p

ok

for my workplace, for instance, we have one prototypical make.conf for our desktops, one for our IT servers, and one for our customer servers; they’re established once, and used for all of our (quickstart-based, scripted) installs.

i check .
[ebuild R ] dev-libs/glib-2.12.11 USE=”-debug -doc -hardened” 0 kB

cool

weeee

how do I display the full running process without having the list truncated? I do a “ps auxfw|less” but I still do not get the full command.

hello

WaR^DoG: I can’t think of an explanation, actually. It’s just silly that glib-config wouldn’t get installed.

me too.

having a problem.. i have a realtek 8139 nic in a gentoo box that i’m setting up

hi
what package would i need if i wanted an analog clock for my desktop?

i installed the 8139too and the 8139cp drivers as modules, modprobe’d them but it still says that eth0 does not exist

hey i’m recompiling a kernel and for some reason this time around entfilter is marked as experimental and there is no other firewalling type option visible?

Are you using GNOME? KDE? Something else?

You only need the 8139too, I think.

netfilter, even. does that mean i can leave it out + still use ipchains?

sorry, gnome

installing gentoo on that centos box now

rej, that’s what i thought, and i used that first, but since that didn’t work, i tried the other one too

look into gDesklets.

hello, can you tell me how much swap is recommended for home use? i used to assign double than ram but it is almost all the time empty reaching 80-100mb when using emerge

Does lspci find the NIC?

what i can do? rej ?

1-2 gigs should be enough

yes

WaR^DoG: Post your `emerge –info`

ok

i would reallyyyy make use of that 2 gigs =( Ketarel

you could probably get away with 512 megs if you want

wrt figuring out why kernel options aren’t available, the Kconfig files are your friends.

i wouldn’t go lower than 512 though

ok, Ketarel, thanks, i will try that number!

Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

http://rafb.net/p/ybklqA16.html

err, cant see + no slocate installed but thanks, i’ll check it out later :P

you have a kernel source tree?

yeah i’m in menuconfig atm

“eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc400, `mac address here`, IRQ 10″

there’s a Kbuild but no Kconfig

just use find & grep within that tree. it’s the same info that menuconfig &c. use, but with the dependency logic being explicit.

Identified 8139 chip type ‘RTL-8100B/8139D’”

guys, in cron, is this once a day? * * */1 * * …. ?

where would I extract the desklets I download?

because i’ve got 45,000 emails from cron with it executing every second…

ahh find + grep is too oldschool even for my slackware 3.0-ing self
i’d forgotten

00 00 * * * is once a day at 12 AM

I don’t remember — it’s been ages since I cared about eye candy enough to play with them.

find . -name Kconfig .. LOTS .. one per dir, thanks

what about the one i showed you? what does that do ?

In menuconfig you can press ‘/’ and search for the module you’re after (or another keyword) – this will usually then show you the pre-requisite options for that module

could be the same thing, if it works
or look into @daily

cool, didn’t know that! thanks

Identified 8139 chip type ‘RTL-8100B/8139D’”
oops

heh — I didn’t know about that either; nifty.

?

hi all
I emerged mod_recurity but apache log error log reports “[error] SecServerSignature: original signature too short. Please set ServerTokens to Full.”

bah, help… damn cron filled my root’s email with over 45,000 emails.. is there a quick way to delete them all? pine is getting on my nerves

if your mail system delivers them to your home dir … rm ~/.maildir (or whatever the mail directory is set to)
rm -Rf or whatever, easy to test where they are via ‘du -h -s ~/.maildir’ (summary of disk usage for that dir)

thanks, but i don’t see a .maildir in my root folder

could be called .mail or Mail or something

so, apparently it started the nic and called it eth2
is there a way to change it to eth0 or eth1?

nothing mail related in there

otherwise you can probably find it by doing ‘locate mail |grep root’ (if you have ‘emerge slocate’-d)

hi… how do I save my private gpg key to a file? I’ve read many howtos and they all explain how to export a public key, but then where do I get my private key from?

thanks, it’s in /var/spool/mail/root

they’re created together. usually one is id_rsa, the other is id_rsa.pub

so i just rm -rf /var/spool/mail/root ?

I’m trying to ./configure –prefix=`kde-config –prefix` a kde theme but I get the error bash: kde-config: command not found. any ideas?

if it’s a dir, better to clear the files in there, not the whole dir, maybe

it looks like a file to me

also maybe better to shut down your mail service, rm them, then start it again, i dunno which daemon you use / if it cares though

12 megs

orkid, the instructions I followed suggest that they are DSA/ElGamal encryptions..

ok then shutdown your mail service, remove it, and start it again. you could also just: echo ”/var/spool/mail/root to reduce it to 0 size

thanks bobnormal

no worries

nDuff do the variables in make.conf have to sorted alphabetically?

no.

sorry don’t know. they should be in the directory you made them in.

that said, if you have an editor which will do that for you, it never hurts.

uhm, nano?

rm: cannot remove directory `/var/lib/openwebmail/users’: Device or resource busy and lsof returns nothing

no rej?

anyone point me in the right direction in regards to switching from gnome to kde or fluxbox without shutting down the x jboss server hosting and my running apps?
i know it can be done…

ispy_, ?

basicly i want to switch from my current gnome session to a fluxbox session without closing say pidgin and all my various running x apps.

err, if it can be done, it’s with a lot of difficulty

how would i install an overlay with layman that’s not listed in layman’s list?
a link for rtfm would be enough ^^
google didn’t spit out something useful so far
mzbot teach tomboy64 layman
teach tomboy64 layman

No such faq

pfffft

you don’t
you just add it manually

how many overlays would a layman lay if a laymans overlay got laid

where would i do that so it get updated automatically with the next emerge-sync?
*got
*gets?

ispy_, i doubt that can be done easily

lol

26
I thought layman had its own syncer?

uhhh … yes
but i use eix for syncing

ah, then say so :-)

dunno how that works exactly, though ^^
just read somewhere that eix-sync * updates all overlays automagically
“eix-sync *” that is

PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage — add a line like that to make.conf
did you read it or try it? ;-)

i read it. but i never confirmed it. but now that you say it, i never conciously stumbled over an updated overlay-package …
mhmmmm

hehe

this definitely GOT to get examined

I don’t think eix updates overlays, just the records it has of several popular overlays.

define “records” pls

although a patch and/or feature request for that would be nice …

you are there?

Recent versions of eix can provide information for several popular overlays, even if they’re not actually installed in layman. Hang on and I’ll find the GWN on it

god, I hate media trying to talk about computing/networking, IP address octets don’t up 800 damit!

isn’t there updating, unless you emerge a particular package, then there’s in most cases a CVS update and emerge
*isn’t there no updating

mhmmm gwn … haven’t received a recent one in months
is it dead?

more on a long holiday

maybe ‘week’ is not an Earth week

See http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20061106-newsletter.xml#doc_chap4
Not dead, just hibernating

WaR^DoG: Sending you glib-config is unlikely to help. You need to figure out what is so very wrong with your system…

that solves EXACTLY my next question ^^
tyvm!

i need reinstall ? rej

WaR^DoG: When did you last do an `emerge -vuaDN world`?

Does hibernating Gentoo reserv uptime of the system at all? Or does the uptime counter begin at 0.
0 mins, and such

but …

maybe 4 hours a go

Keith-BlindUser: in my experience it preserves uptime

AT the point of whre you shut it off?
at
Or

(I use suspend to disk on my laptop)

Does it actually keep track of how long it’s been off for?

At the point where it was shut off
As far as I can tell

Well
So
Suppose you shut off your box 5 hours ago.
And
The uptime was
1 day 1 minute
at hte point where you hibernated.
Then 1 day later
You resume
(Sinse) most systems have a RTC that never dies, wouldn’t the uptime be then 2 days or whatever?

Keith-BlindUser: try it ;-)

3 days ago I put the system you think that it agrees to me to reinstalar it? rej

hi

As far as I know, the uptime will be 1 day and 1 minute when I resume. Do note that I could be wrong as I haven’t looked particularly closely at this.

i have problem with new antialiasing (newspr use), anyone who use it here?

WaR^DoG: Which package cannot find glib-config anyway?

I always set it in KDE to use sub-pixel hinting (RGB) and hinting style to Medium. This worked, but i have installed new Gentoo and now does not work
[ebuild R ] media-libs/freetype-2.3.5 USE=”X zlib -bindist -debug -doc” 0 kB
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/cairo-1.4.10 USE=”X glitz newspr opengl svg -debug -directfb -doc -xcb” 0 kB [1]

Hello, does someone know how to remove KWrite from a KDE system?

[ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12 USE=”newspr -debug” 0 kB [1]
I tried downgrading freetype to latest from xeffects, cairo to 1.4.8 libXft to 2.1.11… None helped…

app-office/mdbtools-0.5 rej

WaR^DoG: And does /usr/bin/glib-config exist on your system?

why would you do that ?!

What i can say more?
When i disable antialiasing in KDE then fonts look ugly, but when enable it look prettier, but not the same like looked before. They look like i would have installed both cairo iand libXft with USE=”-newspr” – old antialiasing, but as You can see i have enabled this flag…

This is weird.

I don’t like KWrite, I use Kate

My desktop has an ability to suspend?
But why

anyone?

same thing

It’s nota laptop

but by default my documents open with KWrite

not a

so I’d like to remove kwrite

ah, you want to change the default program
no need for tactical nukes

but it’s part of the kate ebuild

And I have been warned by other linux host folks to not suspend it to RAM or disk. That that will be bad for the desktop’s ram and drive.

hate to tell you, but both use the same kedit component

And shortent he life of the hardware.

it’s two skins for the same editor

ok.

Hello

hi

Keith-BlindUser: Poppycock. It’s not going to reduce the life of the hardware any more than normal use. Laptops have been suspending to RAM and disk for years.

I have the GCC-4.1.2 would have influences that?

It’s a desktop though. lol

Keith-BlindUser: Minimal difference

whats the name of the ati open source driver again? for the old cards?

Keith-BlindUser: A laptop is just a smaller version of a desktop (and a slightly more compact version of a rack server)

WaR^DoG: No, that’s not importaNT.

ls /usr/bin/glic-config
/usr/bin/glic-config: The File or Directory no exist

I translate the error so that my system this in Spanish

WaR^DoG: glic-config?

how will look NAT regule for local network 192.168.1.0/24 connected to router on rl0 and routed via tun0?

WaR^DoG: You want glib-config, right?

yes

start control center, go to kde components, file associations
fix as needed

hey, when booting straight on to a device like ‘mdx’, do i need some sort of ramdisk to initialise the raid array?

sorry

yes

i only have glib-genmarshal glib-gettextize glib-mkenums

that does not really work on my box

is there an easy, well documented, gentoo-style way of doing this?

Why not?

but glib-config not found.

no, you don’t
if all disks are of type fd the arrays will be auto-assembled on boot by the kernel
thus using root=/dev/md0 works quite nicely

i can try remerge pkgconfig and glib

what do you mean ‘of type fd’ ?

WaR^DoG: I thought you had already done that.

or do you mean that partition-type for linux raid autodetect?

or i can reinstall the system lol

exactly

i have some swap partitions as well, is that OK?

err … yes, why?

cannot remove directory `/var/lib/openwebmail/users’: Device or resource busy and lsof returns nothing

if the reboot fails i have to wait 12 hours for my hosting company to fix it
i wouldnt ask otherwise

ah … fail ;-)

yes i can do it rej.

wouldn’t hurt for your swap to be on RAID, btw — increases your chances of the system staying up through a disk failure.

/msg mzbot faq apache1

fuser -v $(find /var/lib/openwebmail/users -depth)

sorry is i did it

it does?

nice idea! i’ll try that.
i guess if it’s raid-chunking mode it might be faster too

idletask, returns nothing

but never it gave glib-config me

aka ’striping’

oh, striping? never mind, then.

kernel already does raid0-like striping on swap

I was thinking you were doing mirroring.

no need to do that explicitly
what, redundancy? fool! ;-)

i have mirroring on my / and /boot, but swap is standard right now
thanks
for a feline you sure know a lot

meow :-)

sometimes, strangely, the changes I make are *never* remembered

:’(

wazzup?

:p

that but it is to do? rej ?

fortunately, the configure-scripts summarize the lack of libnotify-support before i start building.

good morning :-)

hello

hello swiss person!

^^

I’m looking for a pdf reader for a brand new Gentoo install, any recomendations?

how does it feel to miss out on the tour de france by only a few kilometres?

xpdf, kpdf, evince

….

depends a bit on what desktop environment you use

?

guys, can someone please help me configure my alsa sound?

it hurts lol

_nightw0lf^: more precisely?

_nightw0lf^: #1 problem is always the mixer, turn up your volume

at least we have good weather :-)

bobnormal:

at least you’re closer than we australians

bonsaikitten, I’m using Xfce right now, I started out with fluxbox but wasn’t patient enough to work out all the kinks.

you are from swiss too ?

bobnormal, well im not sure it about the volume, when I run audacious and play a mp3 is says that I have no sound or something

eheh

no, just live there ;-)

bonsaikitten, I have AC’97 (HP Pavilion dv4000) intel chip i915

_nightw0lf^: right, you have the i8×0 sound driver loaded?

bonsaikitten, im not sure, how can I check it?

_nightw0lf^: also, don’t buy HP, it’s bad for your mental health ;-)

_nightw0lf^: dmesg |grep 97 .. any output?

okay

hey bonsaikitten

No. You’re not wrong. Linux must not care about the real time clock.
Because
Eaven though the time is right,
It seems to make little difference how long the box is off for.

_nightw0lf^: dmesg |grep 8×0 — any output?
bdf“`: hai :-)

bonsaikitten, i emerged audacious but it doesnt play mp3 , i recompiled it with mad use flag but still no go

http://pastebin.com/m2d704905
bonsaikitten, no output from the 8×0.

and then where do you come from ?

bdf“`: sound in general works?

bonsaikitten, i didnt check hold on

_nightw0lf^: ok, either try modprobe’ing it or baking a new kernel
_nightw0lf^: ah, looks like it’s loaded

not from /root i hope ?

_nightw0lf^: start alsamixer

bdf“`: Remerge audacious-plugins, not audacious.

hehe

moin

Monkeh, aaah alright thanks

function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device

_nightw0lf^: that is suboptimal :-) means alsa claims there is no soundcard

alsa problems suck.

got a problem booting a livecd, it says “The root block device is unspecified or not detected.”

is there a way to mount a windows mobile device? It should have a filesystem like thingy, i do get it in windows. don’t see it reporting a usb disk device or something tho’

those problems suck too
(the livecd boot problems)

lol too right

hey dudes, how can I test my memory ?

never had it before though

bonsaikitten, I need to run alsaconf? I made it already tho..

cat /proc/devices |grep sound ?

memtest86

memtest, I think its an option ont he livecd

_nightw0lf^: i think you need to massage your kernel a bit
interesting idea

this ac97 system has no dmesg output .. but sound works fine
sound is in /proc/devices though

thanks

bonsaikitten, I’ve compiled alsa in kernel build in, and the ac’97 drivers too.

Is thre some reason Linux does not regard the real time clock?
is there

compiling first kernel …. *clenches buttcheekes*
:O

TMI

lol

tmi?

too much information.

oh

exactly

well i just thought id share ;P

heh

Monkeh, yea it seems to have worked , downloading libmad

don’t ;-)

heh

uhh guys if i have changed some iptables but NOT saved wats the best way to reverse what I have done?

noone use newspr?

bonsaikitten, i was emerging firefox and flash , both failed, flash failed to download and firefox failed to compile

/etc/init.d/iptables reload ?

i then downloaded firefox seperately and then installed

bdf“`: flash fails, yes

flash need to regenerate manifest

firefox I’d recommend searching bugs.gentoo.org

good for re-install it is not so bad option of all ways thanks for the help rej

no, there are different broken versions out there

bonsaikitten, ok

macromedia fails hard there

anyone know why livecd doesn’t boot properly please?

i have regenerated digest and works good now

bonsaikitten, can i download flash seperately and then use it ? no problem in doing that is it ?

bonsaikitten i’ll do my best not to in the future ;PP

yeah, you have a version with a security hole now :-D
bdf“`: well, at the moment you can’t trust macromedia to hand you a good file

bonsaikitten, so for flash what should i use ?

bonsaikitten, what I need to do in my kernel?

Keith-BlindUser: Is there some reason you particularly want it to? I would assume it’s some decision made either by the kernel developers of the uptime facility or the developers of the suspend2 code

bdf“`: wait :-)

heh…

because , some sites are flash based they just wont come up bonsaikitten

what about antialiasing?

bonsaikitten, alright

anyone use it?

can I run it in my running system ?

_nightw0lf^: you need to check that alsa is there and “intel/amd/via AC97″ sound driver is there too

bonsaikitten, build in? or module?

bdf“`: you can of course try to download it and install the version oyu get, but I can’t recommend that
_nightw0lf^: both are fine

bonsaikitten, i get it

_nightw0lf^: module has the advantage that you can experiment with it easier, built in tends to work automatically … both good
euphor][a: tried a different livecd?

no

bonsaikitten, and i emerged kde-meta and it doesnt look the same as it used to with fedora , neither the fonts nor the window style , even though i chosed the same style , just for info i used -gtk when i emerged kde-meta

How secure is a normal user if there only in the users group?

honestly, i don't know. i'd doubt it, but didn't find a hint on the homepage.

like how restricted are they

bdf```: yeah, fedora has its own kde hacks, gentoo uses real kde

note though, that i'm talking about memtest86+ here

bonsaikitten, oh thats why , because it looks totally different

bonsaikitten, well both alsa and ac97 are in my kernel.

bonsaikitten, now the sound doesnt work :| , sorry to bug you so much , but how to check whats wrong with it ?

fixed, silly dell bios

bdf```: patience, look at log files etc. and try to see what doesn't work
euphor][a: ah, another silly Dell :-)

heh, dell

bonsaikitten:

friend of mine had to fix a HDD on a dell once.. but the case was rivited together and you couldn't get the HDD out without removing the mobo as well.. so he ended up pushing another tower close to it and hooking up the HDD from there

hey guys....can somene give me an estimate on how much time does it take for the kernel to compile?
just.. "in the vicinity" ... "close to" ... or something :p

a few min

http://pastebin.com/m343114a2

completely depends on your hardware.

P4 2.6

slycer depends on hardware and kernel copnfig

bonsaikitten, what I need to leave there?

_nightw0lf^: experiment around :-)

hi ghotcom

bonsaikitten, hehe

nm...

10 minutes on a 2Ghz dualcore

bonsaikitten, alright ;0

is it env-update then source /etc/profile, or vice versa?

cool, thanks...its been 10 mins now

bonsaikitten... when?

ok

when compiling x86 or amd64?
when compiling whole drivers
or just necessary?

amd64, but times shouldn't differ that much

hi

when building iptables modules?
or not?
when building IPv6 or only Ipv4?

what difference does it make ...

i aaccidently scrolled up, saw you join and say 'hello' ;-)

bonsaikitten i have Athlon64 2528MHz

get more ram and it takes less time etc.

so i thought, lets be polite

and when i enabled IPv6 support it compiled ~5minutes longer

you're welcome

yeah, I have 4G ram, so my times are most likely relatively low

lol
but i don't think he does :P

i have software versioned with 2.3, 2.4, 23000 and 24000, all hardmasked. what would be the correct syntax to unmask only the 2.3 and 2.4 versions?
because i want to downgrade from 24000 (svn) to 2.4 (pre-release)

saying about 10 minutes is rather inexat

=2.4 ?

it gives you a general idea ...

two lines, =package/name-here-2.3 .. and =package/name-here-2.4 .. in /etc/package.mask or keywords or whatever

also on repeat compiles times vary a lot

don't wanna argue... but in my opinion it's hard to speciofy even approximatelly time knowing just CPU clock ;]

bonsaikitten, that’s wired, I had just now sound when loading KDE, but still I can’t play with audacious

what if he compiles 2.4?

no, that doesn’t work.
but that would exclude further updates in that overlay

i guess 2.4 compiles slower than 2.6, doesn’t it?

why not?

*shrug* .. i always do that, it works for me.

got a challenge for you
cd /usr/src/linux && make -j

bonsaikitten, that’s wired, I had just now sound when loading KDE, but still I can’t play with audacious

grrrr wgetpaste is broken :-/

ok, so sound does work a bit

bonsaikitten, lol yea kind of..

any errors from audacious?

sound-daemon-hell–

only thing worse is rpms of sound daemons

http://rafb.net/p/e6njEH79.html

stop swearing ;-)

you have the correct output plugin selected, no other programs are blocking soundcard , your soundcard is configured properly

using arts in kde?

bonsaikitten, dunno..

well, you didn’t say anything about ~ keywords. You just need to unmask that separately.

uhhhhhhhhhhh
oversaw that ^^

bonsaikitten, yea.. arts working with audicous

thank you

np

damn
damn damn damn

bonsaikitten which modules do i want to start at boot? :/

bonsaikitten, that means I will use arts from now on?

i ran /etc/init.d/sshd to test the sshd of my new gentoo on centos thinggy
and it died a horrible death
and i can no longer connect ;(

all you need? ;-)
sorry, mildly distracted

no problem..its just that find /lib/modules/2.6.19-r5/ -type f -iname ‘*.o’ -or -iname ‘*.ko’ doesnt return anything

bonsaikitten, what I should do? :/

did you run make modules_install when building the kernel?
try to think

yeah, i ran make && make modules_install

ah, that path is whack
should be kernel-2.6.19 I think

yeah i guess i just scrolled up and saw that it listed a lot od *.o files
while compiling
nope kernel is 100% 2.6.21

duh …

and i pasted that line from the handbok..i used .21 now but it still doesnt do anything

bonsaikitten, how can I regulate that volume with arts plugin?

not sure

Hi guys, not strictly a Gentoo question, but… I need to ssh to a box that is behind a dynamicIP_ADDR and PPP. Can I connect to it?

arts is an ugly monster

bonsaikitten, I see, how can I make alsa working?

only if the gateway does port forwarding
kill arts and all traces of it maybe?

bonsaikitten, if I will try it on fluxbox that should work no?

I’ve got the ip address host address of the box (with whatismyipaddress.com…). You mean the ppp gateway?
at the ISP?

err … I don’t understand
euphor][a: no cursing in here please ;-)

hehe

euphor][a: Don't bash Dell or Windows please.

hello, i got a problem configuring pppoe. at the beginning i used the pppoe-start and it worked good. now i want the ppp permantly and now i have the following problem: http://nopaste.php-q.net/312038
and yes i included all ppp configurations into my kernel

bonsaikitten do you mind if i paste a link do a screenshot of my problem? i’d really like to get thtought this ;(
in prive that is
private*

I’m a bit distracted

i wont take more than 10 sec :p

feel free

hrm

I mean, who should forward the port? the ISP?
the box I am trying to connect is the actual internet router (I set it up)
is a linux hosting box

the entity controling the externally visible IP

btw is there something to automaticly do screenshots and upload them?

Er, you’re the expert. You tell us.
Did you portforward tcp/22 to the machine that runs the sshd that you want to expose?

Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!…

teach bonsaikitten about german

Fuer deutschprachige Unterstuetzung wende dich bitte an #gentoo.de

=P

The box I am trying to reach is actually the internet router at the office, so I should see it…

rofl

wow mzbot is a cool bot

fail

:’(

You would need to set up the portforwarding on the office router, then.

no, the box running the sshd service _IS_ the router itself.

hey, can someone please take a look at this screenshot http://shrani.si/files/asdf114a5x.jpg and eprhaps give me a hand
why i cant find any modules :/

has anyone else had issues with 2.6.21 and the forcedeth driver?

bonsaikitten, have to go. Thanks!

anyone?

how do u do screenshots in linux?

its vmware

with X running it’s relatively easy

my first time installing linux and didnt want to install it on my only boy without douing it atleast once like this

i run X

box ! not boy ;(

ksnapshot etc., lots of programs to do it

so, u like boys Slycer? ;D

How did you build your kernel?

k thx bonsaikitten

make && make modules_install

I just ran ‘emerge kde-meta’ it finally finished but I got an error saying “Video4Linux requires =x11-libs/qt-3* be compiled with USE=”opengl” ” How do I satisfy this?

Nod-ubuntu, emerge qt-3 with the opengl useflag, like it says

7
47 would be barrier for max size to burn or?

teach Nod-ubuntu use flags

No such faq

teach Nod-ubuntu useflags

Is qt3 what I really want if I’m going to go kde+beryl? I thought that qt4 was supported now.

No such faq

teach tomboy64 use

When an ebuild offers the user a choice, it usually checks the USE flags of that user to decide what to do. For instance, a package that conditionally supports the ALSA Sound Architecture, might listen to USE=”alsa” to decide whether or not to compile in ALSA support. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2

Nod-ubuntu, you can have both 3 and 4

teach Nod-ubuntu use

Nod-ubuntu: When an ebuild offers the user a choice, it usually checks the USE flags of that user to decide what to do. For instance, a package that conditionally supports the ALSA Sound Architecture, might listen to USE=”alsa” to decide whether or not to compile in ALSA support. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2

Oh okay

import, xv, scrot, gimp, xwd, all can be used to take screenshots

AllenJB any idea what could be the problem? :/

No, I don’t. Beyond you compiling everything in to the kernel and having no modules. Weird.

hello everyone

i scrolled up..and theres a lot of lines containing files endind in *.o … smthn like “CC lib/radix-tree.o”
does this mean that i have the modules?
ooohhhh! do you think i compiled everything in the kernel?! it is possible..i dont remember seeing any “M” during kernel configuration
took me a while to understand what you said..i’m new

can I ask about webalizer here?

hi. for what there is “gtk” USE-flag for gcc?

Morning all

Damn it… -dev turned into an unreadable mess…

Is there a seperate module for the intel 9xx gp , Im having some problems with aiglx rendering video , There are a few warnings in xorg log

hi
does anyone know ajax here?

it plays the video fine , if I try to move the window I get a blue screen until I stop movement, same with rotating compiz cube

you mean i can do javascript?

who is ajax :P

doh

mikee look into jquery ( simple to learn write and maintain )

yes

sarts, i am looking for someone, who may have “tree widget” programed in java script

teach mikee about topic

The main topic of #gentoo is _support_ for Gentoo Linux. If your question isn’t Gentoo-related, or if it’s Gentoo-related, but not support-related, ops may ask you to move the conversation to #gentoo-chat or another more appropriate channel.

my question is not gentoo-related?

Comments off

I need help with PAM I want to use pam_mount to mount users home directories The problem is that I want to exclude

hello

have you remerged pygobject as well?

“your ram is probably bad. trying to continue…”

genkernel is the slowest app i’ve seen to date

then i got kernel panics

if not try doing it too

no
ok

I’ve been having some trouble getting alsa to work. At boot up the system loads the alsa module, but when I search my system I dont see such a module
does anyone have an idea

i have been testing my ram ever since, and memtest86 hasnt found a problem

it installs /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pygtk.pth-2.0 , which I’m guessing adds that path to sys.path

alsamixer also recognizes the card correctly
but I continue to get

also be sure to run python-updater

i’ll do that

how do I recompile mod_ssl ?

if alsamixer works, alsa is recognizing the card

Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so: undefined symbol: X509_STORE_CTX_set_depth

what error are you getting?
and from what

well it suddnely got worse…

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml?desc=1 — that page is awesome, it’s a listing of all the Gentoo Linux Documentation.

without me knowingly changine anything

how so

open /dev/[sound/]dsp: No such file or directory
[OpenAL] could not open device
was getting that

that may be the solution, i probably forgot to run python-updater after installing python-2.5

then I (while emerging quake3)
did “locate alsa”
and now I get

ok, thats ok. whats goin on is this: openAL is using OSS (old sound system) and your system is set up for ALSA (new sound system)

ah ok

you should recompile openAL to use OSS (probably put -oss in your use flags) or maybe add oss emulation to your kernel

I think I may have forgotten to config oss
if I do that it should in theory solve the problem?

for native sound

I’ve noticed packages installing nasm and yasm, are multiple assemblers nesc?

ya, I figured that

NeddySeagoon, can’t find memtest86 on the LiveCD

so, allready thanks for the time you gave me to help me out

an ALSA sound device is something like HW0:0

which was buggin me since I figure that should have been update long ago
ok, thanks

no prob

“your ram is probably bad. trying to continue…”

memtest86 bsays my ram is not bad.
so, what should I do? possible causes?

did you fix your problem?

check your disk benklop ?

my thought is maybe my power supply is being sumb, or maybe my motherboard is getting screwy
the boot disk?

not yet, this python-updater need to re-emerge 70 packages

yes
also how long did you run memtest?

guess i go get some sleep now

gnite

i think i used python-updater, but didnt work out for me

well so far 20 minutes

maybe you’re luckier

i’ll hope so

you emerging gnome?

benklop – keep running it

there are some gnome things in it

but this computer has been acting up. i have been using a realtime kernel and thought it might be the culprit, so i was booting into a gentoo cd to try and at least get my net up.

I have mozilla-firefox installed, but it was installed as a dependency… Can I change its status in portage from dep to a wanted package?
(I’d prefer not to recompile it for no reason)

is there a command in gnome that acts like an alert (from javascript)?

ninjaneo emerge –noreplace atom

thanks

depends on what you have and what deps on it, quite a few (but not all) packages that require a gecko runtime can use either xulrunner or seamonkey instead of ff if you give it the correct USE flags (-firefox xulrunner for xulrunner and I imagine -firefox seamonkey (or maybe no seamonkey, not
sure anymore) for seamonkey)

should’ve checked the info I suppose. the –help didn’t have it

I mean, to display a message

but then again both of those require about the same amount of time and space to compile as ff

ron_asheton have a look at zenity

hmm. .. The noreplace didn’t work, I did –depclean -av and mozilla-firefox showed up again.

what package is revdep-rebuild in? i cant find it in emerge –search

gentoolkit

gentoolkit, iirc

yes

thank you

artworx, cool

anyone have an opinion about sabayon?
i’ve used gentoo since before year-name releases…

i like it for ease of install, but id rather use gentoo.

whys that? whats gentoo got is its benifit?

is there anything that will let me print to pdf?

shouldn’t emerge –noreplace mozilla-firefox ensure that mozilla-firefox is in the world file? thats what I’m trying to do if I understand portage =\

victori, i’m pretty sure cups provides a pdf converter

ah so install cups and use the pdf
got it

85% sure thats an option that comes with cups by default…

thanks

i read that there security updates are not that good, but i guess if it uses portage it shouldnt really matter

ninjaneo ninjaneo just tried that an it works here, i’ve deleted mopzilla-firefox from wold and a –noreplace added it again

but cups DEFINATLEY has some way of doing it, whether it’s by default or not

if you have kde, its a drop-down choice. if you have it but are not using it, print to a command, and use kdeprint as the command. then you can choose the pdf printing that kde does
of course that assumes you have that

Does anyone know of an assembler in portage compatible with intel syntax?

omfg

hm, artworx, do you know what depclean works off of to calculate deps then? I assumed it was the world file… See what happened was I started to emerge gnome-light, then stopped… and started doing xfce4. So it installed a bunch of stuff, including mozilla-firefox. I’d like –depclean to
remove the gnome deps, but I’d like to keep mozila-firefox

grr, can someone help me…I broke “emerge”. I unmerged python and now “emerge” replies that python is a bad interpreter

my boss just called me and asked me what putty.exe was… and then mentioned someone he fired for looking at porn while at work… then said “I don’t care if you look at porn, just not on my time… porn is good sometimes, but in moderation”….

smooth

how can I manually merge a file?

sorry just had to share that jem
*gem

i have unmerged a package, and now i have done emerge –sync and emerge -uDva world, and portage is trying to install the package i have removed ? how can i prevent this to happed ?

you need to have python, portage is a python script

ninjaneo, whats up
yeah, I tried something retarded, lol
so I have it as a binary package but how can I use that?
just untar it?

still have the livecd?

at least I did quickpkg before

ninjaneo i don’t know what portage does, but usually recording a package in world does the trick, can you manually check that’s there?

kaydara, something must depend on that package. what pkg is it?

yeah, I have the livecd, but I also did quickpkg python

If I could find the file I bet

teamwork, one is realplayer and another gaim
teamwork, that way i can understend now

why is everything impossible

because you’re crazy?

kaydara, emerge gentoolkit and then ‘equery depends realplayer gaim’.

teamwork, doing that, i allready have gentoolkit
thanks

can I just untar the python binary package?
is that all emerge -k does?

no, emerge -k does a lot more than that

how does this pam_stack update thing work? the instructions on the gentoo website don’t actually seem to tell me to do anything…

(vdb related stuff mainly)

well, can I untar the python build and then emerge python to fix it?

if you need to recover and portage doesn’t work you can do that, but be sure to remerge the same binpkg of python afterwards

I found the command regenworld, it quickly detected that mozilla-firefox was missing from my world file… so Soultion: emerge –noreplace mozilla-firefox; regenworld

ok. Yes, it’s the same package. I did quickpkg python && emerge -Ca python
so they are all the same

kaydara, fyi, you can create a /etc/portage/profile/package.provided file and place pkg’s you don’t want (including version number) in that file. i use this to have gnome, but not Evolution.

heh, nice unmerging python btw

g’bye #gentoo.

yeah, you can just untar it in your root then

anyone else having problems emerging PyQt?

still a good to remerge it afterwards though

its saying that there is no module nammed sipconfig

got sip merged?

i did a -D so i assume so
yes i do

hmm, what version?

4.7

has anyone tried emerging pypanel recently? when i do, no executable is installed

assuming you’ve recently updated to python 2.5 I assume you’ve already run python-updater?

it was a while ago but yes i did

mind pastebinning the output of equery f sip?

i changed to gcc4.2 more recently
im reemerging it
works

Is anyone getting ‘access violation’ on x11-libs/vte and|or www-client/epiphany while trying to emerge?***

now i just have to fix fusion-icon

nope, though I’m using gnome 2.19

~x86?

damn damn damn

an experimental overlay
I’ll check on my PII (which is plain ~arch), sec
hrm, might not actually be right actually, havn’t synced on it for a week or two

my dual athlon is ~x86 too, but in the same boat as tfkyle… haven’t synced in a while

skon ~ # emerge -n portage-utils && grep -vxFf (emerge -qep system) (emerge -
qep pango) | sed -rne ‘/^\[ebuild/{s/(^| )\[[^]]*\]( |$)//gp}’ | xargs qatom |
awk ‘{print $1″/”$2}’ | xargs emerge -1 …. is this command working for anyone?

http://rafb.net/p/zqdkqC27.html – how do I prepare my system for ksymoops?

error: no such option: -,”
and my machine has been down for days now

I can’t get my gentoo machine to boot off of the cd….what can I do?

omg system) (emerge -

qep pango) | sed -rne ‘/^\[ebuild/{s/(^| )\[[^]]*\]( |$)//gp}’ | xargs qatom |

maccabre

Kenjin its a boot option … like a kernel

am I entering the command wrong?

does anyone know how to boot off of the iso disk?
jsut inserting the disk and rebooting is nto working…
not*

ticnailer69, set the bios to boot from cd first

Is there a loss of quality when I’m converting JPG into PNG? (using mogrify )

Mirrakor, probably, always loss in converting

i don’t know I am newbie in sed
for me your ‘code’ is massacre

ok
should of thought of that
thanks

is png smaller than jpeg?

totally depends

rule of thumb no

ok

what’s the deal with compiz-fusion
it’s all crappy like compiz used to be

gcc-config error: /usr/bin/fastjar wrapper: Unable to determine executable.
CTARGET=i586-pc-linux-gnu
anyone know how to get past that? my emerge world is failing with that on the antlr package

hrm what does it mean if I get a “failed to obtain dir lock in repository” while trying to check something out of CVS

bsdfox, edit your world resume file so it does not bother to recompile antlr
and emerge –resume

is that in /var/db/pkg?

or just emerge –resume –skipfirst

is there a problem with the antlr package? or is that just a crappy workaround

i have a question about which version to d/l

which version of what ?
please make clear questions

i want to download and install gentoo on my computer

ahh

i am using XP right now

1 second

k

do you have an x86 system ?

yeah

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml
this is the full manual to gentoo installation
most used installation way is the gentoo stage 3 network installation through a livecd like knoppix … (stage 1 and stage 2 are NOT reccomended)

Stage 1 is awesome though
more rice = more win

if youa re talking about bootstrap … stage 3 is able for that too

need i quote bugzilla on rice?

would i have to have a new or newer monitor to setup

I dont understand your question
why would a monitor be relevant for a setup ?

i have a GEM monitor which is a little old, i tried to setup another Linux distro and it had on the screen “Frequency Over Range”

hmmm I had older monitors aswell … it should be working

ok, ill try it out

Testure31, prob wrong hsync vsync in xorg.conf
hsync/vsync /res

does flash in linux hosting not support sound?

it does support sound … or should

how do i fix that before installing?

are you actually reading the manual ?!
you will need a livecd first

yes im reading the manual

hey, i am having a problem with my ext3 partition, i am using an intel mac so i think it might have to do with the partitioning scheme, when i try to boot, it says bad superblock try e2fsck -b 8193, but i have tried using my superblock backups with fsck.ext3 and it repairs the filesystem with
no fix after reboot

hi, i have gensplash and there are “acpi-posts” that interrupt the left upper corner. Does anyone know how i can say acpi to be silent at bootup?

How do I start the default apache (comes with gentoo) without using init.d

apachectl start ?

Right, this is what I though
but there isn’t one

why not use init.d ?

hum

I’m not connected to the network
and the init.d file gets caught up trying to get to the network

I’m gong to kill something
everytime i do emerge -u world
something is blocked
and this time it’s the same thing as what was being blocked when i had to reinstall :’(

hey all — does anyone know if there exists ebuild for xfree86? that’ll work with a 2007.0 generation install?

Hi! Does anybody has highlights about what libnss* are and why the linker sees them as if they were marqued with DT_NEEDED even if they are not?

you just have to emerge -C the blocker

what does the -C do?

remove

ahh
like -unmerge?

yup

okay

let me find a link for you

i’ve got this circular situation though
coldplug is blocking udev
and udev (older ver) is blocking coldplug
so i can -u coldplug OR udev
can = can’t
unmerging udev
…..

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly
a href=”http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly”http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly/a
emerge -C coldplug

why are you unmerging udev?

Hi! I’m interessed on traslate the documentation of Gentoo to pt_BR. Allright, exist any support of Gentoo Foundation to translate (ex.: wiki)?

milk-it: none that I am aware of. Check in #gentoo-userrel though, they may be able to directo you better

because it’s blocking coldplug

no, coldplug is blocking udev.

and cold plug is blocking me from using a newer version of udev
they block each other

what you wanted to do is –unmerge coldplug and then you can emerge the new udev

_AxS_, thanks

hm..
well, i needed to emerge coldplug again anyway
to emerge compiz-fusion

the new udev provides coldplug functionality. you dont ever need coldplug again

you need coldplug?

yah
well

whatever howto you’re reading, you need to find a newer one

:P
i try to emerge compiz-fusion
and it tells me 5 things are blocking it
udev
coldplug
some xfce stuff (irrelevent)
and another udev

is compiz-fuzion in the tree or is it form an overlay?
from*

or the same udev, but blocking something else
erm
i’m not to hot with this terminology
i grabed xeffects
then emerge compiz-fusion

xeffects is an overlay, and whatever you’re trying to emerge is out of date.

error – things are blocking things

ask in #gentoo-xeffects to find out what you’re supposed to do

okay
thanks mate :]

np

cd /usr/local/portage/xeffects/; svn up

so… xfree86 ebuilds? anyone know of an overlay for these?

what on earth for?

old hardware.. GATOS simply doesn’t work with xorg, for mach64 cards

GATOS, heh
school? :p

hey guys sorry for the afk. I can’t just –skipfirst on antlr cause gjdoc requires it and it fails

nah.. another attempt at a dumpster-dive PVR

so don’t skip it

what is it failing on?
(antlr)

did you check overlays.gentoo.org ?

yeah — well mostly. i didn’t search the contents of every overlay in there, but google should have…

gcc-config error: /usr/bin/fastjar wrapper: Unable to determine executable.
CTARGET=i586-pc-linux-gnu

k

what’s your CHOST ?

the pre 4.4 ebuilds are still up at sources.gentoo.org

hehe, sorry reisio, i press enter a lot -_-;

ok cool, i’ll see if those’ll still build

I guess people don’t ‘chat’ in IRC like they do in an IM

CHOST=”i586-pc-linux-gnu”

especially not when there are 914 people reading

is there a way to cvs/svn grab from sources?

hrmm?

did you change it?

2: error: asm/user.h: No such file or directory’, I read somewhere that gentoo dropped asm/user.h

instead of downloading each file by hand..

oh each ebuild

900 of which are probibly asleep :P

nope

any clue on how to build UML?

I don’t know of a simple way, but I haven’t ever looked for one

k tnx

the bonus is that X wasn’t modularized back then

so you installed an i586 stage3 way back when?

so it should be many less packages

yes, that helps huge

yea

what is it u try todo ?
i understand usermodelinux

do you have the ‘java’ use flag enabled for gcc?

but the closest i get is chroot
or on windows colinux

I followed the directions, I got to ‘make linux ARCH=um’

what directions ?

2: error: asm/user.h: No such file or

looks like it

hmm, let me find it

mm.. unsure then..

weak

what is ‘fastjar’ a part of? equery b /usr/bin/fastjar

one of them is http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/uml.xml but its basically the same directions

java package manager ?

you might need a different linux-headers version than what you have

ok, because I did read somewhere that he down graded linux-headers, but would that hurt anything?
s/he/someone/

the file it says is missing i think is part of linux-headers, so yes. having the wrong version of linux-headers is probably your issue

err.. doesn’t find anything

emerge or pull a newer kenerl and compile hosting that with um

what’s the server dns more efficient? time nslookup host ipopendns show me low reply …

Most 2.6 kernels have UML support.
it says most

hm, ok that could be the problem then.. sounds like you need a package

so yours hasnt :p

you probably want to go older though, not newer..

i feel old enough

thats the issue, I did, didn’t work, as _AxS_ said it could be the linux-headers

How do you specify a default pointer in Xorg? I’ve got evdev working with my MX510 just fine, but I still get messages in my log about no default pointer being found..

you using /dev/input/mice ?

No, /dev/input/event2. My mouse works fine. I just want to get xorg to stop trying to find another mouse because it doesn’t consider my mouse to be the default.
So, I guess my question is how to get xorg to treat the mouse I specified in my xorg.conf as the default .. so it’ll stop looking for another one. =]

Hi everyone! I was a dip-wad and did a –purge without checking what I was removing! As a result of my general stupidity I unmerged gcc 4.x and can’t emerge anything (compiler cannot create executables)
what should I do?

Hm, maybe boot with a live cd?

Sememmon, I still have gcc 3.x
just not 4.x

hey guys, sometimes my ethernet device isnt reconize…this message came on lspci -v

I don’t think that’ll do you any good tho if you can’t emerge..?

cchildress, why not download the 4.x package and compile it with 3.x?

someone can help over here

why can’t you gcc-config to v3 gcc, then recompile stuff?

Arkangel, I tried that…it downloads and extracts, but gcc 3.x won’t compile it for some weird reason

hm

Telexen, …….didn’t know about that command, is why I”ll try that now

quick question guys… is there a noob channel so i dont annoy you guys?

do a ‘gcc-config -l’

evilnone, this is it

see which version it’s trying to use

hello

cchildress, you probably have to start at the release immediately after the release you have
and build your way up to 4.x

Telexen, [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *

is 1 …-3.3.6 then?

no i mean really noob… like unknowing how to do the simple stuff that you guys use in your solutions…. ie check if /boot is mounted

yup

‘gcc-config 1′
env-update; source /etc/profile

alright, here goes nothin’

someone?????????????????

PsciCode1ixHAT, what message did lspci -v give you?

interest

oops
lol

sorry

if you type in “mount” and press enter it will tell you all the volumes that are mounted

ok well if anyone can help me i posted a problem i am having emerging on the gentoo forums…. i was told that there was a kernel problem… want a link to my post?

blackace, well, he *was* being pretty insistant

Arkangel, ty i just dont know what to do to fix my problem…

if by insistent you mean flat out annoying ;P

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4210398.html#4210398 thats the link to mypost

Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 2106 (rev 86) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 0105 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 255 I/O ports at e000 [size=256] Memory at c1ffd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: [40] Power
Management version 2

Telexen, Arkangel, you guys ROCK! I’m back in business XD Thanks, guys!

is it compiling gcc 4.1.2?

PsciCode1ixHAT, well, i’d have to say that yes, it sounds like your kernel doesn’t have the right options enabled

Hello, hello

Telexen, it sure is!

some times it work
i have another device like that, but onboard…

PsciCode1ixHAT, lol…um…sometimes? as in randomly it doesn’t? and does it fail while you’re running, or do you sometimes reboot and it’s gone?
Telexen, will i need to do anything to switch to gcc 4 once it’s emerged?

sometimes i reboot and its gone

PsciCode1ixHAT, now you said that you have two ethernet controllers, yes?

yes…

should just be ‘gcc-config 2′ probabyl

PsciCode1ixHAT, are both necessary, or just optional?
Telexen, sweet…man, you’re a lifesaver!

which ever option it lists as 4.1.2

necessary

PsciCode1ixHAT, hmm….and they’re both running the same chipset, eh?

i use one to conect with another computer…

PsciCode1ixHAT, no router?

the secund one is pci of board, that is not working, is i use as a router

you could also use a really cheap-o switch
PsciCode1ixHAT, i’m afraid i’m not sure that i understand your setup fully
are you using your linux box as a router/firewall?

i know but i wanna trie know….i will try something and brb
yes…

k
gl

Where a complete list of use flags?
The one on the hard drive doesn’t have the ones gentoo is showing

http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

doesn’t show what pccts is loks like same list on hard drive

/usr/portage/profiles/use* /usr/portage/profiles/desc/*

anybody here have compiz-fusion working?

Those files hold descriptions of USE flags as well.
app-cdr/cdrdao:pccts – Use dev-util/pccts instead of the built-in substitution.
^^

Which means what?
ah well

How can I perhaps “blacklist” a module?

If you don’t know a package well enough to know what those USE flags and their descriptions mean, you are probably better off with the defaults.
I.e. if you don’t know what a USE flag is for, just don’t set it.

yeah that’s the general rule… but sometimes I am dying to see what it does….

Hey anyone here that can help me with linux?

dev-util/pccts – Purdue Compiler Construction Tool Set is an embedded C/C++ parser generator
I don’t know what that means, either.
teach Nubi about ask

Just ask, don’t ask to ask, don’t ask who’s familiar. Don’t ask if anyone knows about it. Just ask the question, it’s the easiest way to get people to answer

Okay, well im trying to figure out the basics, i want to use linux on my lappy but i dont know what dist to get, how to run it and so on and i really would love to learn.

does anyone have any experience installing gentoo on a usb drive? I just have 1-2 simple questions, relating to file systems and such

check out #ubuntu

This is not the right channel, then, unless you want to learn about Gentoo, which doesn’t seem to be the case right now.

nope haven’t gotten to it yet…
gnome sucks lol

mind the topic
don’t flamebait

what that mean?

