I have my laptop e-mail program setup to access my e-mail server via its external address that way when Im out
is it bad if my boot is now 82% full?
the default is UTF-8
I only installed the base system, would that matter? In the installer I unselected all optional components
even the bottom standard system one
hey abrotman, is there a web acces from those !stuff answers?
thanks abo
am I missing packages required to execute .bins?
abrotman:
why?
for me to be able to browse it
you can’t browse it .. you can search it
[gtime]silent: try $ file *.bins and tell me what it is
only from here?
[gtime]silent: copy the files to a directory on your system and try it
hldsupdatetool.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
running 2.6.18-4-486
if that helps
it’s not great, but it won’t crash anything. /boot should be like 50 MB minimum. some apps may fail generating an initrd (if you use one), but you can manage (removing kernels you don’t need (keep at least 2 known working ones)
simonrvn, yeah i must had an typo at install
i did my first deb install
but i entered 0.5 GB
apparently it was MB
or re-do it ;p
[gtime]silent: is /data/ a CD ?
what is /data/HL2/ ?
its a directory
abrotman, i reinstall
not you
[gtime]silent: paste your fstab somewhere
[gtime]silent: does it have execution permissions? Also try ldd *.bins to see if some library is missing. What error do u get?
hmm… I guess its my lvm that’s causing the problem. I’m running 1 250gb hdd and 2 500gb hdd on an lvm… while executing on the lvm I get that error, but on /home/ (on the linux partition) I dont
simonrvn, maybe i can extend the partition?
[gtime]silent: how can a binary run only from a certain location? What is this program?
if you have room and you can move the other partitions…
its a tool to install a game server
it only runs on my secure linux web hosting partition, not on my logical volume
what .. HL2 wasn’t a hint ?
easier to just re-do the whole thing if this is a fresh install and you haven’t done anything to it yet
is there a way to make it run on my lvm as well? I dont have enough space on my linux partition for a game server
could I maybe use unionfs to link the namespace to fool it to writing to the lvm??
how does one go about changing the volume lable for a disk
simonrvn, hey
simonrvn, http://nopaste.info/c9ccfa399c.html
my /etc/fstab maybe you can give me a hint
hi
I have a problem. I have made a .deb based on a program developed by me, but when people try to install it with dpkg or gdebi, the installation fails
dependencies are wrong
So fix the dependencies?
(but dependencies are ok in control file)
What sorts of errors are people getting?
laga depende de libsdl-ttf1.2; sin embargo:
El paquete `libsdl-ttf1.2′ no está instalado ( dependency libsdl-ttf1.2 isn’t installed)
sorry, this dpkg is in spanish
did you try apt-get -f install ?
I don’t have this package available either
yes abrotman
!info libsdl-ttf1.2 etch
!info libsdl-ttf1.2 sarge
That package doesn’t exist except in sarge
libsdl-ttf1.2: (TrueType font library for Simple DirectMedia Layer), section oldlibs, is extra. Version: 1.2.2-6 (sarge), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
i think that gdebi could install dependencies by itself
yay!
It’s long dead
your package is broken
broken?
So having your package depend on it is wrong for any install on a modern system
mm
libsdl-ttf2.0-0 appears to be current in unstable
yes
but i use sarge
you do ?
dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1
Your users apparently aren’t though if they can’t install the package
You may have to provide a version of the package yourself for them
Or build your app on sdl2
or statically build it!
ew
mmm statically build….
ew indeed
i hate conflicts of dependencies
is there any way to change Charset so the mozilla use that for default?
uhm .. no idea
i shure aint going to try stuff any more
thnx all
couriertls: read: Connection reset by peer’ in my syslog right before every notice that I’ve DISCONNECTED from the courier-imap server.. anyone seen that before?
bye
if u find a good spot on google to my retard nose send me the spot
what’s your native language ?
could eng
do your own work
no .. really
A good gnutella client except gtk-gnutella in the repositories?
i do my own but i u find someting share
he said a couple of arabic words yesterday, but that doesn’t mean anything
what’s your native language ?
apt-cache search gnutella
english
and i thought my english was very vyer bad
no it’s not
tried, but no nice results
i feel a little bit better now….
maybe u got dixlia?
gtk-gnutella is the only one i know of
im trying to quickley get some things for a friend for tomorrow, don’t want to fiddle with gift, and gtk-gnutella seems dead
hahahahaha
dyslexia
yeah simonrvn
it’s not dead
Hi. How do I start a new X Session with KDM?