Gentoo linux is more of an advanced distro, so it’s usually better to acquaint yourself with an easier distro first.

don’t do what you just did?

Right

or you can jump right into gentoo if you choose by reading the gentoo handbook at gentoo.org

i’m off to bed

you got the at sign in front of your name you have the power as you wish. You won’t get another opinion out of me lol

it means don’t sit around and be a stick in the mud. speak if you have an answer.

Thanks everyone here who’s helped me out today ^________^

point is, this channel is for gentoo linux support, not saying something sucks

Hell I have a day job… if I haven’t gotten to it yet I haven’t gotten to it yet…
as you wish forgive me….

hehe

Anayways silence is golden.. Look at otehr people’s problems and you have the solution to a future one…

hi people,

Howdy….

what’s the best torrent downloader with frontend for linux?

deluge I like deluge
But best i dont know… Some use Azureus ktorrent

google snagnever wikipedia comparison of bittorrent clients

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client

I think there is a command line one

I just use bittorrent, since it’s the original

bittorrent-client has a gui too, for X. simple, but I like it

and, um, it works

when emerging qt I am getting this error… does anyone know what package I need to emerge to fix it?
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL

reisio, Daryltoo thanks, i’ll see

I thought it was mesa, but that didn’t work

looks like mesa aint installed

you need to emerge bittorrent with the gtk flag if you want the gui tho, just realized.

david34, I just re-installed it
I have media-libs/mesa-7.0.1
maybe i’m missing a use flag?

hello all
which website can find job in american ?

I don’t know probably.
I aint a expert… I just read and play

ok, well thanks anyway

qt installed fine on my system

Daryltoo, thanks again

a job doing what?

no problem, I like to cover myself before my mouth starts talking

programer or system manager in unix

www.google.com

Daryltoo, have u tried azurues?

It’s hardly on topic here.

monster.com

hmmm I found a site that says I need at least version 2.1.1 of opengl-update, but that package doesn’t seem to exist anymore…
any chance someone knows the replacement?

Good chance that this site you found is outdated.

hehe ,i can’t find a appropriate irc channel,sorry and thx all

Updated 2005-02-20

haha

try updating everything?

emerge -uav world tries to compile qt
so it fails

x11-base/opengl-update was removed from the tree 5 months ago.

y’know why?

Tried emerge –sync ?

it’s eselect now

eselect

yeah I have a recent portage tree

Bug #170889, of course.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/170889 nor, P2, All, ciaran.mccreesh@blueyonder.co.uk-eradicator@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, FIXED, remove x11-base/opengl-update

I just need something to fix this error when compiling qt… and the only thing I could find through googling pointed me to opengl-update =/

Could you pastebin the _relevant_ error messages, please, including the output of `emerge -vp x11-libs/qt` and `emerge –info`?

sure
rej, http://pastebin.ca/674262

hiya
anyone heard about DCCP ?

is that like DSSSL ?

whats that?

sounds familiar

my sentiments exactly :p

Datagram Congestion Control Protocol

yeah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datagram_Congestion_Control_Protocol

have someone tried to learn/digg it deeper in linux ?

what if someone have?

i really need some resources.
and ideas

!google dccp linux

http://www.ducksong.com:81/dccp/

i tried to take it for my research topic

anyone seen linuxmce?

what’s the name of that client for giFT? curse? curseD ?

snagnever, u want gui or cli?.. i use apollon

stealth, i’m trying apollon, but it doesn’t seem to be connecting \=

u behind nat?

no, i serve nat

huh?
usually just need port forward on 1214

http://rafb.net/p/XQ7YYJ79.html
stealth, look the fwall connection

I’ve seen it stealth, what about it?

so your using gift on that box

yes

Daryltoo, i want it…. and want to bring it to portage

I thought it was a distro for the most part, no?

lol
oops wrong chan

snagnever, hmm… its all accept, input chain is for that box

yes yes
it was not suposed to be that bad
i’ll try to change the port
stealth, http://rafb.net/p/5a3rOY39.html
config file

or specifially imply it snagnever … iptables -A INPUT -i EXTIF -p tcp –dport 1214 -j ACCEPT
1213..

here the default came 1213

hehe
:-D

is it different there?

naa i have 1213

I really need help I’ve lost my apache2 and mysql?
can someone help me?

ironfoot495, go on…lost…

uhh?

stealth, took real long, but connected now on gnutella
only

snagnever, here is my iptables.. lil more complicated since Im using nat router… but i have gift behind it and it fires right up in apollon … http://rafb.net/p/Rzuile25.html
if its on the fw box though u should just need input chain
ironfoot495, u lost apache and mysql…

weekay-wursuh

stealth, hehehe ‘a lil more’ :P

:-D

maybe because it’s the first time i’m running it stealth ?

hmm try this.. go into settings — configure –advance in appollon… delete the plugin and re add it… restart apollon when it asks
/usr/lib/giFT is the dir if its not there
libFastTrack.so is the module
that might be it too.. i know there are two modules for fast track giFT.. one doesnt work so well iirc

Hi, all, I’m trying to get Gentoo LiveCD to recognize my hard drives on SATA controller on an Abit AB9 Pro board. Here is the output of my lspci — http://pastebin.com/m5e89ad34 There are a whole slew of SATA controllers there and to the best of my
knowledge, my hard drives are plugged into the Silicon Image. I have sata_sil24 and sata_sil both probed but to no avail. Can anyone help?

nickburns, the drives dont show initialized in dmesg and given a /dev/ entry?

stealth no sir

stealth, i’ll try

nickburns, u say silicon image but all i see is jmicron .. u have two controllers?
jmicron seems to just need ahci module

0.0 Mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller (rev

anyone using compiz fusion?

connected fast on gnutella

oh oh i see it now

the others, nothing
ares, openft and fasttrack
‘connecting…’

nickburns, is ahci module loaded?

stealth yup

what’s SGR?

letters?

lol

snagnever, u have both openft and fasttrack goin?

yes

try disabling one of them

ok

edit gift.conf for the plugins line

deleted fasttrack

stealth any suggestions?

geeze kinda strange.. required modules loaded yet nothing in dmesg..

Just installed fluxbox and set the session on kdm, but I can’t log in. why?

hi all, is there a way to continue interrupted emerging?
my laptop just shut down while in the middle of kde emerge, it probably overheated

homie_bongo, from a regular emerge package or emerge world? –resume will continue from the world.. regular package i think it starts all over..

emerge –resume

stealth regular emerge

na i dont think so

stealth, only gnutella

I cannot get kde installed I have left the laptop emerging overnight at least two times already, but x can never execute startkde

snagnever, check grc.com and do a port scan on yourself see if 1213 is open.. if not then it has to be somthing with the network/firewall

is there an easy way to test the read/write speed of a usb disk? will hdparm -tT /dev/sdc2 work?

ok

adeel, might work.

stealth, hmm…it did report numbers…916 mb/s for the cached read and 9.85 mb/s for buffered disk read
i guess it’s acceptable
haha, the usb cached read is faster than my sata2 320 gb drive

yea.. just make sure u umount when u send files over
when you are done

yeah i know…but you also have to wait till the usb light stops flashing, otherwise you’ll still get errors

usb is async

after installing gentoo here, my windows xp stoped working
no reason why
hehehe

snagnever, stopped working or it dosent boot?

anybody know of a functioning linux/wineable CAD program?

snagnever, maybe just wrote over the mbr bootloader?

stealth, it starts booting
on that logo
so, suddenly it reboots

Devrethman, im sure there is a plethora of them on freshmeat.net .. u can look at the screenshots there.. most are mergeable

How can I know how many kbytes a process is occupying in RAM ?

Did you change the partition number of the windows system drive?
ps / top

not consciously jmbsvicetto

Devrethman, i know you can run SolidWorks in vmware

jmbsvicetto, it gives me percentages. I’d like to know the absolut value.

Look at the command options

Devrethman, although you don’t get hardware opengl so there are noticable performance problems when your geometry gets complicated

Do you get any GPF?

Devrethman, you could also try the linux 3d app, blender as people have used it for CAD

what is GPF?

General Protection Fault – also known as BSOD – blue screens of death

Qcad looks good for 2d.. and yea blender would be good.. ive been playing with BMG Blender Mechanical Gears..

stealth, what’s bmg mechanical gears?

vericad is awsome too
varicad
… proprietary though

jmbsvicetto, nope

KurtKraut, you could just take the percent values and multiply them by your installed ram

adeel, it makes a gear tooth perfect mesh
then u spindup it

KurtKraut, also, ‘ps axl’ should show you all the ram allocations…or try ‘lsof’ that might help
stealth, interesting

adeel, yea im really trying to get physics goin in it.. where one axel gear will spin others

adeel, the application I’m running is so small that it shows 0.0% usage ;P

no idea then

jmbsvicetto, =[
i'll try to reinstall it
and se what i get

KurtKraut, in the 'ps axl' output, the VSZ column is, i believe, the amount of memory (ram + virtual) allocated to the program

actually, it's a way to force people here to use linux
heheh then, it's ok

adeel, this numbers are in bytes, am I right ?

stealth, i believe that's more animation related
KurtKraut, kb
stealth, although, tools like maya/lightwave have stuff for that work and are linux compatible...not sure if the plugins are, but the core programs have been ported to linux

ps -o size -p `pidof ssh`

adeel, blender has a physics game engine... works fine dont see why i couldent apply it to gears.. i suppose the only thing i would be missing is just the correct units of power like .. ft/lb of torque to the axel
but for proof of concept before i go buying a arse load of gears

stealth, just keep in mind...garbage in = garbage out...make sure your numbers are realistic, etc

bye people

what is it you're doing?
sounds like an engineering thing..

i just wish there was a way to move from solidworks to blender or some other program in linux

is blender really a CAD program? i thought it was a renderer..

blender is 3d and has a good enough physics engine

thanks a lot stealth and jmbsvicetto ;D

snag\sleep, np

_AxS_, blender is a full 3d animation program...so you can do modelling...as far as CAD...it all depends on how accurate you make your models, which holds true even in cad programs

best blender plugin = b2cs
blender 2 crystal space ftw
http://b2cs.delcorp.org/index.php/Debian_Packages
replaces that wimpy ge into a full featured, more powerful one.

most CAD programs also have specialized routines to do analysis and post-processing
ge?

would there be an advantage to exporting solidworks stuff to blender? i mean, if solidworks does it already....

_AxS_, well the ONLY reason i have windows on this machine is so i can use solidworks when necessary

why not get a secure linux web hosting license for solidworks then?

QCAD is nice...

_AxS_, solidworks only comes in windows flavor

not according to their website

_AxS_, i have yet to see a linux version

LINUX SUCKS

...

why are you here then ?

_AxS_, can you point me to the link your seeing the linux stuff about?

why are you here if linux sucks?

please don't feed the trolls folks

lol same answer?

He's probably a Windows user...
"Genuine Updates are better than everything!1 So good I want to spend 50 hours updating!"
"Genuine Updates are better than everything!1 So good I want to spend 50 hours updating!"
er...

sorry everybody.. this was a social experiment..

shred -f0

I use ubuntu personally
usin it now

remind me why you're here

Oh, the Microsoft Linux. :p

less of that thanks

RAWR!
microsoft linux?!!?
first of all
blah blah blah
im too tired of that

might I remind everyone the topic is gentoo support and everything else is off-topic?

Was only laying. :p
er...
playing*

layiung?
XD

Stop thinking ze dirty. :

XD

looking for it again.. gimme a min

gentoo is great

http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg
a href="http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg"http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg/a

gents, random chat in #gentoo-chat please

Gentoo + XFCE = ^^

never tried GeNToo?

ahaha

gentoo help anyone?

#gentoo-ops please

oooOoo

someone here must be having issues with an install.. free aid here --

im having all sorts of issues upgrading this 2 year old install, all of them seem to be sorting out nicely though =(

Is there a benefit of unicode?

.. why the frown if they're sorting out ok?

xaque, if you only work in english, i don't really think there is...unicode is supposed to provide compatibility with other character sets...e.g. japaneese, chineese, etc

unicode is more flexible than other (smaller) charsets. It allows fancy character sets to just work with your software

_AxS_, the only mentions i see of linux with solidworks refer to the FlexLM licensing server, which i already know about

yeah, i can't find it either.. it was a press release, maybe it was old and they cancelled the project..
OTOH, does this work: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Import_and_Render_a_SolidWorks_Model
[/off-topic]

hmmm…i’ll have to check that
anyone else running amd64 and having problems running grub in a terminal/console? specifically, i can no longer do the tab completion

…does grub have a bash-completion use flag now?
otoh, i think on my amd64 i’ve never been able to tab-complete.. mind you it’s a tomcat server hosting and i never tried to make it work

_AxS_, i can tab-complete in most apps, but i haven’t been able to in grub…but then again, it also doesn’t clear the terminal and take over like other terminal programs (nano for instance)
and no, grub doesn’t have a bash-completion use flag

i am very confused, can someone take a look at something for me?
http://www.pastebin.org/1339

hmmm….boot from usb seems to be very slow

bummer amarok wont start

usb is / ? yeah that’ll be slow

TheEpitome, one of your use flags is causing it

is there a way to find out which one it is? i have a lot of them

TheEpitome, i think it’s the gnome-vfs package that’s causing problems
specifically the doc use flag

ok cool do you know that just from experience?

TheEpitome, no, i just looked at the output, and noticed doxygen as a package and iirc, doxygen has some gnome deps

do you have the ‘doc’ use flag set in make.conf ?

i just unset it, but i am still wondering how you can tell that is the offender that easily

experience in this case. USE=doc causes circular dependencies a few different ways

TheEpitome, the other use flags are pretty standard, and if there had been a problem with that, there are enough gnome users that someone would have reported it

(global USE=doc, that is)

how can I –sync one computer off another on my homenetwork?

completely off topic….I’ve been playing with google hot trends. They let you compare different searches…… http://www.google.com/trends?q=Kelly+Clarkson%2C+Fantasia+Barrino%2C+Carrie+Underwood%2C+Taylor+Hicks%2C+Jordin+Sparks&ctab=0&hl=en&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

hmm ok. im just trying to find the proper way to determine if something is or isn’t a bug. Is this something that is originally figured out with some extra debugging output from emerge?

ComputerA = the one you run emerge –sync on. Then, on ComputerA, run ‘rsync -aP –delete –exclude=”metadata/cache” –exclude=”distfiles” –exclude=”local” /usr/portage/ root@computerb:/usr/portage’

TheEpitome, what’s the problem?

not really. as you can see in the message, it says there’s a circular dependency problem.

i’ve had a few attempts at USE flags and they keep coming up with circular deps. I have read the doc and it says this is a bug

_AxS_, that’s quite a command
brb

im sorry im not trying to be difficult if i am im sorry

hey some one can help over here

circular deps are 99% of the time, caused by use flags. The other 1% of the time, they’re caused by ebuild bugs (ie, in overlays)
probably, ask away

i have 2 ethernets devices ok…

ok

the first one is onboard (via) the second is on pci. i use as a router..ok

uh huh… so what’s the issue?

FunkyELF, interesting find

sometimes the second one is not recognizer…

_AxS_, ComputerA = the original sync from the web?

yep.

i do lspci -v

i guess my reason for concern is that cicrular deps should be resolvable by installing multiple times in a certain order. is this not correct? i am able to resolve them when I compile hosting packages manually from source, including gnome-doc gnome and
cyrus-sasl openldap

i get that…

its always in the lspci list?

VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 2106 (rev 86) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 0105 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 255 I/O ports at e800 [size=256] Memory at c1ffd800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version
2

_AxS_, so computer A is telling computer B to sync?

adeel, I just put this in #linux but I’ll say it here too…. distrowatch shows ubuntu with ~2600 and pclinuxos with ~2400…..but then look at this from google’s hot trends….. http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+pclinuxos&ctab=0&hl=en&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

no, you’re using rsync to make computerb exactly like computera
Oh, after you do that, on computerb, you need to run emerge –metadata

adeel, if you put ubuntu with any other distro on hot trends they all look like flat lines, but this one with pclinuxos, opensuse, gentoo, and fedora makes it look like Gentoo should be like #3 on distro watch http://www.google.com/trends?q=pclinuxos%2C+opensuse%2C+gentoo%2C+fedora&ctab=0&hl=en&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

_AxS_, does it matter if one is amd64 (64 bit build) and one is 32bit x86?

nope — the portage tree is the same, no matter what

cool, thanks

did i see the irq 255,
but some times this divece work…
im thinking that probably the undev is not working as should work. what do u thing?
bim thinking that probably the undev is not working as should work. what do u thing?/b

is there anything you can do to it in the BIOS? maybe hard-code an irq or whatever? ..this is unfortunately a hardware problem, and we probably can’t help you much with it..
?

i am able to resolve the dependency when compiling with .configure && make && make install so there should be a way for portage to handle it, correct?

thanks any way

since this is an onboard card, try upgrading your bios too, might help

the offboard that is not working good

oh. i thought you said the onboard was the via.. can you rafb.net/paste the output of lspci for me?
(emerge wgetpaste if you dont have it, easiest way)

ok…im tring a thing here and i will past the output of lspci

well, if you have another computer you can swap the offboard card into it and test it there — if the problems follow then its the card. otherwise its probably the motherboard/bios (again, try upgrading the bios)

is what im doing right now
_AxS_:

how could i pipe cli output to the X clipboard for middle click …

xclip

ey guys, I had a problem with mysql where I forgot ym root password, so I ran mysqld with –skip grant tables, and changed it, but when I restarted I get this error: [Warning] No argument was provided to –log-bin, and –log-bin-index was not used; so replication may break when this MySQL server
acts as a master and has his hostname changed!! Please use ‘–log-bin=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld-bin’ to avoid this problem.followed by a “c
an not open log file” any help?

cool thanks richiefrich
rickest,
Daryltoo, u should change the root pass with mysqladmin

no, I forgot the pass
that’s why I had to do that

if u have root access to the system u should be able to just run the same command again

ok, well either way I have the problem now
I’ve looked through config files and such

Hello, I was having trouble with gentoo, I need help.

but I can’t seem to find a way to deal with this
what’s your questoin gentoorox?

wait, nevermind

ok

hi there, im new to gentoo, and im installing from a livecd. I seem to be stuck where its asking for a network mount
what exactly is a network mount?
ive never had to do one in my past run ins with several distros
including sabayon, the gentoo derivitive

Daryltoo, when u login to mysql database services with skip gran ttable.. did u update the db?
can u login?

network mount?

yeah, on install
its asking for a ‘network mount’

Ahhh… you must have triggered the netboot install method

no, i didnt actually

just do it the standard stage3 way

if you’re new the recomended way is to install gentoo traditionally, not using the graphical installer

i just clicked standard

umm

don’t use the GLI

I did a flush privileges

it gives me the same thing in the command line though

what’s giving you the message?

but now I can’t log in at all cuz the server won’t start

you might have better luck in a mysql channel..

gentoo gentoo_livecd handbook

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

^ that’s the traditional method

heh, thats on the livecd desktop
ill check it
i did before, but it wasnt very helpful
plus theres hella lag for somereason
its unpleasant
thanks for the advice

http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/208167

Daryltoo, dont know.. google, and #mysql all i can say.. worst comes to worst i suppose u can remove it all

short form: 1-open a terminal, 2-’sudo su -’, 3-partition and format the hdd for install and mount root to /mnt/gentoo, 4-download a stage3 file, 5-extract stage3 to /mnt/gentoo, 6-’chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash’, etc. etc…

and start over

i see

the point of the graphical installer is to speed up things for people who already know what they’re doing, installing gentoo by hand following the handook teaches more

i guess ill do it the old fashioned way then
the network mount has been my only issue

the problem is there are serious issues with the gui installer. we see people here every day that run into them. command line is preferred and reliable, assuming you can read and are willing to learn

afaik, the _only_ thing the installer would want a net. mount for though, is for a package directory — ie, when doing a netboot install.

I want to have your babies

suiside, yea i feel the same way .. i hate using GUI progs if i dont know whats going on… since if the gui prog breaks i know what to do..

thanks so much everyone for your help

i’ve no idea why this issue is happening to you though

2nd hit on a google search

yes, theres a net mount of sorts it asks for

I’ll sure hope that’s not one of those “google it” responses, as I did in three different terms I’m _not_ the first person to run in and ask for help, I read

I know, maybe I just got lucky I googled: mysql “no argument was provided to –log-bin”

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
if you need to reset your root password, that’s the page you wan to read.

mysql log-bin error, mysql –skip-grant-tables log-bin error I tried, oh well

every time i do an emerge -DuvaN world it tries to install RealPlayer. I don’t even have RealPlayer installed.. where should i look to stop this?

directly quoting the error often helps

I’ve tried all day before, next day first idea. happens

yeah, I work search engines well, trust me
I’m one of those guys who normally gets whatever I want as the first result

especially ” if there’s a ‘-’ switch to include

so normally after 3 searches, and checking around on wikis, I generally come here

since it’s normally a meta for ‘does not include’

yeah, I use the -, +, quotes, inurl:, and many more

and if mysql is refusing to start, always check out the .err feil in /var/lib/mysql

ok im out

and ~ !!

/var/lib? all I checked was /var/log damm

/var/lib/mysql
you will find hostname.err

there’s no log files in there now, except ib_logfile,

s/hostname/replacewithyourfqdn

dvdrip takes forever

heh, how much data to you have to save?

umm, not much
only really snort db’s
its no production server

ah nothing major… well you can always mv /var/lib/mysql /var/lib/mysql.old
then emerge –config mysql
to re-create the mysql/ structure

aaah! that’s a really good idea

start the server… then mv mysql.old/mysql into mysql/mysql
while you have the CLI running

actually, that’s what I was originally looking to do, but it wouldn’t let me –config mysql because it was already installed

so you can update your password
right, but if you mv /var/lib/mysql…
you can also use mysql_install_db

yeah. hey, now that I have you guys telling me where to go on google, where can I find a good resource for making SSL certs? I tried for like 2-3 hours yesterday and got misc errors all over. I’m mostly looking for apache basic stuff

if you’re not worried about loosing your grant tables, mv /var/lib/mysql /var/lib/mysql.old, mysql_install_db, /etc/init.d/mysqld start
then mv /var/lib/mysql.old/snort /var/lib/mysql/snort
set your root pw, restart the server, re-add your grants

try #gentoo-server and #gentoo-apache , possibly #apache

I meant a website ref or something, but ok
I’ll harass the apache people

SSL Certs are pretty easy

I have a cert made
but it doesn’t match my domain for some reason

Are you making self signed certs, or cert requests to send to verisign?

how do i change my virtual console font?

cd /etc/ssl/misc

VeriSign, for example

see CA.pl

Tatsh, setfont

that’ll help you setup a self signed CA, self signed cert
etc

I was going to put it through to CAcert, but then I decided to maybe just do my own CA
I mean, whatever’s easier
I messed with CA.pl and the other file for a while yesterday

You’ll get errors on most browsers, saying the signer is not trusted

no, but my hostname doesn’t match my cert name
my cert is made to localhost
hehe

Make it to the FQDN

are fonts reletive to screen res or something? i emerged terimus font on my main pc at 1280×1024 and used it at size 10 in terminal, looks great. i emerged same font on laptop at 1024×768 and it looks tiney at size 10 and overall looks bad at all sizes

fqdn?
-noob

Fully Qualified online domain registration Name

oh
yeah, thats what I wanted to do

www.mydomain.com

but I couldn’t find out how
oh, put that as the CN?

matt271, font sizes are relative to screen resolution in pixels per inch.