oh wait .. before i say that .. i should try it eh ?
the repository binary doesn’t actually work. IIRC correctly it’s too old to connect to other clients or something.
i mean, it works fine, but big gnutella clients reject it
it tells you how to fix that if you run it from xterm
or so i thought
doesn’t happen for me, or so it seems
hrm
this is etch ? lenny? sid ?
i installed stuff and now i want to remove it, but apt-get remove foo does not uninstall _all_ how can i clean out not needed dependencies?
sorry, this is gtk-gnutella/0.96.4-14059 (2007-07-07; GTK2; Linux x86_64) on testing amd64
Mescal
Hi all
hi
Waiting for root file system… …”
i have an answare…it’s possible use pinnacle pctv hybrid pro 31oi with debian?
i don’t see any related bugs
maybe it’s just me after all
can someone answer me it?
Mouting root file system … … \Begin Running /scripts/local-top …\ide0: I/O resource 0×1f0-ox1f7 not free\ide0: ports already in use , skipping prob\ide1 I/O resource 0×170-0×177 not free.\ide1 ports already in use ,skipping probe \Done.\Begin: Waiting for root file system…
….
deborphan
And use aptitude instead of apt-get
anyone could help me
what’s the difference between them gravity? i am running debian since 52 minutes )
aptitude will track dependencies that get installed automatically and remove them when they’re no longer needed
ok
so i use aptitude search foo
aptitude will also install recommends by default (which apt-get will do when lenny is released) and it has an interactive mode
aptitude install/remove foo
install recommends by default –
what does this mean?
Waiting for root file system… … how to resolve this problem
seems your grub is borked
check menu.lst
Packages have depends, recommends, and suggests. They do different things. Recommends aren’t absolutely necessary for the package, but you want them in almost all cases.
Because you generally want them, aptitude will install them by default
i see
so suggests aren’t necessary but good
stephan:install is complete,so start first debian ,show above error
Right
dpkg-* is that also deprecated?
stephan:Begin: Mouting root file system … … \Begin Running /scripts/local-top …\ide0: I/O resource 0×1f0-ox1f7 not free\ide0: ports already in use , skipping prob\ide1 I/O resource 0×170-0×177 not free.\ide1 ports already in use ,skipping probe \Done.\Begin: Waiting for root file system…
….
stephan:start xp from grub is ok
Debian (lenny) seems to include some SELinux tools be default, but doesn’t seem to use them by default. In general to people leave SELinux disabled unless they have some special need for it?
They’re for different purposes really
gravity, i know!
Pretty much. I don’t know very many people who use selinux
gravity, i don’t have deborphan so i can uninstall the one unneeded library (flash) manually with apt-get remove foo?
Sure
no .. it’s not just you
alessandro come back, his/her card is supported by the saa7134 driver http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/CARDLIST.saa7134.
http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/en/?page=faq#gnet6
how does one go about changing the volume lable for a disk
wich one its a good softaware to start with python¡?????????
tune2fs?
john_titor, ?
huh?
/join #gtk-gnutella
ahh
its the -L switch
thanks
what is the command to open a specific link with iceweasel?
stoned in synamtic there is 2,6 sound thing could u give me name when i went there to llok back at it was gone
iceweasel yoururl
that’s not working from menu
Does it work from the terminal?
I don’t know if you can open a specific link from the menu
from terminal, yes
no idea
oh yeah, let me try that
anyone know if courier-imap has an idle timeout value? I seem to be gettng a ‘Conection reset by peer’ at a 10 minute interval.
u dont have it check it out alsa 2.4 is like few box ahead
could be your firewall
interesting idea..
any idea how to test that idea?
is this your server ?
yes
does your ssh connection get dropped also ?
I don’t have my ssh connection poking through my firewall.
oh
only ports 25, 80 and 143 are opened to the internet.
I can reconfigure my client to connect internally.. and see if I get any messages.
what firewall is it iptables?
it’s all iptables in linux…
dunno.. I use a WRT54G router.
yikes’
thats linksys
…
what’s wrong with linksys?
nothing
why the ‘yikes’ then?
i dont know how that firewall is could be custom linux firewall
What package do I need to install to run X/fluxbox please? I have x11-common and fluxbox installed, but when I try startx or xinit or startfluxbox I get a message sayong that /etc/X11/X doesn’t exist..
dunno.
some of early g linkys had port troubles
xorg
if I edit my .profile how can I relaod the login through a shell?
why you’d install x11-common and not the apache geronimo server hosting as well is beyond me
.. ~/.profile
Ah, thank you. Must have missed that one. [I don't know why x11-common is installed tbh, I think Kismet did it for some reason..]