Yup, that’ll be the common name

can I remove the www and leave it as fqdn.com?

Draconx, what do i type if i want the mac font

how does it know how big the screen is?

don’t use ww. in domain names :-/

You can, as long as you don’t use that on the request

this laptop is prob 16 inch i dunno

Daryltoo, do remove www.

Make it match whatever the host name you’re going to load the page is on

matt271, your video driver either gets that from the monitor, or you tell it explicitly in xorg.conf.
Tatsh, what’s “the mac font”?

this font http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bash_screenshot.png

how do i check that my video driver got it right?

I run the script compiz-start and get the following error: http://rafb.net/p/TwECw770.html

matt271, xdpyinfo should tell you what Xorg has determined the resolution to be (in dots per inch)

do I need to mess with openssl.cnf?

I don’t

okie dokie

It’ll prompt you for hte info

Tatsh, unfortunately, I don’t have the magic ability of naming a font I’ve never seen before just by looking at a picture of it.

does anyone know the name of the “Mac console” font?
the kernel configurator calls it “Mac console 6×11 font”

Is there any alternative other than OOo to open PPTs?

crazy2k, kpresenter
of koffice

which desktop do you guys use?

Is compiz-fusion no longer a package?

it seems gentoo comes default with gnome

KDE

but ive have a liking of kdu and flux

I pull it in from xeffects overlay

kde*

KDE is good, but can be slow at times
in my opinion

Get it from GIT sources

Will it take too long to compile?

i have no idea
if you already have some kde libs in i’m sure it wont take more than an hour
of course depending on your system

I’ve got a fast enough of a computer, never notice. But if I had a slower machine, I may not be using KDE

phaedrusiszen, xeffects works flawless for you? I emerged the compiz and compiz-settings packages and it won’t start

gentoo comes default with nothing

well perhaps the problems are just with some unstable apps

No problems. I moved from Beryl to Compiz-Fusion without any problems, even

Daryltoo, gentoo comes with quite a bit, actually.

well
I understand that

i unmerged all beryl stuff because my laptop’s video card is awful

What all packages are you pulling in? I can get you the list of the ones I do, if you’d like

but most of those basic things aren’t very “choosable” unless you don’t want much of an OS

but i still have a beryl section in services

thus far, compiz and compiz-settings

but in terms of apps on the level of gnome or kde, nothing’s included

How can I make my apache do vhosting ? it always just goes to the default one…

Do you know where can I get a binary package for it?

Here’s my typical emerge for compiz-fusion:
emerge compiz compiz-bcop emerald libcompizconfig compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported compiz-fusion-plugins-gears compiz-fusion-plugins-threed compiz-fusion-plugins-wallpaper compizconfig-backend-kconfig compizconfig-python emerald-themes ccsm
compiz-fusion compiz-fusion-plugins-atlantis

IS there a easier way to rip dvd’s other than dvd rip? (I probably already know the answer to that…)

i bring it all in, and sort it out after
Hasn’t let me down yet

most of those are masked, correct?

I think they all are, so have the /etc/portage settings to unmask

don’t you have to get those from the xeffects overlay?

phaedrusiszen, I typically edit the /etc/portage/package.keywords to unmask packages

Is there any ppt2something converter?

Ja. Also, run fusion-icon to select the window manager
Seems to work better that way

crazy2k, no idea
i use ooo and see no issues
and i even use it for school
but now i’m very interested in learning latex for papers

Yes. But I don’t have much time
and it will take ages to compile.
You should.
Learn LaTeX, I mean.

i plan on it

Hello. I need help with PAM. I want to use pam_mount to mount user’s home directories. The problem is that I want to exclude some users (root for example) from this process. Any ideas how to do this?

[RUsh]: see if you can make it so they have to be in a certain group

Exlude root?

not only root

root is god. You’ll have a hard time restricting it from much of anything

hi

I just don’t want pam_mount to mount /root from another server

somebody can explain me why the KVM’s virtualization is sooo slow?

Triffid_Hunter, sorry, I don’t understand. There is no such options in pam_mount config

how do you set the A record for the root of a domain using BIND?

dnadev, virtualization is always slow? :P

[Shiba]: @ A ip.add.ress.here or similar

i.e. if I have a zone file that lists hosts in domain *.test.com, how do I set the A record for test.com?

hi prophet

ahhh thank you

ebuth veeeery slow
wath’s wrong?
*wath’s
*******what’s xD

It’s still young

phaedrusiszen but you try it?
because y read about kvm

I’ve got it running on my machine at work, which has hardware virtual support in the processor. You’re going to take a hit when you virtualize, no matter what

and there says is relative fast

KVM still is a very young system, it’ll get better

whats wrong with kvm?

phaedrusiszen i have a core 2 du e6400

Nothing. It’s a work in progress

[Shiba] is slow….

Other systems are more mature

no it isn’t, at least not in my experience
I have an Opteron 2216 and VMs are lightning fast

[Shiba] for that, in another machines the kvm’s run is good, but in my case….

Going against a top-end VMWare, it’ll lose
At least for now

you’re missing the point, thats like comparing apples and oranges

phaedrusiszen what’s about Xen? paravirualization

vmware does the virtualization in a completely different way

it’s good?

Yeah? It’s a Linux system with a kernel module loaded in

vmware does paravirtualization, kvm does full system emulation

KVM can do para too, as far as I know
In fact, I believe it requires that hardware support

I’m not an expert on this subject, but look it up for yourself

You don’t need a modified host to run under KVM, it’s para

there are two different ways to virtualize a system. vmware does it one way, kvm does it another

Sorry, modifed guest

[Shiba] Qemu whit Kqemu runs faster kvm! :s

Vmware can do it multiple ways

as I said, I’m not an expert. look it up yourself

I have
Para, like Xen can do, like KVM does, like VMWare can, requires hardware x86 support
I’m not trying to slight KVM, it’s still young and has a great start
If it works well for you, awesome.

I don’t know about vmware .. I’ve only used it a little bit

There’s room for improvement and that will come

well….i will try with dosemu xD

however, in my limited experience, kvm does just as well if not better than vmware

Mmm
VMWare is the boss right now for a good reason, they do it really well

whats the name of that package to emerge that has all the windows fonts? i been looking and looking i tried eix win\ fonts, no good. just eix fonts lists wayyyyyyyyyy to many to look through them all

help, apache is blocking apache-tools

i need reboot

corefonts I think

goodbye and thanx
:-)

yep, media-fonts/corefonts Microsoft’s TrueType core fonts (http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/)

ty very much

The fact that KVM is working well for you is awesome. It’ll just get better

Comments off

when i try to mount a samba share with a normal user it says cannot mount on -mnt-share Operation not permitted

i’ll give it a whirl
the first time i installed i used a different install procedure that used genkernel, i’m wondering if i don’t have support for my vmware grafx

doubt that’s it

well, i didn’t have any video cards or input devices specified in my make.conf
just checked. the gentoo.org x86 quickinstall skips a lot of steps, i should’ve used the wiki one again

yeah, it does skip a lot

anyway, should I re-emerge xorg-server now that I set those options in make.conf ?

yes
I don’t know if you need to re-emerge anything else, but I know that’s one

emerge or emerge -u

i have FEATURES=”userpriv” and my ebuild that uses subversion.eclass to check out something from svn complains about not enough permissions
/usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src is root:portage owned
is this a permissions problem or should i change the ebuild?

how safe is upgrading linux-headers from 2.6.17-r2 to 2.6.21? 2.6.21 is stable? i ran into a couple of compile errors after upgrade

I’m using 2.6.22 with zero problems
with 2.6.21 headers

21 or 22? my kernel is 21

vladsharp^2|busy: /join #gentoo-dev-help ?

ah thanks

btw, downgrading fixed the compile host issues. so which version to use?
17, 21, or 22?
do i have to recompile other packages after i upgrade the headers (except glibc)?

someone use azureus?
someone know how to cancell pop ups?

is there klips-support in the gentoo-sources (for openswan)

wiki ctx144k openswan

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_OpenSwan_2.6_kernel

reisio, ok, that i have done
my kernel has the right options compiled in
i need to connect to a cisco-machine with a preshared key
ipsec__plutorun: …could not start conn “foobar”
i have no idea why…
ipsec verify shows me the correct values like it that sample

How do you disable swapping?
(temporarily)

swapoff /dev/partition

Is commenting out the /etc/fstab line enough?

no, that will work on reboot only

if you’d reboot yes

/dev/sda2: Cannot allocate memory
That means I don’t have enough RAM to store all my swap or what?

hi, what’s the pkg name for pgp?

gnupg

ah, thx vladsharp^2|busy

vladsharp^2|busy: swapoff: /dev/sda2: Cannot allocate memory
any idea?

could you post output of
cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal && swapon -s

1028172 kB
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda2 partition 1967952 981716 -1

hmnn then close some running programs perhaps?

I am back to 621824 only used memroy.. but still cannot swap off

1028172 methinks

but Used shows 621824 now
Is there a way to see how much mem is used by programs

in console, use “top”
if using kde, ksysguard is rather nice
in top, look for VIRT RES SHR columns
for virtual memory, resource memory and shared memory usage respectively

what’s the benefit of using lvm2?

sys-process/htop is a nicer version of top

hmnn guess i should try it :P

top does not show process ordered by memrory
it does by cpu %

htop does

ok, emerging

http://packages.gentoo.org has been down for a while, when will it be available again?

it seems this displays by thread, not process

?

I have 8 lines for firefox-bin for example

atop?

Hey, I have some trouble booting gentoo since I added a SATA drive to my pc

are you using the /dev/hdaX or /dev/sdaX syntax for root=?
and have you updated your fstab?
@sfxa

hey
I havent created a partion on this disk yet
I only have ide drives bise that one sata

so where is the problem? when booting up with the kernel? or trying to use the drive?

as I plugged in the drive gentoo didnt boot anymore
before that everything went well

have you got an error message?

!google hardware sata site:gentoo-wiki.com

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_SATA

no just a bliking cursor

is the cmos trying to boot from the sata ?

no. the first boot device is my ide drive

how do you start wpa_supplicant with iwl3945? i get nothing but errors, it keeps running tho’, but wpa_gui says it can’t connect, tried both eth1 (wmaster0 but it’s renamed to eth1 by udev) and wlan0_rename

wpa_supplicant working oke here on a ipw3945ABG never seen a iwl

works fine on my ipw3945 too, there’s iwlwifi in portage (masked tho’) otherwise look on intellinuxwireless.org
new driver doesn’t need binary daemons (eww yucky ), it does use firmware tho’, but honestly i don’t care much, more cards do this

CareBear\, hello again

Well hello. How did you know I was active?
Two can play the whois game I suppose.

CareBear\, i guessed
CareBear\, how are you today?

Many things to do, not enough time.
Yourself?

CareBear\, oh, what a bummer. what are you up to?

how to know if my touchpad is a synaptics toutchpad?

Entertaining a customer, and putting together a CV for a new assignment.

CareBear\, i want to continue on trying to get my computer to boot, but i don’t have that much time either _
CareBear\, what kind of assignment?

aren’t they all? :p

Systems development? :p A lot of documentation that needs to be written after the fact for a system to meet certification needs.

CareBear\, i see
CareBear\, well, good luck with that

Thanks.

how to automatical do “modprobe lp” when the system starts up?

reisio, don’t know…. are they?

I thought so, at least virtually – but I’ve never actually had to set one up, so don’t quote me on that :p
linux-laptop.net can probably tell you

place lp in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6

dmesg’
usually detected by the kernel mouse driver
you’ll also want to emerge the x11-drivers/synaptics package as well

friendly12345, ok… I’ll try
friendly12345, I’m doing it cause the scroll and the “click and drag” is not working

how do you start wpa_supplicant with iwl3945? i get nothing but errors, it keeps running tho’, but wpa_gui says it can’t connect, tried both eth1 (wmaster0 but it’s renamed to eth1 by udev) and wlan0_rename

hi, is there way to detect when the user changes virutal consoles (e.g. presses CTRL-ALT-F2), and to then respond to that change by running a script of some sort?

what is the best remote desktop server to emerge on gentoo?
and easiest

emerge the synaptics package then man synaptics —will tell you what to add to your xorg.conf

friendly12345, hum…. ok! thanks

er let’s see…

I like VNC
emerge tightnvc
tightvnc

yeah I’ve heard good things about tight

I have wpa_supplicant set to start automatically

you can certainly determine whether someone is in a console when they login

my X doesn’t redraw when I flip out to a text console and back, leaving me with a black screen

hmmz perhaps ps -Af or something will show the entire commandline

If I leave a terminal open, is imply type in ‘xrefreshENTER’ and it’s back
I want to automate

my /etc/conf.d/net is just modules=(“wpa_supplicant”) wpa_supplicant_renamedwlan=”-Dwext”

how’re you flipping back?

CTRL-ALT-f7

oh and I also use ifplugd

hrmm, I wonder why it doesn’t refresh itself

wpa_supplicant -B -ieth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext

do you logout of the console before you switch back?

not that exciting, but doesn’t work. build iwlwifi myself tho’ from the website using the mac80211 from the 2.6.22-gentoo-r?

could put xrefresh in ~/.bash_logout

no… when I start, I start into a text console, and start X using startx, I normally flip to console 1 to check error messages (from a program I’m writing)

not sure how best hosting to do that
but there probably is a nice way
maybe something with /etc/inittab

hmm check the man page for wpa_supplicant.conf – syntax may have changed
use the iwl3945 in portage,

2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -n -l /usr/local/sbin/autologin-reisio 38400 tty1

no the .conf works fine with the ipw3945 driver, it only contains essid’s, passwords etc for the networks to connect too

man agetty, maybe

no no wpa_supplicant syntax

yea will try that

cool thanks, will check it out

ah actually I guess that might just be for login/logout :/

*wpa_supplicant syntax not wpa_supplicant.conf syntax

even that works fine with ipw3945 i start it manually when i need it
i’ll try the ebuild for iwlwifi

ps shows wpa_supplicant -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -C/var/run/wpa_supplicant -W -B -irenamedwlan -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant-renamedwlan.pid
I seem to remember a reported bug on the forums that wpa_supplicant may, that’s *may* not work manually with the wireless stack
only auto

i’ll fiddle with a bit thx

I’m surprised wpa_supplicant works at all using Wext with the latest kernel

oh just one more q are you using 0.5.8 or 0.6.0 (i had 0.6.0 but then it got masked)
why? wext is what should become the api for all wireless cards
afaik atleast….

0.5.7

heh even lower k thx

no, wireless extensions is being deprecated

really? so what’s the new api going to be?

it’s a new wireless stack, created NOT by Intel

can somebody help-me? I just have one “Screen” section in my xorg.conf, and only only one “Display” subsection on it… and on this Display SubSection, there is only 1280×800… but it still being loaded using 1024×768!

? mac80211 is the stack, wext is the driver api afaik… oh well we’ll see way to many api’s now

er wext is a stack, not driver I think

hey everyone… if I forgot to emerge –oneshot some packages is it okay to manually remove them from /var/lib/portage/world?

let me guess – widescreen on an Intel card?

friendly12345, wow, exactly!
friendly12345, do you know how to solve?

915resolution

JackD, ?

yup

wait…what i810 driver?

friendly12345, 950GA

sorry
what version of i810 driver

sweet… so world doesn’t affect the package db at all, it’s just a list of things that should get rebuild when doing emerge world?

anyone knows why stepmania says that all mp3s are “unknown file format”? not even the menu music works (but playing them with mplayer is okay)

AFAIK, for the most part, anyways
ls /var/db/pkg/ and see for yourself

disregard

cool thanks

friendly12345, 1.7.4

if your i810 driver is 2.0.0 you need 915resolution to set widescreen resolutions

friendly12345, I can easyness upgrade to 2.0.0
friendly12345, is there it on portage?

otherwise the newer driver include 915resolution functionality
mzbot, wiki host chjunior 915resolution

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution
a href=”http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution”http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution/a

yea, it’s ~testing for x86

hmm how about not in bios video modes? i can’t run my console at 1400×1050 nor X w/o 915resolution cuz that videomode isn’t in the vga bios. which is stupid as it’s a laptop with a 1400×1050 screen, so they might as well make that the only bios mode

friendly12345, reisio, upgrading to 2.1.0

attaboy

is there a way to see what installed apps depend on a specific packagE?

reisio, what does means attaboy?

it means good job
emerge -n gentoolkit portage-utils

reisio, hummm good….
thanks

915resolution gives different output for supported BIOS modes with/without 915resolution having been run

then run ‘q’, or man equery

excellent thanks

eix attaboy yielded no matches!

? it replaces videomodes in the bios with other ones afaik, that’s how i use it anyway, i overwrite a 1280×1024 mode with a 1400×1050 one

sorry didn’t read that properly

with what program i can open *.ace arcive?

you don’t happen to know if they’ll fix the framebuffer driver do you? I can’t get 1400×1050 at boot cuz it’s not in the bios

you’re saying the card supports a mode that hacky BIOS querying can’t determine exists?

dunno what you mean by that

i have an issue
ever time i wanna use torrent i get a hardlock

again I’ve misread what you wrote

only a hard reset can get my system back

that’s the whole point of 915resolution, to get the full range of supported resolutions

haha you’re not smoking pot are you?

and i even got a message saing this is a hardware error

unace

wich part?

yea… oh well.. i just oughtta shoot the bios vendor … supplying me with useless 640×480 bios modes but no 1400×1050

ahaha..no, just tired and watching mindless TV at the same time

status error: status=0×58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdb is dvdrw

hi all
newbie here .)

Dan it’s not gui – if there is something whith gui?

hi. has anyone ever had to move a / partition. I’m okay when it comes to moving /tmp /var /usr etc etc, but my hdd is possible crashing and i need to move the whole partition to another drive

reisio, don’t think so

i’va a .bashrc file with some “usefull” alias, but when i logon it doesn’t work, what’s wrong?

k depclean just broke my gcc

No problem. Just copy and then re-run your boot loader setup.

what wm/de do you use?

reisio G0AC4
reisio sorry
xfce5
*4

4? :p
so ideally you’d want xarchiver to interface with unace

CareBear\, cp -ax right?
CareBear\, and i can update grub, fstab.. anything else need updating?

reisio i have xarchiver but it doesn’t open

I’ve stopped trusting cp. I use rsync -avcO these days. You may like –progress or –verbose too.

yeah that’s not surprising, but we can look for a patch for it

hi. i’m trying to rewrite on my apache but its not working, can anyone give me a hand?

twisted_g, dont forget a few required /dev entries or your system wont boot when they don’t exists and before udev loads

ok so I edited my make.conf to specify a video card and input devices. i re-emerged xorg-server, and now Xorg -configure still takes me directly to a black screen
and i can’t get out of it

:/ http://xarchiver.xfce.org/dev.html looks like the principal dev is on an open source horsey
maybe we can find a 3rd party

i gotta reboot

i have plone on http://myserver:8080/mysite and i want just http://mysite

anyone know if this video card is supported with ati drivers? VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)

hidrogen, if anyone here doesn’t know.. also try #apache

thanks grknight

bb, i don’t think so.. but that should be in the r128 driver

cool cool

ace was actually pretty popular when i was like 14 (14 years ago )

thanks CareBear\ , grknight
grknight, how do i know which dev entries are not created by udev?

Hi, I want to reinstall a kernel using chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash, but all time using rm, or chmod I see chmod: cannot access `./unifdef-1.20/make-tarball.sh’: Function not implemented, any idea?

twisted_g, you need at least /dev/null, /dev/console, /dev/tty1 and /dev/zero to be safe

you mean when you type ‘rm something’ it gives you that output?

is there a standard way to emerge a package without stripping debugging symbols?

FEATURES=nostrip

rm -rf linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8_old
cannot remove `linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8_old/CREDITS’: Function not implemented

add the debug USE flag?

kojiro, FEATURES=nostrip emerge foo ?

not all time, but yes

that and if you’re on 32-bit x86, make sure you don’t have -fomit-frame-buffer in CFLAGS

Do you have any idea?

kojiro, hm well i tried, how can i quicly check whether debug symbols are actually present in my binary?

I dunno, maybe scanelf or objdump can tell you

kojiro, ah yea, objdump -t looks good

did you mount proc and dev?

proc not sorry
now, seems to work, but trying to compie unifdef I see this warning, checking whether the C compiler works… configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs., any idea how to fix it?

hi, does anyone know what packages has the smb:// protocol kioslave for konqueror? mine says that smb protocol is not supported

heh, it’s a bad day, huh

hehehe

you need to set the samba use-flag

bin/sh: scripts/basic/fixdep: No such file or directory
using make trying to compile the kernel ;P

grknight, alright thanks

thanks, do you know what packages specifically?

are you sure you mounted everything before chrooting?

i don’t know exactly…
probably kdelibs and kdebase i guess

okay, i don’t have time to compile those now, but thanks. (only one hour of batteries left) i’ll try smb4k

or mount the shares, if you’ve got smb or cifs support in your kernel and samba installed

smbfs

nadar ist aus dem Uahlahub wieda daah! bin fix ueber hamburg nach paris geradelt

mzbot, teach nadar german

Fuer deutschprachige Unterstuetzung wende dich bitte an #gentoo.de

he’s just another /amsg (ab)user

hi i was wondering what can i do to announce myself on a dhcp network… like on windows it would happen automaticly if you set tyhe hostname ? the windows box is vmware.loc i wish to have my encoder box annouce itself as encoder.loc

ach ihr knickers, ihr seid ja so verknöchert wie die toitschen peamte
und wech

teach nadar about german

Fuer deutschprachige Unterstuetzung wende dich bitte an #gentoo.de

just set /etc/hosts ?

hkBst, that would be locally i want the windows box to see the encoder box automaticly something todo with NIS or search or some setting i am not aware of
and the ip addrsses change
so it would be pointless to change hosts files on the boxes

fran, that’s netbios which can be handled a few ways.. samba does that by itself though

i did mount -t smbfs //tuki/SharedDocs Tuki/ and the dmesg|tail error: smb_fill_super: missing data argument

grknight, what is the easy way of doing on a backbone encoder box

fran, doing what? share files?

no

fran, if you mean just tcp/ip, then you need a local DNS java server hosting to dish out names to numbers. it can be a linux box or a router

ok i have a network my own pc, a vmware box, and a encoder vmware being windows 2003 server. when i set it up i set the hostname to vmware.loc .loc being my network domain. didnt change hosts files or anything and the encoder saw it on vmware.loc automaticly… how can i annouce myself on the gentoo box to be visible by vmware and my localpc as encoder.loc

Windows uses lots of different name resolution methods.

grknight, i have a dhcp box. but i dont want to go configure it everytime i add a box. it happened automaticly with windows

hey everyone… I’m curious how emerge –clean works. I thought it would unmerge all my useless kernel sources, but it doesn’t. why is this?

One way is to just set up samba.

surely fedora linux has the same functionality

fran, DNS is the best way.. samba is a backup way though slower

CareBear\, i believe samba is a bad option being bloated and useless to me

ok well i got x running

of course just run a dns server!

Yet you want the functionality.

but i notice that i installed gnome-light and I have no gnome sessions defined in /etc/X11/Sessions

CareBear\, surely there is a kernel build in function

No, there is not.

flithm, read above about what i said about a dhcp server

Certainly nothing in the kernel.

im pretty sure there should be a way

First you should investigate what it is you really want to accomplish, the technical details.

i know what i want

hi. I’d like to shape the IP traffic going to an ip address host address (as apposed to a device, such as eth0). Is that possible?

err sorry I meant dhcp server

fran, dhcp has very little to do with name resolution

and i have made it clear what i want already
grknight, wrote the wrong word

sorry I think I jumped into the middle of a conversation. I’ll stay out

It will probably be either to register with a DNS server, or to answer to NetBIOS name lookup broadcasts.

dhcp_eth0=(“nodns nontp nonis”)
one of those should be changed
and it would happen automaticly im sure of it

The former can probably be done with several different DHCP clients.
The latter requires samba.

CareBear\, samba is a network share system
i do not require or want it on my box at any point

No, not quite. It’s a lot more than that.

fran, the two methods win* mainly uses are NetBIOS (which is part of samba) and DNS

i think you want to use samba’s winbind, that’s what does windows’ netbios name resolution

smbd (which does file and printer sharing) is just one of the programs in samba.

is there something i can use to measure hdd activity?

there should be a smaller version of sambas winbind then
does anyone know

fran, the most flexible way is to just emerge bind and set it up

I use gkrellm2, but there’s plenty of options

grknight, this is a corporate firm
it would be a bad idea to randomly make dns servers

I do like gkrellm2 for that too

Others are nmbd (which is what answers NetBIOS name resolution queries) and winbindd (which is used by your system to do name resolution the Windows way)

hello there gentoo folks…I have a strange problem…grub can’t start my windows partition because of a minor error in my grub.conf
the problem is
my grub conf is gone :/

mount /boot ?

mount /boot

mount?
ill try it

I think you could benefit from reading up on samba a bit. They have really good documentation.

anyone here have a macbook running gentoo?

Look into nmbd in particular.

CareBear\, samba is the most commonly haxcked software application on linux
i dare not install it

o thanks! can someone now explain what the heck I did

um

CareBear\, i currently have 7 0days for samba

Then it’s settled.

nod

to just fetch the packages but not build them, i do ‘emerge -FuDv world’ as root right?

You must be really elite.

nopers

why did I have to mount /boot? and from where did I do it?

for a system update

just invormed

PrincessKhorde, /boot isnt normally mounted during startup

a-ha gnome-light doesn’t come with gdm

anyone here have a macbook running gentoo?

i’m a unix beginner so I’m not well familiar with how the system works

elite, 1337 muhahahaha
good day all

“and pump send the current hostname to the DHCP server by default so you don’t need to specify this anymore.”

It is not really correct to say that gentoo is hosting on unix based servers

but I already had the boot folder in /, but when you mount it…from where do you take the data? doesn’t / show all files on the computer

linux != unix

unix-like system :P

mount attaches directory trees to the main tree (/). Your fstab file says that /boot is some particular partition.

oh boot is on another partition!
thanks hkBst

There may be other technical methods to achieve what you want of course.
Other than the two I mentioned.

i hope so

But those two would be the most common.

hey all, emerging xsane complains about needint sane 1.0.0 or newer, but I have sane-backends 1.0.18 emerged?

my pleasure

hi guys. is there a few step process to setting up an install cd with my own wlan drivers?

But, again, please look into exactly what it is you want to achieve (in technical terms) and ask again.

i tried to tell you

I read “I want name resolution to work”
But not much about the details.
Which are important in order to give advice.

for your own use? DO you have trouble installing?

Well you “just” need to make your own kernel.

well, I need to put some wlan drivers on a CD so that I can use my SMCWUSB32 card
and I have to compile my own wlan drivers to do it

Which hardware is inside it?

compaq presario v2410us
but the wlan card is USB

No, it was last. What’s inside the wifi thing?

anyone have any experience with gnome-light ?

ohh I remember compaq presario are great monitors

yup

i’m having problems startingx with gnome after installing gnome light and I’m wondering if I NEED gdm or if I’m just doing something wrong

i’m still using an MV740 from 2002

i seem to be missing the gnome session in X11

i have another question, with what command do you kill jobs? in solaris at school I use ctrl-c

prism2

but it doesnt work
only the ctrl-z command works

um…
Ctrl-C _does_ work

You shouldn’t need to make your own drivers for that.

prism2_usb, but I need to add a line to the wlan-ng source code to get it detected
because it’s only supported by wlan-ng under an edit

it does? it works sporadically for me PeanutHorst… when I use man shutdown for instance..it only works when I’ve reached the end of the file and sometimes it doesnt even work there

that’s because ‘man’ is an interactive command
some apps will intercept C-c

oh ok

like vi, emacs, nroff(man), bc, irssi, etc.
for man, use ‘q’

in solaris it didnt seem to be like, atleast not when I used putty from home

man is not running nroff “to” the user – that’s less.

each time i used ctrl-c in a “man job ” it worked

Or whatever configured pager.

for vi, :wq, for bc, ‘quit’, for emacs C-x C-x

What is the preferred email client among linux users?

mutt, pine I think

Up to you. I like mutt. Many like Thunderbird or Evolution

thunderbird?

matter of preference. IMO ‘Pine’ is pretty solid on the CLI
for GUI, Evolution

pine has a real problem with large mailboxes though.

Ok, thanks. I’ll check them.

(10k+ messages)

For geek users, cat

I do use less to read mail sometimes.

cat aint geeky

so, you are a geek

this is true

cat displaying text on screen is a side effect of its implementation

lol

not its actual purpose
you should know that as a “geek”
:p

well, let’s see if the wlan card works
brb

lol PeanutHorst

i really can’t talk, emerge is being a bitch to me, but i know linux userland theory relatively well

do i need fix_libtool_files.sh if i upgrade from gcc 3.4.6-r1 to 3.4.6-r2?

I’m all ears (aka .. I’m listening to you) whatever you write

i seem to have a problem
that has reared its ugly head

:o

AFTER an experiment with enlightenment DR17

smg, nope

which i cleaned up after

okay

(because i was using overlays and stuff)

experiments are always bad

burkhardth@horst-tla ~ $ sudo emerge -pFuDv world 2&1 | tee emerge.log
output is at http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html

dude what is happening with qt-4.3 and gentoo?
(x86 architecture)

and gcc-4.2 ?

well said

come on please don’t do that :P I compiled 3 times qt-4.3

I guess you made an error with creating the overlay

“creating” ?

first qt-4.3 then -r1 and now -r2!

i used Gentoo’s

PeanutHorst, have you used layman w/ -k option

didn’t know how

the directory is /usr/portage/xeffects/ not xeffects/trunk

bug 188209

https://bugs.gentoo.org/188209 nor, P2, AMD64, nils@ohlmeier.de-bug-wranglers@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, DUPLICATE, qt-4.3.1 fails to compile hosting on amd64 with gcc 4.2

ok
layman -k didn’t do anything
was I meant to give it a further parameteR?

yes but why does this affect x86?

you are using layman right ?

i honestly don’t know
well, yes i am

I dunno, do you get a different error?

how did you create your portdir anyway ?

but it’s complex… i think i nuked some of my overlays when i emerge –synched

overlay*

I’ve got a server that has had a super high load average for the past day. i’ve restarted everything running on it and it still is sitting at ~20. What kind of things should i look for when i do a ‘ps aux’ to figure out why?

using the instructions on the wiki for installing Compiz Fusion

It usually sits around 1-3

No I don’t mean I get an error. I said that I compiled qt-4.3 3 times in 3 days! Because of -r1 and -r2 I was curious about it that’s all

http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Overlay

top ?

can someone tell me how a normal user becomes able to mount? isnt that possible?

PeanutHorst, y (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_xeffects – check green line)

/etc/fstab

top and use “” and “” key to sort column

I_R_Baboon: I used svn co

isnt that only for booting?

for the xeffects stuff

ah, I see well, check the changelog

ahh

but that isn’t the problem

so you are not using layman
I told you already what the problem is

the problem is i have a bit of enlightenment dr17 muck stuck in my portage somehow

yeah.. i’ve run top.. but most of the stuff i see there has been restarted

add users group at fstab for the partitions you want to mount and add your user to group users

you add “user” or users to the mount options in fstab

evas and ecore are part of enlightenment, and they are what are stopping things accoridng to the output of emerge
and i know for e17 i _DID_ use layman
but the portdir_verlay is no longer in my make.conf for that

look at this

+qt-4.3.0-r2.ebuild:

Patch wasn’t applied in previous ebuild revision due to a typo.
how funny

PeanutHorst, ok my bad (in that case -k does not apply). Santanabaer is right (overlay is xeffects)

2 hours of compiling due to a typo

heh

hey everyone… how reliable is emerge –depclean? It says I have 400+ packages to remove. Should I believe it?

try first emerge -DuN world
and then emerge –depclean

did the DuN world, and now doing depclean

please do: less /etc/make.conf | grep PORTDIR_OVERLAY

then a revdep-rebuild ;-)

my initramfs is hosed… can I boot a livecd, mount my root fs, and run update-initramfs?

haha right

flithm, serious

Santanabaer:
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=”/usr/portage /usr/local/portage /usr/portage/xeffects”

sorry I know you were serious I was laughing because I couldn’t imagine not doing a revdep-rebuild after that

how many packages do you have?

flithm, just making sure

hmm ok that is correct …

1458

christ

*nod*

yeah I’ve been running a single gentoo install for like 6 years without ever cleaning it up

then do it
I have 500 :P

flithm, you could always ‘less’ through them and make sure its nothing wierd

true eh
it weird me out a bit because hotplug is in there for example… don’t I need that?!

flithm, I don’t have hotplug, but not sure

flithm, hotplug/coldplug are dead and replaced by latest udev

1 sec I’m checking my configs

ahhh cool… this depclean actually is smarter than me nice

I know coldplug was, not about hotplug

I don’t have hotplug

PeanutHorst, PORTDIR_OVERLAY=”/usr/portage /usr/local/portage /usr/local/portage/xeffects/trunk” maybe ?

…..
that isn’t the flippin’ problem!

well here goes nothin

I know what the problem is

http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html ahh noo ?

i have explained it
I do not know the solution however

so what is the problem?

flithm, good luck and let us know

the problem – if you looked at the output of emerge instead of the portdir cruft – is that bits of enlightenment dr17 are in my dependency tree somehow!

thanks!

when they shouldn’t be, i might add

Hi, I am trying to use a backup using tar cvfzp usr_bin /usr/bin, but when I use this thar on other sistem, the symlinks are not correct, it uses a empty files with no permisions instead, any idea?

we looked at the output of emerge

yeah…
did you notice this bit?
Calculating world dependencies -
there are no ebuilds to satisfy “=x11-libs/evas-0.9.9″.
(dependency required by “x11-libs/ecore-0.9.9.037″ [installed])
!!! Problem resolving dependencies for x11-wm/e
!!! Depgraph creation failed.

of course I have the entire log under my eyes

pastebin

http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html

any more than those five lines and i would have

thats what he showed before

My new hard drive keeps sounding like it’s constantly seeking all over. Any ideas how to get rid of that?

ignore line 1 of that paste for a while then
because i know it is not the problem,

You solve that by using bugs.gentoo.org

/usr/portage $ echo */evas
*/evas

hey all, emerging xsane complains about needint sane 1.0.0 or newer, but I have sane-backends 1.0.18 emerged..?

… i have about 4 hours to have this … fixed… all I need is someone who understands the enlightenment dr17 overlay and portage
CareBear\: um… echo just repeats what’s on screen… :|

Well we know portage well enough, but I don’t know what issues there may be in the overlay.

” serious vulnerabilities in OpenBSD’s Systrace, Sudo, Sysjail, the TIS GSWTK framework, and CerbNG…bypasses access control, virtualization, and intrusion detection in under 20 lines of C code consisting solely of memcpy() and fork()”.

actually my guess was that evas belongs to the xeffects overlay

well it doesn’t

hi all, could root have a .bashrc?

oops wrong channel

it belongs to dr17

bash does wildcard expansion first.

then you should add the dr17 overlay

ADD it?
but i want to get rid of this cruft! :|
ok, i’ll go find where i dumped it

do you want enlightenment or not ?

could root have a .bashrc?

Yes

sure

yes i do

the standar gentoo-wiki doesn’t help you?

i don’t understand why for me don’t work

I remember I got it to work but without overlay

for normal user it work, but as root not

How do you force bash to refresh it’s file location cache?

Portage may need to build a dependency graph even if you are going to remove stuff. That means you’ll need access to the overlay.

i’m not using Beryl

.. /etc/profile usually does it for me.

i’m using Compiz Fusion – which is still only in subversion
CareBear\: ok…

yes

ok, i am doing the overlay thing now

good

is there a way I can alert myself when a service stops?
mysql seems to be stopping all by itself

CareBear\: Perfect, thanks, I wonder why source clears it though

Yeah. I haven’t investigated.

hi

hi Reaver_

does beryl remove direct rendering?

No

for some reason I’m not getting direct rendering with my user account, but I am with root.
the only difference I can see is the user has xgl and beryl

hypertransport sync flood error
Press F1 to resume
anyone know what that could be?

I ve never seen that before

reboot

your motherboard acting up

i got it 3 times

TheLorax, xorg.conf (last lines dri 0666 blablabla commented ?)

my comp is like 2 months old

Reaver_, sounds like a bios error

google it
is your computer over heating?
can you go into bios and check?

i did try to google it without any results

have you overclocked your CPU at all?
changed the clock frequency or core voltage?

has anyone gotten rdesktop to connect to Vista?

i did do a bios update through windows though

thankyou, it is working now
should i use emerge -FuDv world , or emerge -fuDv world ?

Reaver_, sounds to me that introduced the error

“emerge -uDav world” no f or F

no..
I want only to fetch the packages
so i can make use of my off-peak time
to avoid wasting bandwidth
and parallel fetch is limited in what it can do
but which F ? the f or the F ?

f, F will grab stuff for other arches and all use flags…
unless you want that

yeah, my smcwusb32 wasn’t detected by gentoo

f.

and unfortunately, the gentoo install cd didn’t load the bcm43xx firmware for my internal wlan device

did you install already? any other cd which supports it?

what cds support it?

ty hkBst

hey all… i’m having an issue with the Nvidia drivers on a GeForce 8400M. the drivers work ok, and i get 3d etc, but upon logout of X i get a full system freeze
any suggestions or pointers on how to resolve this bug?

What’s a system supposed to do when running out of physical memory and no swap is present?
I just had this and the hard drive light started flashing indicating high I/O, and the computer froze

The OOM handler in the kernel will kill off some process to free up memory.

where can I get the latest development sources for gentoo?
I want to see if it works in that

I could move my mouse only every 5 seconds or so

That is called thrashing.

why did you disable swap?

CareBear\: is that normal?

did you install already???

(this behavior)

no
nope, didn’t install yet

I disabled swapping because I wanted to diagnose a performance issue

no

Yeah, it happens. I get that sometimes too, and I actually prefer it over OOM-kill most of the time.

I need wlan to get the install files

CareBear\: how can you prefer that? I had to reboot…

well, don’t absolutely need
but I don’t feel like it’s worth all that effort

try one of the cd’s here: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?pkg=linux&pkgver=2.6.22.1#pkgsearch

Then I can set up swap or manually choose which program to kill – rather than the OOM handler killing off something I have not saved in a long time.

the system was so unusable that after 2 minutes of waiting I just rebooted. I would have prefered to have a process killed

you can use any cd which recognizes your hardware and install Gentoo by following our handbook.

CareBear\: doing anything with the computer was absolutely not possible.

Hi, would it be better to use vanilla 2.6.23 or gentoo-sources 2.6.22 w/ the CFS patches?

No typing in a terminal, no nothing

sorry, that link is no good

* ERROR: cannot start netmount as net.eth0~ could not start

I have tried gentoo rawhide’s setup cd
at least, I think I have

I’ve gotten that too. And if the kernel is left thrashing it does get worse, so I can usually avoid it by reacting quickly when I see the symptoms.

Hmm, in my case, no quick reaction was possible

Killing the wrong process is worse than a reboot, for me, though.
Anyway.

As soon as it went over the edge it basically started spinning infinitely it seemed.
What I was surprised about is that the hard drive started trashing

I’m not sure when the OOM-handler will be invoked and when not.

why would the OS start using the hard drive if no swap is there??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrash_(computer_science)

trick question?

is there a way to reload my permissions (in this case, the groups that I’m in) without logoff-login ?

No

newgrp bash
newgrp groupname
sorry
will start a new shell as groupname

anybody have experience with nvidia drivers?

CareBear\: Hmm, I see how it can happen

Might as well login then

For example if the OS tries to load a file from disk but does not have the RAM to load it into, right?

There is no way to change the current bash groups

then it will reload and reload and reload the file for ever

No it will terminate the program trying to load

Well, in my case it did not.

Depending on the memory manager it may retry and retry, trying to do clever things with the RAM in use.

Unless the program has special handling for when the OS tells it there is no RAM availble

DoYouKnow, smcwusb32 uses linux-wlan-ng i think (not sure)

hum…..

Anyway, going out of RAM on my system is basically a disaster… I reactivated swap.

joshwest, what is your problem?

You must be loading something that makes a seriusly big RAM allocation
The kernel autokills random programs when it runs out of memory

It’s not random AFAIK.

yeah, it does

And I’m not sure “run out of” is so easy to define.

brb

The memory manager may try to optimize memory usage in order to free up more space, that would make the call succeed.

I’ve run out of memory plenty of times over the years
There is a difference between being out of memory for a program and out of memory for the kernel

Yes, so have I, but I haven’t seen consistent behavior.

CareBear\, bye

The kernel does not accept being out of memory and fixes it.

Well we’re talking the system as a whole here.
That’s a good point though.
kmalloc() will trigger OOM-kill
Whereas malloc() may not.
Until the kernel needs more RAM.
To do something.

There’s a problem

I always run out of kernel memory, I’ve yet to see a pure malloc error, or maybe it’s happenign a few seconds/hours (if we are dead in swap) before it crashes

The kernel never kills an application because brk() fails.
But libc may. And the app may ignore libc and retry brk().

I can’t emerge java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1 with USE=”java”.

Anyway, you can be proactive with all this by using ulimit

why not?

Heh, when you first start using ulimit you learn a thing or two.

because its masked

Yes I was using a program that made a 300 MB allocation when it started trashing

here’s my log file. but I forgot where to put online

thrashing – note the h

ok

http://www.rafb.net/paste/

has anyone ever used the Dell open manager server update utillity on a gentoo system

It’s a Java program with the memory option… that may be special, I don’t know

sounds scary

Aah, automatic trash memory managers.

maybe.

i just want to update the firmware of the raid controller

http://rafb.net/p/qWwRWo65.html

Did some time with lua, had to teach all of the WoW community that just because it’s automatic doesn’t mean it has brans and you still need to program to take advantage of a trash language

I’m frome Taiwan.

what’s the WoW community?

Took me half a year to enlighten the community before there was widespread memory programing technique changes
World of Warcraft uses LUA as scripting language. LUA is open source. www.lua.org

the doc use flag pulls in those silly packages that are fetch-restricted. Either you disable doc use flag or you fetch the sources for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1 and dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.5.0-r1 manually

ha, Lua for World of Warcraft. funn
y

I recommend the first option

But that has little to do with your issue a 300 MB allocation doesn’t involve the trash recovery system

you may only need to disable it for dev-java/sun-jdk

And besides Java has a better trash system afaik

I don’t know. All i can tell you is that I have 1GB physical RAM, had swap disabled
RAM usage was already at 850MB or so

hi all

i dont get mergedfb to work. any ideas where to start?

then I loaded a Java program with XXXmx=300m
and… bam!
whole system froze
After waiting 2 mins I rebooted.

Hrm, weird

I think I can reproduce that consistently.

I’ve several questions about the package management system.

ElvanorAtWork, you should have waited longer, it takes about 5min for my OOM killer to come up.

I already had this twice.

I can’t 5 GB RAM is hard to use up.

maybe but seeing the hard drive up was freaking

gogogo

so I prefered to reboot

how large is the portage tree?

Around 200 MB I think

any suggestions on a DNS server….is bind still the way to go or is there something thats equivalent but easier?

Thats the portage tree itself without packages and distfiles

with distfiles that must be easily over 50 GB

eclean distfiles is your friend

http://rafb.net/p/CXNC9863.html

so if I run “emerge –sync” it will download the 200MB tree?

I usually just do a cd /usr/portage/distfiles && rm *
no

No, it will rsync it
That means downloading changes

I like to keep my distfiles =P It gives me a good feeling knowing I have the source for all my apps =P

eclean distfiles isn’t rm distfiles

even for the first time? after installing gentoo from cd?

sinsarrummzen thats what the internet is for :-) they can hold the source somewhere else for me

does anybody here have any experience with anjuta 2.2?

the first time you install a portage snapshot, so you already have something

Miravlix, then what does it do?

man eclean

Miravlix, I did…

remove obsolete portage sources

Miravlix, then I should clarify, I like to have the sources for all software I use and software I have used in the past =P

is packages.gentoo.org down for some reason?

yes, being broken

teach alunduil pgo

packages.gentoo.org is down until further notice.

alunduil, yea =(

ok, thanks guys

what happened with –depclean?

why USE=”java” need gcc 3.3.6. I’ve installed GCC4.20. why I have to install 3.3.6?

Is there a way to extract the action script from a swf flash file? I don’t have the original fla file anymore and would like to look at my old code… And also I dont have any flash running..

teach sinsun gcc-3

Some packages, usually pre-compiled binary packages such as mozilla-firefox-bin, are written in C++ and are only compatible with the C++ runtime library provided by gcc-3.x. If this is the case then you can avoid having to install gcc-3.x entirely by installing libstdc++-v3 beforehand: emerge -1 sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

teach arrummzen why pgo down?

No such faq

yup, they’re often called “decompilers”

teach sinsun gcc-3

Some packages, usually pre-compiled binary packages such as mozilla-firefox-bin, are written in C++ and are only compatible with the C++ runtime library provided by gcc-3.x. If this is the case then you can avoid having to install gcc-3.x entirely by installing libstdc++-v3 beforehand: emerge -1 sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

/etc/portage/package.use”. and then emerge as usual

do I remember right ? did I get from you that script with listing of the non system files ?

yes, that’s correct.

apparently the devs fouled up and didn’t include libstdc++-v3 in recent installation media

fouled up?

thx, guys, youre really kindness

couldn’t that be fixed with the first sync?

No need for c++-v3 for most people

thanks

alright, so I’m not allowed to sync more than once per day to a single rsync server, but is it acceptable for me to do emerge –sync on 128 gentoo nodes if I set them to use different mirrors?

bye all

(once per week).

yeah fouled up, the gcc upgrade guide recommends it, IIRC
’s’what I call a foul up

the problem is not that it isn’t included (it would be spurious as a base system package), rather that it’s not chosen as the default package to fulfil the =virtual/libstdc++-v3.3 virtual.

I would suggest you keep a single local copy.

in fact if anyone ever comes to #gentoo asking about it, I call it a foul up :p

Then you can sync to that.

I really ought to file a bug about it. I’ve been meaning to for ages.

sure

Trying to boot gennt I see this error on bootsptrap, /dev/sda1 is not a valid root device, any idea how to fix it?

mzbot, teach arrummzen sync to local copy.

No such faq

yeah, I know what you mean :p

ahh cool I am still very thankfull for the script works great I went through the list many times … I imagined the script could have been extended with a equery depends for every package … something like an if case : (show the package if equery depends .. doesnt show any packages in the list ) do you think its possible to do ?

heh

mzbot, teach arrummzen why won’t you work for me?

No such faq

teach is a keyword lookup
single word…

mzbot, teach arrummzen sync

/msg mzbot help

SYNC, defined in /etc/make.conf, contains the location of the rsync mirror Portage should use to update the Portage tree. It defaults to rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage but you can change this using the mirrorselect application. A good choice is rsync://rsync.${countrycode}.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage.

there is one running in linux?

it’s like in the one hand, you can file a bug, or in the other hand, you can just sit on your butt 24/7 and tell someone how to fix it every now and then for eternity :p

if you want to play with the bot, please do it in a private window

local means internal in your LAN.

Heh, the help is just about as usefull as trying to open Windows

I can’t think of any flash decompilers for linux… not that I’ve really looked

hey, at least I am telling people how to fix it. I wrote that entry.
reisio:

there are disassemblers, but I don’t think they output AS
a flash decompiler for win32 would probably work inside Wine

If you’re root on 128 machines that should be a breeze to set up.

yeah I found some dumpers and analyzers.

heheh

the truth is, I don’t know why it isn’t chosen as the default package to fulfil the virtual on gcc-4 using profiles yet. I’d like to know why and what the solution is before filing a bug.

I think you want to set up a local rsync mirror: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gentoo+rsync+mirror&btnG=Search

ok, I try to get the win32 thing in this case…

also, I don’t use gcc-4 so it’s a bit tricky for me to test fixes

yeah, it’s always nice to avoid the first comment being ‘bug closed invalid, you suck, newbie’

haha

I keep forgetting, what’ s the app name for generating random password again?

still, regardless of the technicals – there _is_ a bug somewhere

hmm. I’ll put stow that one away and consider it later. I have to get back to work now.

kio, pwgen is one

cat
place cat on keyboard

apg

thx cahoot

I see, that should work.

alright hey its great that you help me so much

We have a virtual that depends on gcc-3 or libstdc++v3

didn’t know apg, but thx mtnbkr

I tried to write the extension myself = I failed :P

ok

We seem to lack the feature for selecting the prefaired dependency in ebuilds
Doesn’t seem buggy to me, just a Columbus Egg

yeah, check itout. lots of options to custmize the type and length of passwords it generates

it’s a bug, because if they’d installed Gentoo a year ago and updated following guides, they would have libstdc++-v3 and gcc 4 right now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus

and wouldn’t show up here puzzled
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Juan_Ponce_de_Leon

looks like your article got deleted

btw … guys … do you have an idea how I can delete the qt designer and the assistent off my system … I dont know which package is responsable for it
I never ever installed them … they came automaticly

how do you know they are there?

because they appeared in my xfce startmenu

I’ve fixed everything on gentoo eccept net.etho it still won’t let me start apache2 or netmoun.
netmount

I know I use qt because its a dependency of many other applications … but I never wanted the qt designer and the assistant

and if you click the menu item?

There has got to be a fix for this?

Fix for what, your not providing any error

if I click the menu item it opens of course

then you probably just need to unmerge it

* ERROR: cannot start apache2 as net.eth0~ could not start

run qfile (portage-utils) on the executable to determine its package

ahh
thats interesting

*** glibc detected *** /bin/sh: malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0×00000000007b3a80 *** – any ideas?

* ERROR: cannot start apache2 as net.eth0~ could not start

Stop trying to start net.eth0~
You polute the rc system

wwhat do I do then?

Never seen anyone do this before, so not entirely sure how to unpolute the rc system. perhaps /etc/init.d/net.eth0~ zap

Bad RAM
Or buggy code, produced by crazy CFLAGS
But my money is on bad RAM.

memtest86+ to confirm a case of bad RAM?

argh

well I’ll try anything now.

anyone know of a handy usb image to boot memtest86?
does the gentoo live cd’s have memtest on them?

check the memtest hp I think they have boot imqages

prompt

Yes.

thx

memtest86 even

Ill be back in hours

something like that yeah
i’d suggest something newer, though.

oh I found a 2006.something
seeyas!

/etc/init.d/net.eth0~: No such file or directory

make it then

anyone here using eclipse with gentoo ? I got a question about jdk/jre versions needed (it loads more then I guess I need)

How do I show package dependencies ?

or equery g package

#gentoo-java

hkBst, thanks

ironfoot495, cd /etc/init.d/ && rm -rf net.eth0* && ln -s net.lo net.eth0

This is what the win32 flash decompiler says in wine: “This program has been damaged, possibly by a bad sector of the hard drive or a virus. Please reinstall it.”

He needs net.eth0~ not net.eth0

hmmm ok I assume the qt assistant and designer are part of the use flag qt3support

s/ironfoot395/I_R_Baboon/

I am re-emerging qt now
hope that they are gone then

which one?
(decompiler)
equery from gentoolkit, or q from portage-utils

which one is depreciated ?

mmm, portage-utils is hipper, but it’s worth having them both

if I had to learn one, which should it be ?

you don’t have to learn just one, though :p

3 qfile

thats why i was just saying hypothetically.

You make it sounds like your choosing between being Einstain or Doctor Do Little

Miravlix, o_O

they do different things and things differently
just get them both and enjoy :p

But also
3 revdep-rebuild
so do get both

vim or emacs, gnome or kde,

Do both

Sara Jessica Parker or Hillary Scott

www.flash-decompiler.com. It doesn’t find fd.dll

maybe you need fd.dll, then
who’s Hillary Scott?

it was just a demo anyway (w/o actonscript export). need to ask my donkey..

look it up.

that’s a strange thing to be
if you give me a copy of the SWF, I can decompile it later and get it to you

uhmm, genkernel all it modifies my /boot/grub/menu.lst ?

There’s a topic in here somewhere… we’ll find it eventually.

ah, don’t know her, but she’s less than a month younger than me, that’s far out :p

if you have the time: http://www.nyk.ch/avi/nyk.swf …but the donkey had many decompilers to try in wine..

the donkey :p
well I have a winders system I can reach via RDP
and another upstairs
will leave you a memo with a URI, later

thanks!

is there any idea for the future to split the huge OO into nice little parts like it was done with kde?

Hi! How do I find out the ebuilds that depend on ebuild X? A reverse variant of qdepends, so to say…

I guess this is not gentoo s decision

can somebody help-me? http://rafb.net/p/dzjH2H44.html

hello

you should go to an OO channel

could it not be arranged through an ebuild?

nah … since the ebuild downloads a source
and the source is given by the openoffice website
so it is up to them to split it

yes, thats the next place im going to visit

If you want to pursue that, file a feature enhancement request on bugs.gentoo.org.

does it make sense to ask there ?

But more than likely, it’s something you will have to take charge of yourself.
Much more so there, than here. This channel is for supporting Gentoo, not changing it.

of course

fyi, the official openoffice channel is #openoffice.org

probably right, i was just wondering or asking myself whether there is already something like this going on
shutting up

Searching bugs.gentoo.org would also be a good idea.

can somebody help-me? http://rafb.net/p/dzjH2H44.html

but thx however

but since he is talking about OO split … I guess bugs.gentoo.org is the wrong place too … infact lets say from the example of the change from xorg-x11 to modular xorg … it wasnt a change done by gentoo …

try looking at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4169275.html?sid=8dafcc6300e86db05024cc4256bfbc15

Your plea for help does not include a statement of the problem and what you’ve done to try and fix it.

someone can help-me, df show to me erroneous space on disk: http://rafb.net/p/Qr9drK23.html

How is it erroneous?

see http://rafb.net/p/Qr9drK23.html

If you’re dealing with a large number of files, file system overhead can account for a lot of that.
Particularly, a large number of small files… such as what you’d find on /var

also if files have been unlinked but are held open by a process

is /var, and I remove about 2G of files from he
but he not shows these 2G free

chronos That happens if some program still has the 2GB files open
philw++

lol

hum

The answer is qdepends -Q

I’m using a multilib profile on an AMD64 system, I’d like to know if there is a way to *force* a package to compile as a 32bit binary instead of 64bit.

Compile it from a 32-bit chroot and binpkg it?

I notice that some applications compile by default as 32bit. like Wine. Which makes sense, since not all apps work on 64bit yet. but if I need an app to be 32bit, and there is a 64bit build available, it will automatically use the 64bit build.

hello

hey

Is that really the only way?

chjunior, i gess your x fails to start (have you changed monitor? have you tried Xorg -configure or xorgconfig?)

I don’t know if it’s the only way. Just one option.

I tried using keywords to do it.. like -* x86 .. but that didn’t work, I imagine it’s because the keywords are just there to tell you if a package supports a particular arch, once the package is downloaded, the arch it compiles to is determined by the configure script.

I_R_Baboon, yes, it’s failing…. and no… I don’t changed my monitor…. I still using the notebook’s LCD

not the keywords.

in fact hame some files opened
files that I deleted

I suppose the only way would be to pass options to the configure script, but can I tell emerge to pass options to it?

I_R_Baboon, some idea?

chjunior, where are you from? Brazil? Anyway try reconfiguring X

I_R_Baboon, yes, brasil….
I’m trying….. =/

you changed xorg.conf some time later?

And I’m not even sure the method I suggested would work, to be honest.

hm..

chronos, I_R_Baboon X working again!

hum, right

there has to be a way.. i mean the whole point of multilib is to be able to use apps that are either 64bit or 32bit..
and i have both 32bit and 64bit compilers.

when i try to mount

chjunior, “help-me” – “ajuda-me” lol

see, lsof shows my opened files http://rafb.net/p/j1GGKr58.html

I_R_Baboon, wow, really

maybe i have to edit the ebuild or something.

I_R_Baboon, but I think that help-me still right

/etc/init.d/syslog-ng restart
Or maybe even just killall -1 syslog-ng

chjunior, “help me” anyway it doesn’t matter (this is not an english grammar channel)

But I’m not sure what syslog-ng does on SIGHUP

hum, this server is running on production …
restart syslog … hum

Advice in here is dispensed without warranty. If you need professional support for a professional environment you should get a contract with a company.

I_R_Baboon, yeah yeah…. you’re right

To be completely honest, noone in here really cares what happens to your production system.

when i try to mount a samba share with a normal user it says “cannot mount on /mnt/share: Operation not permitted smbmnt failed: 1″. my /etc/fstab entry is like “//ip/share/ /mnt/share smbfs notauto,user 0 0″ does anybody have a clue?

restarted
I assume risc

I_R_Baboon, but thanks to “help me” with my english too it’s always good to get improved….

;-)
I’m not admin of this server, and not have one .

greetings all

syslog-ng should close off all it’s files on SIGHUP so that would probably have worked just as well.
I hate to break it to you, but if you’re the only one with root – you _are_ the admin.

i have a usb controller i want to use for gaming. how can i tell if my system even knows how to read the controler? and whats a good NES emulator that allows u to have a controler?

y in the kernel for sata to work properly ?

CareBear\: I’m not only with root
CareBear\: thx for help.

Yes

cool

Welcome.

rebuilding kernel

good bye

Now does one display a user’s CUPS print quota?
s/Now/How

hello

‘lo
wiki controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xbox_360_controller_on_Linux

wiki game controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Compile_a_Kernel_Manually

wiki usb controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_XPS_Gen_2

:p

my icewm doesn’t start as lacks of fonts like -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*, I installed adobe-fonts-75dpi. so where can I get the fonts needed to start IceWM?

Comments off

when i try to mount a samba share with a normal user it says cannot mount on -mnt-share Operation not permitted

i’ll give it a whirl
the first time i installed i used a different install procedure that used genkernel, i’m wondering if i don’t have support for my vmware grafx

doubt that’s it

well, i didn’t have any video cards or input devices specified in my make.conf
just checked. the gentoo.org x86 quickinstall skips a lot of steps, i should’ve used the wiki one again

yeah, it does skip a lot

anyway, should I re-emerge xorg-server now that I set those options in make.conf ?

yes
I don’t know if you need to re-emerge anything else, but I know that’s one

emerge or emerge -u

i have FEATURES=”userpriv” and my ebuild that uses subversion.eclass to check out something from svn complains about not enough permissions
/usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src is root:portage owned
is this a permissions problem or should i change the ebuild?

how safe is upgrading linux-headers from 2.6.17-r2 to 2.6.21? 2.6.21 is stable? i ran into a couple of compile errors after upgrade

I’m using 2.6.22 with zero problems
with 2.6.21 headers

21 or 22? my kernel is 21

vladsharp^2|busy: /join #gentoo-dev-help ?

ah thanks

btw, downgrading fixed the compile host issues. so which version to use?
17, 21, or 22?
do i have to recompile other packages after i upgrade the headers (except glibc)?

someone use azureus?
someone know how to cancell pop ups?

is there klips-support in the gentoo-sources (for openswan)

wiki ctx144k openswan

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_OpenSwan_2.6_kernel

reisio, ok, that i have done
my kernel has the right options compiled in
i need to connect to a cisco-machine with a preshared key
ipsec__plutorun: …could not start conn “foobar”
i have no idea why…
ipsec verify shows me the correct values like it that sample

How do you disable swapping?
(temporarily)

swapoff /dev/partition

Is commenting out the /etc/fstab line enough?

no, that will work on reboot only

if you’d reboot yes

/dev/sda2: Cannot allocate memory
That means I don’t have enough RAM to store all my swap or what?

hi, what’s the pkg name for pgp?

gnupg

ah, thx vladsharp^2|busy

vladsharp^2|busy: swapoff: /dev/sda2: Cannot allocate memory
any idea?

could you post output of
cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal && swapon -s

1028172 kB
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda2 partition 1967952 981716 -1

hmnn then close some running programs perhaps?

I am back to 621824 only used memroy.. but still cannot swap off

1028172 methinks

but Used shows 621824 now
Is there a way to see how much mem is used by programs

in console, use “top”
if using kde, ksysguard is rather nice
in top, look for VIRT RES SHR columns
for virtual memory, resource memory and shared memory usage respectively

what’s the benefit of using lvm2?

sys-process/htop is a nicer version of top

hmnn guess i should try it :P

top does not show process ordered by memrory
it does by cpu %

htop does

ok, emerging

http://packages.gentoo.org has been down for a while, when will it be available again?

it seems this displays by thread, not process

?

I have 8 lines for firefox-bin for example

atop?

Hey, I have some trouble booting gentoo since I added a SATA drive to my pc

are you using the /dev/hdaX or /dev/sdaX syntax for root=?
and have you updated your fstab?
@sfxa

hey
I havent created a partion on this disk yet
I only have ide drives bise that one sata

so where is the problem? when booting up with the kernel? or trying to use the drive?

as I plugged in the drive gentoo didnt boot anymore
before that everything went well

have you got an error message?

!google hardware sata site:gentoo-wiki.com

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_SATA

no just a bliking cursor

is the cmos trying to boot from the sata ?

no. the first boot device is my ide drive

how do you start wpa_supplicant with iwl3945? i get nothing but errors, it keeps running tho’, but wpa_gui says it can’t connect, tried both eth1 (wmaster0 but it’s renamed to eth1 by udev) and wlan0_rename

wpa_supplicant working oke here on a ipw3945ABG never seen a iwl

works fine on my ipw3945 too, there’s iwlwifi in portage (masked tho’) otherwise look on intellinuxwireless.org
new driver doesn’t need binary daemons (eww yucky ), it does use firmware tho’, but honestly i don’t care much, more cards do this

CareBear\, hello again

Well hello. How did you know I was active?
Two can play the whois game I suppose.

CareBear\, i guessed
CareBear\, how are you today?

Many things to do, not enough time.
Yourself?

CareBear\, oh, what a bummer. what are you up to?

how to know if my touchpad is a synaptics toutchpad?

Entertaining a customer, and putting together a CV for a new assignment.

CareBear\, i want to continue on trying to get my computer to boot, but i don’t have that much time either _
CareBear\, what kind of assignment?

aren’t they all? :p

Systems development? :p A lot of documentation that needs to be written after the fact for a system to meet certification needs.

CareBear\, i see
CareBear\, well, good luck with that

Thanks.

how to automatical do “modprobe lp” when the system starts up?

reisio, don’t know…. are they?

I thought so, at least virtually – but I’ve never actually had to set one up, so don’t quote me on that :p
linux-laptop.net can probably tell you

place lp in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6

dmesg’
usually detected by the kernel mouse driver
you’ll also want to emerge the x11-drivers/synaptics package as well

friendly12345, ok… I’ll try
friendly12345, I’m doing it cause the scroll and the “click and drag” is not working

how do you start wpa_supplicant with iwl3945? i get nothing but errors, it keeps running tho’, but wpa_gui says it can’t connect, tried both eth1 (wmaster0 but it’s renamed to eth1 by udev) and wlan0_rename

hi, is there way to detect when the user changes virutal consoles (e.g. presses CTRL-ALT-F2), and to then respond to that change by running a script of some sort?

what is the best remote desktop server to emerge on gentoo?
and easiest

emerge the synaptics package then man synaptics —will tell you what to add to your xorg.conf

friendly12345, hum…. ok! thanks

er let’s see…

I like VNC
emerge tightnvc
tightvnc

yeah I’ve heard good things about tight

I have wpa_supplicant set to start automatically

you can certainly determine whether someone is in a console when they login

my X doesn’t redraw when I flip out to a text console and back, leaving me with a black screen

hmmz perhaps ps -Af or something will show the entire commandline

If I leave a terminal open, is imply type in ‘xrefreshENTER’ and it’s back
I want to automate

my /etc/conf.d/net is just modules=(“wpa_supplicant”) wpa_supplicant_renamedwlan=”-Dwext”

how’re you flipping back?

CTRL-ALT-f7

oh and I also use ifplugd

hrmm, I wonder why it doesn’t refresh itself

wpa_supplicant -B -ieth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext

do you logout of the console before you switch back?

not that exciting, but doesn’t work. build iwlwifi myself tho’ from the website using the mac80211 from the 2.6.22-gentoo-r?

could put xrefresh in ~/.bash_logout

no… when I start, I start into a text console, and start X using startx, I normally flip to console 1 to check error messages (from a program I’m writing)

not sure how best hosting to do that
but there probably is a nice way
maybe something with /etc/inittab

hmm check the man page for wpa_supplicant.conf – syntax may have changed
use the iwl3945 in portage,

2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -n -l /usr/local/sbin/autologin-reisio 38400 tty1

no the .conf works fine with the ipw3945 driver, it only contains essid’s, passwords etc for the networks to connect too

man agetty, maybe

no no wpa_supplicant syntax

yea will try that

cool thanks, will check it out

ah actually I guess that might just be for login/logout :/

*wpa_supplicant syntax not wpa_supplicant.conf syntax

even that works fine with ipw3945 i start it manually when i need it
i’ll try the ebuild for iwlwifi

ps shows wpa_supplicant -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -C/var/run/wpa_supplicant -W -B -irenamedwlan -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant-renamedwlan.pid
I seem to remember a reported bug on the forums that wpa_supplicant may, that’s *may* not work manually with the wireless stack
only auto

i’ll fiddle with a bit thx

I’m surprised wpa_supplicant works at all using Wext with the latest kernel

oh just one more q are you using 0.5.8 or 0.6.0 (i had 0.6.0 but then it got masked)
why? wext is what should become the api for all wireless cards
afaik atleast….

0.5.7

heh even lower k thx

no, wireless extensions is being deprecated

really? so what’s the new api going to be?

it’s a new wireless stack, created NOT by Intel

can somebody help-me? I just have one “Screen” section in my xorg.conf, and only only one “Display” subsection on it… and on this Display SubSection, there is only 1280×800… but it still being loaded using 1024×768!

? mac80211 is the stack, wext is the driver api afaik… oh well we’ll see way to many api’s now

er wext is a stack, not driver I think

hey everyone… if I forgot to emerge –oneshot some packages is it okay to manually remove them from /var/lib/portage/world?

let me guess – widescreen on an Intel card?

friendly12345, wow, exactly!
friendly12345, do you know how to solve?

915resolution

JackD, ?

yup

wait…what i810 driver?

friendly12345, 950GA

sorry
what version of i810 driver

sweet… so world doesn’t affect the package db at all, it’s just a list of things that should get rebuild when doing emerge world?

anyone knows why stepmania says that all mp3s are “unknown file format”? not even the menu music works (but playing them with mplayer is okay)

AFAIK, for the most part, anyways
ls /var/db/pkg/ and see for yourself

disregard

cool thanks

friendly12345, 1.7.4

if your i810 driver is 2.0.0 you need 915resolution to set widescreen resolutions

friendly12345, I can easyness upgrade to 2.0.0
friendly12345, is there it on portage?

otherwise the newer driver include 915resolution functionality
mzbot, wiki host chjunior 915resolution

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution
a href=”http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution”http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution/a

yea, it’s ~testing for x86

hmm how about not in bios video modes? i can’t run my console at 1400×1050 nor X w/o 915resolution cuz that videomode isn’t in the vga bios. which is stupid as it’s a laptop with a 1400×1050 screen, so they might as well make that the only bios mode

friendly12345, reisio, upgrading to 2.1.0

attaboy

is there a way to see what installed apps depend on a specific packagE?

reisio, what does means attaboy?

it means good job
emerge -n gentoolkit portage-utils

reisio, hummm good….
thanks

915resolution gives different output for supported BIOS modes with/without 915resolution having been run

then run ‘q’, or man equery

excellent thanks

eix attaboy yielded no matches!

? it replaces videomodes in the bios with other ones afaik, that’s how i use it anyway, i overwrite a 1280×1024 mode with a 1400×1050 one

sorry didn’t read that properly

with what program i can open *.ace arcive?

you don’t happen to know if they’ll fix the framebuffer driver do you? I can’t get 1400×1050 at boot cuz it’s not in the bios

you’re saying the card supports a mode that hacky BIOS querying can’t determine exists?

dunno what you mean by that

i have an issue
ever time i wanna use torrent i get a hardlock

again I’ve misread what you wrote

only a hard reset can get my system back

that’s the whole point of 915resolution, to get the full range of supported resolutions

haha you’re not smoking pot are you?

and i even got a message saing this is a hardware error

unace

wich part?

yea… oh well.. i just oughtta shoot the bios vendor … supplying me with useless 640×480 bios modes but no 1400×1050

ahaha..no, just tired and watching mindless TV at the same time

status error: status=0×58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdb is dvdrw

hi all
newbie here .)

Dan it’s not gui – if there is something whith gui?

hi. has anyone ever had to move a / partition. I’m okay when it comes to moving /tmp /var /usr etc etc, but my hdd is possible crashing and i need to move the whole partition to another drive

reisio, don’t think so

i’va a .bashrc file with some “usefull” alias, but when i logon it doesn’t work, what’s wrong?

k depclean just broke my gcc

No problem. Just copy and then re-run your boot loader setup.

what wm/de do you use?

reisio G0AC4
reisio sorry
xfce5
*4

4? :p
so ideally you’d want xarchiver to interface with unace

CareBear\, cp -ax right?
CareBear\, and i can update grub, fstab.. anything else need updating?

reisio i have xarchiver but it doesn’t open

I’ve stopped trusting cp. I use rsync -avcO these days. You may like –progress or –verbose too.

yeah that’s not surprising, but we can look for a patch for it

hi. i’m trying to rewrite on my apache but its not working, can anyone give me a hand?

twisted_g, dont forget a few required /dev entries or your system wont boot when they don’t exists and before udev loads

ok so I edited my make.conf to specify a video card and input devices. i re-emerged xorg-server, and now Xorg -configure still takes me directly to a black screen
and i can’t get out of it

:/ http://xarchiver.xfce.org/dev.html looks like the principal dev is on an open source horsey
maybe we can find a 3rd party

i gotta reboot

i have plone on http://myserver:8080/mysite and i want just http://mysite

anyone know if this video card is supported with ati drivers? VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)

hidrogen, if anyone here doesn’t know.. also try #apache

thanks grknight

bb, i don’t think so.. but that should be in the r128 driver

cool cool

ace was actually pretty popular when i was like 14 (14 years ago )

thanks CareBear\ , grknight
grknight, how do i know which dev entries are not created by udev?

Hi, I want to reinstall a kernel using chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash, but all time using rm, or chmod I see chmod: cannot access `./unifdef-1.20/make-tarball.sh’: Function not implemented, any idea?

twisted_g, you need at least /dev/null, /dev/console, /dev/tty1 and /dev/zero to be safe

you mean when you type ‘rm something’ it gives you that output?

is there a standard way to emerge a package without stripping debugging symbols?

FEATURES=nostrip

rm -rf linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8_old
cannot remove `linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8_old/CREDITS’: Function not implemented

add the debug USE flag?

kojiro, FEATURES=nostrip emerge foo ?

not all time, but yes

that and if you’re on 32-bit x86, make sure you don’t have -fomit-frame-buffer in CFLAGS

Do you have any idea?

kojiro, hm well i tried, how can i quicly check whether debug symbols are actually present in my binary?

I dunno, maybe scanelf or objdump can tell you

kojiro, ah yea, objdump -t looks good

did you mount proc and dev?

proc not sorry
now, seems to work, but trying to compie unifdef I see this warning, checking whether the C compiler works… configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs., any idea how to fix it?

hi, does anyone know what packages has the smb:// protocol kioslave for konqueror? mine says that smb protocol is not supported

heh, it’s a bad day, huh

hehehe

you need to set the samba use-flag

bin/sh: scripts/basic/fixdep: No such file or directory
using make trying to compile the kernel ;P

grknight, alright thanks

thanks, do you know what packages specifically?

are you sure you mounted everything before chrooting?

i don’t know exactly…
probably kdelibs and kdebase i guess

okay, i don’t have time to compile those now, but thanks. (only one hour of batteries left) i’ll try smb4k

or mount the shares, if you’ve got smb or cifs support in your kernel and samba installed

smbfs

nadar ist aus dem Uahlahub wieda daah! bin fix ueber hamburg nach paris geradelt

mzbot, teach nadar german

Fuer deutschprachige Unterstuetzung wende dich bitte an #gentoo.de

he’s just another /amsg (ab)user

hi i was wondering what can i do to announce myself on a dhcp network… like on windows it would happen automaticly if you set tyhe hostname ? the windows box is vmware.loc i wish to have my encoder box annouce itself as encoder.loc

ach ihr knickers, ihr seid ja so verknöchert wie die toitschen peamte
und wech

teach nadar about german

Fuer deutschprachige Unterstuetzung wende dich bitte an #gentoo.de

just set /etc/hosts ?

hkBst, that would be locally i want the windows box to see the encoder box automaticly something todo with NIS or search or some setting i am not aware of
and the ip addrsses change
so it would be pointless to change hosts files on the boxes

fran, that’s netbios which can be handled a few ways.. samba does that by itself though

i did mount -t smbfs //tuki/SharedDocs Tuki/ and the dmesg|tail error: smb_fill_super: missing data argument

grknight, what is the easy way of doing on a backbone encoder box

fran, doing what? share files?

no

fran, if you mean just tcp/ip, then you need a local DNS java server hosting to dish out names to numbers. it can be a linux box or a router

ok i have a network my own pc, a vmware box, and a encoder vmware being windows 2003 server. when i set it up i set the hostname to vmware.loc .loc being my network domain. didnt change hosts files or anything and the encoder saw it on vmware.loc automaticly… how can i annouce myself on the gentoo box to be visible by vmware and my localpc as encoder.loc

Windows uses lots of different name resolution methods.

grknight, i have a dhcp box. but i dont want to go configure it everytime i add a box. it happened automaticly with windows

hey everyone… I’m curious how emerge –clean works. I thought it would unmerge all my useless kernel sources, but it doesn’t. why is this?

One way is to just set up samba.

surely fedora linux has the same functionality

fran, DNS is the best way.. samba is a backup way though slower

CareBear\, i believe samba is a bad option being bloated and useless to me

ok well i got x running

of course just run a dns server!

Yet you want the functionality.

but i notice that i installed gnome-light and I have no gnome sessions defined in /etc/X11/Sessions

CareBear\, surely there is a kernel build in function

No, there is not.

flithm, read above about what i said about a dhcp server

Certainly nothing in the kernel.

im pretty sure there should be a way

First you should investigate what it is you really want to accomplish, the technical details.

i know what i want

hi. I’d like to shape the IP traffic going to an ip address host address (as apposed to a device, such as eth0). Is that possible?

err sorry I meant dhcp server

fran, dhcp has very little to do with name resolution

and i have made it clear what i want already
grknight, wrote the wrong word

sorry I think I jumped into the middle of a conversation. I’ll stay out

It will probably be either to register with a DNS server, or to answer to NetBIOS name lookup broadcasts.

dhcp_eth0=(“nodns nontp nonis”)
one of those should be changed
and it would happen automaticly im sure of it

The former can probably be done with several different DHCP clients.
The latter requires samba.

CareBear\, samba is a network share system
i do not require or want it on my box at any point

No, not quite. It’s a lot more than that.

fran, the two methods win* mainly uses are NetBIOS (which is part of samba) and DNS

i think you want to use samba’s winbind, that’s what does windows’ netbios name resolution

smbd (which does file and printer sharing) is just one of the programs in samba.

is there something i can use to measure hdd activity?

there should be a smaller version of sambas winbind then
does anyone know

fran, the most flexible way is to just emerge bind and set it up

I use gkrellm2, but there’s plenty of options

grknight, this is a corporate firm
it would be a bad idea to randomly make dns servers

I do like gkrellm2 for that too

Others are nmbd (which is what answers NetBIOS name resolution queries) and winbindd (which is used by your system to do name resolution the Windows way)

hello there gentoo folks…I have a strange problem…grub can’t start my windows partition because of a minor error in my grub.conf
the problem is
my grub conf is gone :/

mount /boot ?

mount /boot

mount?
ill try it

I think you could benefit from reading up on samba a bit. They have really good documentation.

anyone here have a macbook running gentoo?

Look into nmbd in particular.

CareBear\, samba is the most commonly haxcked software application on linux
i dare not install it

o thanks! can someone now explain what the heck I did

um

CareBear\, i currently have 7 0days for samba

Then it’s settled.

nod

to just fetch the packages but not build them, i do ‘emerge -FuDv world’ as root right?

You must be really elite.

nopers

why did I have to mount /boot? and from where did I do it?

for a system update

just invormed

PrincessKhorde, /boot isnt normally mounted during startup

a-ha gnome-light doesn’t come with gdm

anyone here have a macbook running gentoo?

i’m a unix beginner so I’m not well familiar with how the system works

elite, 1337 muhahahaha
good day all

“and pump send the current hostname to the DHCP server by default so you don’t need to specify this anymore.”

It is not really correct to say that gentoo is hosting on unix based servers

but I already had the boot folder in /, but when you mount it…from where do you take the data? doesn’t / show all files on the computer

linux != unix

unix-like system :P

mount attaches directory trees to the main tree (/). Your fstab file says that /boot is some particular partition.

oh boot is on another partition!
thanks hkBst

There may be other technical methods to achieve what you want of course.
Other than the two I mentioned.

i hope so

But those two would be the most common.

hey all, emerging xsane complains about needint sane 1.0.0 or newer, but I have sane-backends 1.0.18 emerged?

my pleasure

hi guys. is there a few step process to setting up an install cd with my own wlan drivers?

But, again, please look into exactly what it is you want to achieve (in technical terms) and ask again.

i tried to tell you

I read “I want name resolution to work”
But not much about the details.
Which are important in order to give advice.

for your own use? DO you have trouble installing?

Well you “just” need to make your own kernel.

well, I need to put some wlan drivers on a CD so that I can use my SMCWUSB32 card
and I have to compile my own wlan drivers to do it

Which hardware is inside it?

compaq presario v2410us
but the wlan card is USB

No, it was last. What’s inside the wifi thing?

anyone have any experience with gnome-light ?

ohh I remember compaq presario are great monitors

yup

i’m having problems startingx with gnome after installing gnome light and I’m wondering if I NEED gdm or if I’m just doing something wrong

i’m still using an MV740 from 2002

i seem to be missing the gnome session in X11

i have another question, with what command do you kill jobs? in solaris at school I use ctrl-c

prism2

but it doesnt work
only the ctrl-z command works

um…
Ctrl-C _does_ work

You shouldn’t need to make your own drivers for that.

prism2_usb, but I need to add a line to the wlan-ng source code to get it detected
because it’s only supported by wlan-ng under an edit

it does? it works sporadically for me PeanutHorst… when I use man shutdown for instance..it only works when I’ve reached the end of the file and sometimes it doesnt even work there

that’s because ‘man’ is an interactive command
some apps will intercept C-c

oh ok

like vi, emacs, nroff(man), bc, irssi, etc.
for man, use ‘q’

in solaris it didnt seem to be like, atleast not when I used putty from home

man is not running nroff “to” the user – that’s less.

each time i used ctrl-c in a “man job ” it worked

Or whatever configured pager.

for vi, :wq, for bc, ‘quit’, for emacs C-x C-x

What is the preferred email client among linux users?

mutt, pine I think

Up to you. I like mutt. Many like Thunderbird or Evolution

thunderbird?

matter of preference. IMO ‘Pine’ is pretty solid on the CLI
for GUI, Evolution

pine has a real problem with large mailboxes though.

Ok, thanks. I’ll check them.

(10k+ messages)

For geek users, cat

I do use less to read mail sometimes.

cat aint geeky

so, you are a geek

this is true

cat displaying text on screen is a side effect of its implementation

lol

not its actual purpose
you should know that as a “geek”
:p

well, let’s see if the wlan card works
brb

lol PeanutHorst

i really can’t talk, emerge is being a bitch to me, but i know linux userland theory relatively well

do i need fix_libtool_files.sh if i upgrade from gcc 3.4.6-r1 to 3.4.6-r2?

I’m all ears (aka .. I’m listening to you) whatever you write

i seem to have a problem
that has reared its ugly head

:o

AFTER an experiment with enlightenment DR17

smg, nope

which i cleaned up after

okay

(because i was using overlays and stuff)

experiments are always bad

burkhardth@horst-tla ~ $ sudo emerge -pFuDv world 2&1 | tee emerge.log
output is at http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html

dude what is happening with qt-4.3 and gentoo?
(x86 architecture)

and gcc-4.2 ?

well said

come on please don’t do that :P I compiled 3 times qt-4.3

I guess you made an error with creating the overlay

“creating” ?

first qt-4.3 then -r1 and now -r2!

i used Gentoo’s

PeanutHorst, have you used layman w/ -k option

didn’t know how

the directory is /usr/portage/xeffects/ not xeffects/trunk

bug 188209

https://bugs.gentoo.org/188209 nor, P2, AMD64, nils@ohlmeier.de-bug-wranglers@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, DUPLICATE, qt-4.3.1 fails to compile hosting on amd64 with gcc 4.2

ok
layman -k didn’t do anything
was I meant to give it a further parameteR?

yes but why does this affect x86?

you are using layman right ?

i honestly don’t know
well, yes i am

I dunno, do you get a different error?

how did you create your portdir anyway ?

but it’s complex… i think i nuked some of my overlays when i emerge –synched

overlay*

I’ve got a server that has had a super high load average for the past day. i’ve restarted everything running on it and it still is sitting at ~20. What kind of things should i look for when i do a ‘ps aux’ to figure out why?

using the instructions on the wiki for installing Compiz Fusion

It usually sits around 1-3

No I don’t mean I get an error. I said that I compiled qt-4.3 3 times in 3 days! Because of -r1 and -r2 I was curious about it that’s all

http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Overlay

top ?

can someone tell me how a normal user becomes able to mount? isnt that possible?

PeanutHorst, y (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_xeffects – check green line)

/etc/fstab

top and use “” and “” key to sort column

I_R_Baboon: I used svn co

isnt that only for booting?

for the xeffects stuff

ah, I see well, check the changelog

ahh

but that isn’t the problem

so you are not using layman
I told you already what the problem is

the problem is i have a bit of enlightenment dr17 muck stuck in my portage somehow

yeah.. i’ve run top.. but most of the stuff i see there has been restarted

add users group at fstab for the partitions you want to mount and add your user to group users

you add “user” or users to the mount options in fstab

evas and ecore are part of enlightenment, and they are what are stopping things accoridng to the output of emerge
and i know for e17 i _DID_ use layman
but the portdir_verlay is no longer in my make.conf for that

look at this

+qt-4.3.0-r2.ebuild:

Patch wasn’t applied in previous ebuild revision due to a typo.
how funny

PeanutHorst, ok my bad (in that case -k does not apply). Santanabaer is right (overlay is xeffects)

2 hours of compiling due to a typo

heh

hey everyone… how reliable is emerge –depclean? It says I have 400+ packages to remove. Should I believe it?

try first emerge -DuN world
and then emerge –depclean

did the DuN world, and now doing depclean

please do: less /etc/make.conf | grep PORTDIR_OVERLAY

then a revdep-rebuild ;-)

my initramfs is hosed… can I boot a livecd, mount my root fs, and run update-initramfs?

haha right

flithm, serious

Santanabaer:
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=”/usr/portage /usr/local/portage /usr/portage/xeffects”

sorry I know you were serious I was laughing because I couldn’t imagine not doing a revdep-rebuild after that

how many packages do you have?

flithm, just making sure

hmm ok that is correct …

1458

christ

*nod*

yeah I’ve been running a single gentoo install for like 6 years without ever cleaning it up

then do it
I have 500 :P

flithm, you could always ‘less’ through them and make sure its nothing wierd

true eh
it weird me out a bit because hotplug is in there for example… don’t I need that?!

flithm, I don’t have hotplug, but not sure

flithm, hotplug/coldplug are dead and replaced by latest udev

1 sec I’m checking my configs

ahhh cool… this depclean actually is smarter than me nice

I know coldplug was, not about hotplug

I don’t have hotplug

PeanutHorst, PORTDIR_OVERLAY=”/usr/portage /usr/local/portage /usr/local/portage/xeffects/trunk” maybe ?

…..
that isn’t the flippin’ problem!

well here goes nothin

I know what the problem is

http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html ahh noo ?

i have explained it
I do not know the solution however

so what is the problem?

flithm, good luck and let us know

the problem – if you looked at the output of emerge instead of the portdir cruft – is that bits of enlightenment dr17 are in my dependency tree somehow!

thanks!

when they shouldn’t be, i might add

Hi, I am trying to use a backup using tar cvfzp usr_bin /usr/bin, but when I use this thar on other sistem, the symlinks are not correct, it uses a empty files with no permisions instead, any idea?

we looked at the output of emerge

yeah…
did you notice this bit?
Calculating world dependencies -
there are no ebuilds to satisfy “=x11-libs/evas-0.9.9″.
(dependency required by “x11-libs/ecore-0.9.9.037″ [installed])
!!! Problem resolving dependencies for x11-wm/e
!!! Depgraph creation failed.

of course I have the entire log under my eyes

pastebin

http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html

any more than those five lines and i would have

thats what he showed before

My new hard drive keeps sounding like it’s constantly seeking all over. Any ideas how to get rid of that?

ignore line 1 of that paste for a while then
because i know it is not the problem,

You solve that by using bugs.gentoo.org

/usr/portage $ echo */evas
*/evas

hey all, emerging xsane complains about needint sane 1.0.0 or newer, but I have sane-backends 1.0.18 emerged..?

… i have about 4 hours to have this … fixed… all I need is someone who understands the enlightenment dr17 overlay and portage
CareBear\: um… echo just repeats what’s on screen… :|

Well we know portage well enough, but I don’t know what issues there may be in the overlay.

” serious vulnerabilities in OpenBSD’s Systrace, Sudo, Sysjail, the TIS GSWTK framework, and CerbNG…bypasses access control, virtualization, and intrusion detection in under 20 lines of C code consisting solely of memcpy() and fork()”.

actually my guess was that evas belongs to the xeffects overlay

well it doesn’t

hi all, could root have a .bashrc?

oops wrong channel

it belongs to dr17

bash does wildcard expansion first.

then you should add the dr17 overlay

ADD it?
but i want to get rid of this cruft! :|
ok, i’ll go find where i dumped it

do you want enlightenment or not ?

could root have a .bashrc?

Yes

sure

yes i do

the standar gentoo-wiki doesn’t help you?

i don’t understand why for me don’t work

I remember I got it to work but without overlay

for normal user it work, but as root not

How do you force bash to refresh it’s file location cache?

Portage may need to build a dependency graph even if you are going to remove stuff. That means you’ll need access to the overlay.

i’m not using Beryl

.. /etc/profile usually does it for me.

i’m using Compiz Fusion – which is still only in subversion
CareBear\: ok…

yes

ok, i am doing the overlay thing now

good

is there a way I can alert myself when a service stops?
mysql seems to be stopping all by itself

CareBear\: Perfect, thanks, I wonder why source clears it though

Yeah. I haven’t investigated.

hi

hi Reaver_

does beryl remove direct rendering?

No

for some reason I’m not getting direct rendering with my user account, but I am with root.
the only difference I can see is the user has xgl and beryl

hypertransport sync flood error
Press F1 to resume
anyone know what that could be?

I ve never seen that before

reboot

your motherboard acting up

i got it 3 times

TheLorax, xorg.conf (last lines dri 0666 blablabla commented ?)

my comp is like 2 months old

Reaver_, sounds like a bios error

google it
is your computer over heating?
can you go into bios and check?

i did try to google it without any results

have you overclocked your CPU at all?
changed the clock frequency or core voltage?

has anyone gotten rdesktop to connect to Vista?

i did do a bios update through windows though

thankyou, it is working now
should i use emerge -FuDv world , or emerge -fuDv world ?

Reaver_, sounds to me that introduced the error

“emerge -uDav world” no f or F

no..
I want only to fetch the packages
so i can make use of my off-peak time
to avoid wasting bandwidth
and parallel fetch is limited in what it can do
but which F ? the f or the F ?

f, F will grab stuff for other arches and all use flags…
unless you want that

yeah, my smcwusb32 wasn’t detected by gentoo

f.

and unfortunately, the gentoo install cd didn’t load the bcm43xx firmware for my internal wlan device

did you install already? any other cd which supports it?

what cds support it?

ty hkBst

hey all… i’m having an issue with the Nvidia drivers on a GeForce 8400M. the drivers work ok, and i get 3d etc, but upon logout of X i get a full system freeze
any suggestions or pointers on how to resolve this bug?

What’s a system supposed to do when running out of physical memory and no swap is present?
I just had this and the hard drive light started flashing indicating high I/O, and the computer froze

The OOM handler in the kernel will kill off some process to free up memory.

where can I get the latest development sources for gentoo?
I want to see if it works in that

I could move my mouse only every 5 seconds or so

That is called thrashing.

why did you disable swap?

CareBear\: is that normal?

did you install already???

(this behavior)

no
nope, didn’t install yet

I disabled swapping because I wanted to diagnose a performance issue

no

Yeah, it happens. I get that sometimes too, and I actually prefer it over OOM-kill most of the time.

I need wlan to get the install files

CareBear\: how can you prefer that? I had to reboot…

well, don’t absolutely need
but I don’t feel like it’s worth all that effort

try one of the cd’s here: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?pkg=linux&pkgver=2.6.22.1#pkgsearch

Then I can set up swap or manually choose which program to kill – rather than the OOM handler killing off something I have not saved in a long time.

the system was so unusable that after 2 minutes of waiting I just rebooted. I would have prefered to have a process killed

you can use any cd which recognizes your hardware and install Gentoo by following our handbook.

CareBear\: doing anything with the computer was absolutely not possible.

Hi, would it be better to use vanilla 2.6.23 or gentoo-sources 2.6.22 w/ the CFS patches?

No typing in a terminal, no nothing

sorry, that link is no good

* ERROR: cannot start netmount as net.eth0~ could not start

I have tried gentoo rawhide’s setup cd
at least, I think I have

I’ve gotten that too. And if the kernel is left thrashing it does get worse, so I can usually avoid it by reacting quickly when I see the symptoms.

Hmm, in my case, no quick reaction was possible

Killing the wrong process is worse than a reboot, for me, though.
Anyway.

As soon as it went over the edge it basically started spinning infinitely it seemed.
What I was surprised about is that the hard drive started trashing

I’m not sure when the OOM-handler will be invoked and when not.

why would the OS start using the hard drive if no swap is there??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrash_(computer_science)

trick question?

is there a way to reload my permissions (in this case, the groups that I’m in) without logoff-login ?

No

newgrp bash
newgrp groupname
sorry
will start a new shell as groupname

anybody have experience with nvidia drivers?

CareBear\: Hmm, I see how it can happen

Might as well login then

For example if the OS tries to load a file from disk but does not have the RAM to load it into, right?

There is no way to change the current bash groups

then it will reload and reload and reload the file for ever

No it will terminate the program trying to load

Well, in my case it did not.

Depending on the memory manager it may retry and retry, trying to do clever things with the RAM in use.

Unless the program has special handling for when the OS tells it there is no RAM availble

DoYouKnow, smcwusb32 uses linux-wlan-ng i think (not sure)

hum…..

Anyway, going out of RAM on my system is basically a disaster… I reactivated swap.

joshwest, what is your problem?

You must be loading something that makes a seriusly big RAM allocation
The kernel autokills random programs when it runs out of memory

It’s not random AFAIK.

yeah, it does

And I’m not sure “run out of” is so easy to define.

brb

The memory manager may try to optimize memory usage in order to free up more space, that would make the call succeed.

I’ve run out of memory plenty of times over the years
There is a difference between being out of memory for a program and out of memory for the kernel

Yes, so have I, but I haven’t seen consistent behavior.

CareBear\, bye

The kernel does not accept being out of memory and fixes it.

Well we’re talking the system as a whole here.
That’s a good point though.
kmalloc() will trigger OOM-kill
Whereas malloc() may not.
Until the kernel needs more RAM.
To do something.

There’s a problem

I always run out of kernel memory, I’ve yet to see a pure malloc error, or maybe it’s happenign a few seconds/hours (if we are dead in swap) before it crashes

The kernel never kills an application because brk() fails.
But libc may. And the app may ignore libc and retry brk().

I can’t emerge java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1 with USE=”java”.

Anyway, you can be proactive with all this by using ulimit

why not?

Heh, when you first start using ulimit you learn a thing or two.

because its masked

Yes I was using a program that made a 300 MB allocation when it started trashing

here’s my log file. but I forgot where to put online

thrashing – note the h

ok

http://www.rafb.net/paste/

has anyone ever used the Dell open manager server update utillity on a gentoo system

It’s a Java program with the memory option… that may be special, I don’t know

sounds scary

Aah, automatic trash memory managers.

maybe.

i just want to update the firmware of the raid controller

http://rafb.net/p/qWwRWo65.html

Did some time with lua, had to teach all of the WoW community that just because it’s automatic doesn’t mean it has brans and you still need to program to take advantage of a trash language

I’m frome Taiwan.

what’s the WoW community?

Took me half a year to enlighten the community before there was widespread memory programing technique changes
World of Warcraft uses LUA as scripting language. LUA is open source. www.lua.org

the doc use flag pulls in those silly packages that are fetch-restricted. Either you disable doc use flag or you fetch the sources for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1 and dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.5.0-r1 manually

ha, Lua for World of Warcraft. funn
y

I recommend the first option

But that has little to do with your issue a 300 MB allocation doesn’t involve the trash recovery system

you may only need to disable it for dev-java/sun-jdk

And besides Java has a better trash system afaik

I don’t know. All i can tell you is that I have 1GB physical RAM, had swap disabled
RAM usage was already at 850MB or so

hi all

i dont get mergedfb to work. any ideas where to start?

then I loaded a Java program with XXXmx=300m
and… bam!
whole system froze
After waiting 2 mins I rebooted.

Hrm, weird

I think I can reproduce that consistently.

I’ve several questions about the package management system.

ElvanorAtWork, you should have waited longer, it takes about 5min for my OOM killer to come up.

I already had this twice.

I can’t 5 GB RAM is hard to use up.

maybe but seeing the hard drive up was freaking

gogogo

so I prefered to reboot

how large is the portage tree?

Around 200 MB I think

any suggestions on a DNS server….is bind still the way to go or is there something thats equivalent but easier?

Thats the portage tree itself without packages and distfiles

with distfiles that must be easily over 50 GB

eclean distfiles is your friend

http://rafb.net/p/CXNC9863.html

so if I run “emerge –sync” it will download the 200MB tree?

I usually just do a cd /usr/portage/distfiles && rm *
no

No, it will rsync it
That means downloading changes

I like to keep my distfiles =P It gives me a good feeling knowing I have the source for all my apps =P

eclean distfiles isn’t rm distfiles

even for the first time? after installing gentoo from cd?

sinsarrummzen thats what the internet is for :-) they can hold the source somewhere else for me

does anybody here have any experience with anjuta 2.2?

the first time you install a portage snapshot, so you already have something

Miravlix, then what does it do?

man eclean

Miravlix, I did…

remove obsolete portage sources

Miravlix, then I should clarify, I like to have the sources for all software I use and software I have used in the past =P

is packages.gentoo.org down for some reason?

yes, being broken

teach alunduil pgo

packages.gentoo.org is down until further notice.

alunduil, yea =(

ok, thanks guys

what happened with –depclean?

why USE=”java” need gcc 3.3.6. I’ve installed GCC4.20. why I have to install 3.3.6?

Is there a way to extract the action script from a swf flash file? I don’t have the original fla file anymore and would like to look at my old code… And also I dont have any flash running..

teach sinsun gcc-3

Some packages, usually pre-compiled binary packages such as mozilla-firefox-bin, are written in C++ and are only compatible with the C++ runtime library provided by gcc-3.x. If this is the case then you can avoid having to install gcc-3.x entirely by installing libstdc++-v3 beforehand: emerge -1 sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

teach arrummzen why pgo down?

No such faq

yup, they’re often called “decompilers”

teach sinsun gcc-3

Some packages, usually pre-compiled binary packages such as mozilla-firefox-bin, are written in C++ and are only compatible with the C++ runtime library provided by gcc-3.x. If this is the case then you can avoid having to install gcc-3.x entirely by installing libstdc++-v3 beforehand: emerge -1 sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

/etc/portage/package.use”. and then emerge as usual

do I remember right ? did I get from you that script with listing of the non system files ?

yes, that’s correct.

apparently the devs fouled up and didn’t include libstdc++-v3 in recent installation media

fouled up?

thx, guys, youre really kindness

couldn’t that be fixed with the first sync?

No need for c++-v3 for most people

thanks

alright, so I’m not allowed to sync more than once per day to a single rsync server, but is it acceptable for me to do emerge –sync on 128 gentoo nodes if I set them to use different mirrors?

bye all

(once per week).

yeah fouled up, the gcc upgrade guide recommends it, IIRC
’s’what I call a foul up

the problem is not that it isn’t included (it would be spurious as a base system package), rather that it’s not chosen as the default package to fulfil the =virtual/libstdc++-v3.3 virtual.

I would suggest you keep a single local copy.

in fact if anyone ever comes to #gentoo asking about it, I call it a foul up :p

Then you can sync to that.

I really ought to file a bug about it. I’ve been meaning to for ages.

sure

Trying to boot gennt I see this error on bootsptrap, /dev/sda1 is not a valid root device, any idea how to fix it?

mzbot, teach arrummzen sync to local copy.

No such faq

yeah, I know what you mean :p

ahh cool I am still very thankfull for the script works great I went through the list many times … I imagined the script could have been extended with a equery depends for every package … something like an if case : (show the package if equery depends .. doesnt show any packages in the list ) do you think its possible to do ?

heh

mzbot, teach arrummzen why won’t you work for me?

No such faq

teach is a keyword lookup
single word…

mzbot, teach arrummzen sync

/msg mzbot help

SYNC, defined in /etc/make.conf, contains the location of the rsync mirror Portage should use to update the Portage tree. It defaults to rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage but you can change this using the mirrorselect application. A good choice is rsync://rsync.${countrycode}.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage.

there is one running in linux?

it’s like in the one hand, you can file a bug, or in the other hand, you can just sit on your butt 24/7 and tell someone how to fix it every now and then for eternity :p

if you want to play with the bot, please do it in a private window

local means internal in your LAN.

Heh, the help is just about as usefull as trying to open Windows

I can’t think of any flash decompilers for linux… not that I’ve really looked

hey, at least I am telling people how to fix it. I wrote that entry.
reisio:

there are disassemblers, but I don’t think they output AS
a flash decompiler for win32 would probably work inside Wine

If you’re root on 128 machines that should be a breeze to set up.

yeah I found some dumpers and analyzers.

heheh

the truth is, I don’t know why it isn’t chosen as the default package to fulfil the virtual on gcc-4 using profiles yet. I’d like to know why and what the solution is before filing a bug.

I think you want to set up a local rsync mirror: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gentoo+rsync+mirror&btnG=Search

ok, I try to get the win32 thing in this case…

also, I don’t use gcc-4 so it’s a bit tricky for me to test fixes

yeah, it’s always nice to avoid the first comment being ‘bug closed invalid, you suck, newbie’

haha

I keep forgetting, what’ s the app name for generating random password again?

still, regardless of the technicals – there _is_ a bug somewhere

hmm. I’ll put stow that one away and consider it later. I have to get back to work now.

kio, pwgen is one

cat
place cat on keyboard

apg

thx cahoot

I see, that should work.

alright hey its great that you help me so much

We have a virtual that depends on gcc-3 or libstdc++v3

didn’t know apg, but thx mtnbkr

I tried to write the extension myself = I failed :P

ok

We seem to lack the feature for selecting the prefaired dependency in ebuilds
Doesn’t seem buggy to me, just a Columbus Egg

yeah, check itout. lots of options to custmize the type and length of passwords it generates

it’s a bug, because if they’d installed Gentoo a year ago and updated following guides, they would have libstdc++-v3 and gcc 4 right now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus

and wouldn’t show up here puzzled
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Juan_Ponce_de_Leon

looks like your article got deleted

btw … guys … do you have an idea how I can delete the qt designer and the assistent off my system … I dont know which package is responsable for it
I never ever installed them … they came automaticly

how do you know they are there?

because they appeared in my xfce startmenu

I’ve fixed everything on gentoo eccept net.etho it still won’t let me start apache2 or netmoun.
netmount

I know I use qt because its a dependency of many other applications … but I never wanted the qt designer and the assistant

and if you click the menu item?

There has got to be a fix for this?

Fix for what, your not providing any error

if I click the menu item it opens of course

then you probably just need to unmerge it

* ERROR: cannot start apache2 as net.eth0~ could not start

run qfile (portage-utils) on the executable to determine its package

ahh
thats interesting

*** glibc detected *** /bin/sh: malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0×00000000007b3a80 *** – any ideas?

* ERROR: cannot start apache2 as net.eth0~ could not start

Stop trying to start net.eth0~
You polute the rc system

wwhat do I do then?

Never seen anyone do this before, so not entirely sure how to unpolute the rc system. perhaps /etc/init.d/net.eth0~ zap

Bad RAM
Or buggy code, produced by crazy CFLAGS
But my money is on bad RAM.

memtest86+ to confirm a case of bad RAM?

argh

well I’ll try anything now.

anyone know of a handy usb image to boot memtest86?
does the gentoo live cd’s have memtest on them?

check the memtest hp I think they have boot imqages

prompt

Yes.

thx

memtest86 even

Ill be back in hours

something like that yeah
i’d suggest something newer, though.

oh I found a 2006.something
seeyas!

/etc/init.d/net.eth0~: No such file or directory

make it then

anyone here using eclipse with gentoo ? I got a question about jdk/jre versions needed (it loads more then I guess I need)

How do I show package dependencies ?

or equery g package

#gentoo-java

hkBst, thanks

ironfoot495, cd /etc/init.d/ && rm -rf net.eth0* && ln -s net.lo net.eth0

This is what the win32 flash decompiler says in wine: “This program has been damaged, possibly by a bad sector of the hard drive or a virus. Please reinstall it.”

He needs net.eth0~ not net.eth0

hmmm ok I assume the qt assistant and designer are part of the use flag qt3support

s/ironfoot395/I_R_Baboon/

I am re-emerging qt now
hope that they are gone then

which one?
(decompiler)
equery from gentoolkit, or q from portage-utils

which one is depreciated ?

mmm, portage-utils is hipper, but it’s worth having them both

if I had to learn one, which should it be ?

you don’t have to learn just one, though :p

3 qfile

thats why i was just saying hypothetically.

You make it sounds like your choosing between being Einstain or Doctor Do Little

Miravlix, o_O

they do different things and things differently
just get them both and enjoy :p

But also
3 revdep-rebuild
so do get both

vim or emacs, gnome or kde,

Do both

Sara Jessica Parker or Hillary Scott

www.flash-decompiler.com. It doesn’t find fd.dll

maybe you need fd.dll, then
who’s Hillary Scott?

it was just a demo anyway (w/o actonscript export). need to ask my donkey..

look it up.

that’s a strange thing to be
if you give me a copy of the SWF, I can decompile it later and get it to you

uhmm, genkernel all it modifies my /boot/grub/menu.lst ?

There’s a topic in here somewhere… we’ll find it eventually.

ah, don’t know her, but she’s less than a month younger than me, that’s far out :p

if you have the time: http://www.nyk.ch/avi/nyk.swf …but the donkey had many decompilers to try in wine..

the donkey :p
well I have a winders system I can reach via RDP
and another upstairs
will leave you a memo with a URI, later

thanks!

is there any idea for the future to split the huge OO into nice little parts like it was done with kde?

Hi! How do I find out the ebuilds that depend on ebuild X? A reverse variant of qdepends, so to say…

I guess this is not gentoo s decision

can somebody help-me? http://rafb.net/p/dzjH2H44.html

hello

you should go to an OO channel

could it not be arranged through an ebuild?

nah … since the ebuild downloads a source
and the source is given by the openoffice website
so it is up to them to split it

yes, thats the next place im going to visit

If you want to pursue that, file a feature enhancement request on bugs.gentoo.org.

does it make sense to ask there ?

But more than likely, it’s something you will have to take charge of yourself.
Much more so there, than here. This channel is for supporting Gentoo, not changing it.

of course

fyi, the official openoffice channel is #openoffice.org

probably right, i was just wondering or asking myself whether there is already something like this going on
shutting up

Searching bugs.gentoo.org would also be a good idea.

can somebody help-me? http://rafb.net/p/dzjH2H44.html

but thx however

but since he is talking about OO split … I guess bugs.gentoo.org is the wrong place too … infact lets say from the example of the change from xorg-x11 to modular xorg … it wasnt a change done by gentoo …

try looking at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4169275.html?sid=8dafcc6300e86db05024cc4256bfbc15

Your plea for help does not include a statement of the problem and what you’ve done to try and fix it.

someone can help-me, df show to me erroneous space on disk: http://rafb.net/p/Qr9drK23.html

How is it erroneous?

see http://rafb.net/p/Qr9drK23.html

If you’re dealing with a large number of files, file system overhead can account for a lot of that.
Particularly, a large number of small files… such as what you’d find on /var

also if files have been unlinked but are held open by a process

is /var, and I remove about 2G of files from he
but he not shows these 2G free

chronos That happens if some program still has the 2GB files open
philw++

lol

hum

The answer is qdepends -Q

I’m using a multilib profile on an AMD64 system, I’d like to know if there is a way to *force* a package to compile as a 32bit binary instead of 64bit.

Compile it from a 32-bit chroot and binpkg it?

I notice that some applications compile by default as 32bit. like Wine. Which makes sense, since not all apps work on 64bit yet. but if I need an app to be 32bit, and there is a 64bit build available, it will automatically use the 64bit build.

hello

hey

Is that really the only way?

chjunior, i gess your x fails to start (have you changed monitor? have you tried Xorg -configure or xorgconfig?)

I don’t know if it’s the only way. Just one option.

I tried using keywords to do it.. like -* x86 .. but that didn’t work, I imagine it’s because the keywords are just there to tell you if a package supports a particular arch, once the package is downloaded, the arch it compiles to is determined by the configure script.

I_R_Baboon, yes, it’s failing…. and no… I don’t changed my monitor…. I still using the notebook’s LCD

not the keywords.

in fact hame some files opened
files that I deleted

I suppose the only way would be to pass options to the configure script, but can I tell emerge to pass options to it?

I_R_Baboon, some idea?

chjunior, where are you from? Brazil? Anyway try reconfiguring X

I_R_Baboon, yes, brasil….
I’m trying….. =/

you changed xorg.conf some time later?

And I’m not even sure the method I suggested would work, to be honest.

hm..

chronos, I_R_Baboon X working again!

hum, right

there has to be a way.. i mean the whole point of multilib is to be able to use apps that are either 64bit or 32bit..
and i have both 32bit and 64bit compilers.

when i try to mount

chjunior, “help-me” – “ajuda-me” lol

see, lsof shows my opened files http://rafb.net/p/j1GGKr58.html

I_R_Baboon, wow, really

maybe i have to edit the ebuild or something.

I_R_Baboon, but I think that help-me still right

/etc/init.d/syslog-ng restart
Or maybe even just killall -1 syslog-ng

chjunior, “help me” anyway it doesn’t matter (this is not an english grammar channel)

But I’m not sure what syslog-ng does on SIGHUP

hum, this server is running on production …
restart syslog … hum

Advice in here is dispensed without warranty. If you need professional support for a professional environment you should get a contract with a company.

I_R_Baboon, yeah yeah…. you’re right

To be completely honest, noone in here really cares what happens to your production system.

when i try to mount a samba share with a normal user it says “cannot mount on /mnt/share: Operation not permitted smbmnt failed: 1″. my /etc/fstab entry is like “//ip/share/ /mnt/share smbfs notauto,user 0 0″ does anybody have a clue?

restarted
I assume risc

I_R_Baboon, but thanks to “help me” with my english too it’s always good to get improved….

;-)
I’m not admin of this server, and not have one .

greetings all

syslog-ng should close off all it’s files on SIGHUP so that would probably have worked just as well.
I hate to break it to you, but if you’re the only one with root – you _are_ the admin.

i have a usb controller i want to use for gaming. how can i tell if my system even knows how to read the controler? and whats a good NES emulator that allows u to have a controler?

y in the kernel for sata to work properly ?

CareBear\: I’m not only with root
CareBear\: thx for help.

Yes

cool

Welcome.

rebuilding kernel

good bye

Now does one display a user’s CUPS print quota?
s/Now/How

hello

‘lo
wiki controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xbox_360_controller_on_Linux

wiki game controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Compile_a_Kernel_Manually

wiki usb controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_XPS_Gen_2

:p

my icewm doesn’t start as lacks of fonts like -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*, I installed adobe-fonts-75dpi. so where can I get the fonts needed to start IceWM?

Comments off

id want to mount -dev-hdb1 to -home-naiv-xxx at boot with owner naivnaiv so i choose these options owneruid=1000gid=1000auto

sudo mount -a

192.168.0.123:/media/SHARE211 failed, reason given by server: Permission denied

anyone can help me getting a Logitech Wingman to work? I have read stuff about needing to complie the kernel with some driver, but all pages seems rather old. Primary I want to get it working with snes9x

on the other the other way around
sudo mount -a

i reverse engineered the dac-2, i need to get around to releasing the library
(and then try to add support to mixxx or something for it)

aye cool

XtypeWriter74 that’s great

it just got pushed down in the stack of things i’m working on

it is?

XtypeWriter74 at least now you just have a permission problem

cool

please address people with “nick: ” rather than “nick”, the latter is customary for quoting

I worked to install some software but I couldn’t beacause of some depencies. Now I see a error while installing any softwar with “apt-get” ask me “do you accept solution [Y/N/i/?]” how can i clean this?

ok, so it works as long as ssl/tls is disabled, but i don’t like that as a long term solution….i wonder if there’s any way around this…

havent ever used the option

did you see the stuff about purging and reinstalling udev?

ping

and it should auto-complete something like Knight_Lord: for you.

what are the backports repos entry for sarge

“azeem:” ?

http://dbmix.sourceforge.net/

I take it you’re either running sid or you’ve been trying out som non-debian dependencies…

XtypeWriter74 now its just a question of fixing your exports file. I have to go now but someone else should be able to help you. Good luck

Knight_Lord, thank alot!!!
^’s

themill:restart needed?

look at gdam, which is, unfortunately, looking abandoned

this should work: deb http://www.backports.org/debian sarge-backports main contrib non-free

stew, thanks for the help too

tell us what you’ve been up to… a restart will not help you with package dependencies.

it works wonderfully

shame that looks good

I have worked to install beryl last. And I could’t ” apt-get install beryl-manager emerald-themes “

what do you have in your sources.list? please pastebin it.

what repo can i find libapache2-mod-php5 in, apparently its not in the backports for sarge

I am pretty sure it was an ext2 partition but it is not been recognized. the vfat partition mounts without the need of -t option. However, mounting the ext2 partition I get a message mount: you must specify the filesystem type

http://pastebin.com/m3b2e747e

it is in backports for sarge
i’m looking at the packages file right now, and I see it there

yup. sadly that didn’t fix it…

Hi, anyone experienced with routing?

I suggest you comment out all the lines that are not official debian mirrors and that you uncomment the lines for security.debian.org as they are quite important.
!tell leafwiz about anyone

lots of people, if you have a real question, just ask it

then run aptitude update. And you are advised to use aptitude not apt-get now too.

how many CDs should I download to get a base up and running from here? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/

!tell nareshov about netinstall

for base you only need 1

Okay, I want to route packets from network B to network A’s gateway. So that I can have WAN access from network B
I have this routing-table http://pastebin.org/230 , but there is something wrong with it..

i’d want to mount /dev/hdb1 to /home/naiv/xxx at boot, with owner naiv:naiv. so i choose these options “owner,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto” but i have an error ‘EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option “uid=1000″ or missing value’. all the tutos i read doesn’t say how to give the RW to a USER. any tuto or
clue ?

does the netinst support authenticating proxy?

Thanks a lot

I’ve never used one, but I seem to remember it asking me if I needed to give a username and passwd for a proxy… check the installer docs

ah

it’s the same installer, just a different way of getting the packages (network vs cd vs dvd)

thanks a lot, themill

you should not have more than one default gateway

!happy customer

(Another happy customer leaves the building. Should be a law against them…)

you should only have one interface with a “gateway” entry in /etc/network/interfaces

hi all

aha.. thx

hey…. for the netinstall floppies, i put in the boot.img one first, right? just making sure before i start this

make sure you have setup ip forwarding in /etc/sysctl.conf

I have multible if with gw in interfaces
so ,that’s probably it

when I install debian on what do i have to be focused when is partitioning part… I need /, swap, and STARTUP FLAG ? (can I use partition that is allready meant for root to be also startup flag ?)

you should only have that set for your internet connection. if you have more than one internet connection you have to setup multiple routing tables

anyone ?
where should I put startup flag ??

for the net install do i put in the boot.img one first? i’d assume so but just makin sure

a small /boot is quite common and it should be made the bootable partition.

!tell frojnd about patience

Okay I see.. I only have one wan link, but two networks

i have a small problem, i have a laptop with debian etch installed, 256mb ram, and if i leave it w/o any application running, it still reads from disk every 5 seconds…how can i fix it?

you might want to investigate laptop mode

you don’t need a startup/bootable flag with grub/lilo

so I need for example: 15gb for /, 1024MB for swap, and 225MB for /boot ? and I set startup flag on the /boot ??

hello

stew ?

sup

just /, swap ?

which bootloader are you using? grub? lilo?

actually i don’t want to mess with laptop mode, since i use the laptop as a desktop, even removed the battery,.. but its annoying at night this ttr ttr every 5 secs..

get a soundproof box to store it in at night?

hello ricka

I am doing it by hand, but there was LVM in the option to set partitions… I am installing via net install…

lol

laptop mode is a set of kernel tweaks that allows you to defer the 5s commits to disk until they are important.

are you going to let the installer install a bootloader such as grub or lilo?

so what netinstall floppy do i put in first????????

?

I have also made 2 partitions so far.. (one for root / and one for swap)

you tell me

no
I am doing it by myself

which bootloader are you going to use?
are you going to dual boot with windows?

Oh NO!!
no!
just linux, stew

in that case you are going to probably be using grub, or maybee lilo, which means that the startup flag is not needed anywhere, it would be ignored anyway

Ok. So for newbies I can just create one partition that is a little bigger for root (/) and one for swap. So home, etc, tmp will automatically be in the partition next to root ?

sure

What do you think about this routing table ? http://pastebin.org/230

thanks about that, i will give a look into that, i hope it works even if i have no batt

as I already said. you should not have more than one default gateway per routing table

google for “multiple gateways”

there is a kernel patch for multiple default gateways floating about but it seems like a hack

you may end up having to use fwmark to mark packets for a specific network and gateway

he doesn’t want multiple gateways
(afaict)

iproute2 has some nice table features that let you assign the tabe by source or destination address and then choose a gateway

yes. but he’s not trying to do split-access, he’s just trying to setup a router.

then NAT is the only way

is one of those 3 connections your internet connection and the other two private LANs?
and NAT isn’t the only way, routing without nat is another way (depending on his topology, of course)

erm.. ok

it could be very likely that he just wants to route 10.0.10.0/24 over the 10.0.0.0/16 network, for instance

true
that’s not what the route table looked like
g

well check ur host mask

0.0.0.0 means any packet on the local machine can go out the interface specified, via the specified gateway
having 3 is really confusing to route

stew
sorry
electricity problems..
is 2 partitions than good ? one for root and one for swap ?

fro
its OK. and it’s good if you have small disks. But are you likely to want to try lots of different linux distros or will you just stick with debian?

sure

well I have a router 10.0.0.1, and I have the debian server. with 10.0.0.2 as eth0 ,and 10.0.10.1 as rausb0

what is the netmask on the 10.0.0.1 router? is it 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.0.0?

!framebuffer

to negate it.

its /24 , 255.255.255.0

!tell slidesinger about msg the bot

in that dpkg packages we have some startup script but in that source file we done have that then I have to create that startupscript?

if you are likely to want to do reinstalls often or try different distros then separating /home from the rest of it makes life a lot easier as you can keep your data on a separate partition from the rest of the system.

Johann
Gambleputtydevonausfernschpledenschlittcrasscrenbonfriedigger-

like he’s gonna want to try another distro

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