I have an issue with my graphics, when I go to fullscreen or back in dosbox, it crashes X .. where should I look for errors?
I’m sure fluxbox needed it
simonrvn got a linux book here now
or totally takes down the machine sometimes too..
indirectly
Is there a way to install xorg without all the video drivers? I only need one of them, not several dozen packages worth.
Yes, just pick the one you need and remove the rest
The server will be ok with that
Awesome. Thanks.
I have my laptop e-mail program setup to access my e-mail server via its external address that way when I’m out and about I don’t have to change anything.. but that means when I’m at home on my own network I’m not connecting to my server through the local network… is there anyway to change my
setup to access the mail server from its local ip when I’m on my own network?
Hi. My “sources.list” points to sid and lenny repos, and I use apt-listbugs.
For several weeks, seems that many packages have bugs tagged “Pending”.
How long does a package typically stay in “Pending” before the fix is available?
There’s no really good answer for that. It’s whenever the maintainer does an upload with the bug fix.
Thanks. It seems odd tho, that in reading the email exchanges that are posted as part of the bug tracking record,
the last message in the thread does not often point to a resolution.
Yet, the Pending tag is apparently supposed to indicate
that a fix is soon to be uploaded.
!man hi
I think . . .
!dpkg man
Yeah, that’s why there’s no good answer. The tag can be misleading :-\
How disappointing . . .
still there ?
try moving your ~/.gtk-gnutella to something like .gtk-gnutella-old and starting it again
is lenny newer than 2.6 kernal
mu
which kernel do you want ?
2.6
etch has 2.6
Hi abrotman
hi Daveman
yeah i know that i wonder if lenny wil have newer
i also wounder if when lenny stable i do upgrade if gui wil go poof
I have a folder full of MP3s and FLACs and I’d like to transcode them all to PCM .wav files. What command/tool can I use to do this?
find -exec
then use lame and flac after -exec
or xargs
that works too
less escaping that way I suppose
why stream tuner wont conect wonder whats up
I can’t understand it… X was running just find… I shut down and restarted and now it won’t load
I think the nvidia drivers might be puking
there are no EE’s in the xorg log
bogas go into shell tell it do a disk check file system
there are a couple of WW’s but that shouldn’t matter and it’s just missing fonts and such… I looked at the old log and it had them also
flac -d *.flac
did you paste your log for us to look at ?
That works for all the FLACs which is quite nice.
Unfortunately lame requires both the input MP3 and the output WAV to be specified
I can… working in shell only so give me a sec
So lame –decode *.mp3 does not work
And neither does ‘lame –decode *.mp3 *.wav’
I’m guessing the shell isn’t smart enough to make the first wildcard * string apply to every corresponding .wav
any one else useing stream tuner
I think it depends on the program
using *
ooops
http://gilligan.kicks-ass.org:1023/Xorg.0.log
gilligan ?
yeah, like I said, I’m in console mode
Hello folks
anyone here used dd-wrt?
I’m installing debian in a MS VS vm
so I dumped it on my www server
dvd burner yes
but .. gilligan ?
it’s my nick in real life… what’s a brother to do
oh .. sorry
erm .. not that it’s bad!
What’s the diff between this channel and the #debian on OFTC?
I have another box at office, which is an old branded P-III server with 2 scsi hdd hooked into a raid. When I install debian on it, debian will auto configure the smp and raid functionality and disk synchronization, right?
used to have a hat like that back in 93′ and the name just stuck
oftc?
nothing
it’s real hardware raid right ?
?
just different IRC networks
Yep
it should very likely just work .. you could try a liveCD to get a better idea .. and yes .. SMP should just work
that link open?
I’m supposed to unmount when I check the filesystem huh?
so what happens when you try to start X ?
id use live cd
thats how i did it last time
find a cd u file type and give it a wirl
it flickers some garbage video (like when the card is initializing) a couple times then goes black… I hit right or left arrow and it shows the “x couldn’t start” error and asked if i want to view the log
i wonder if your card is now legacy ?
this is a pretty new laptop
did you change any thing about the drivers ?
Toshiba Tecra Me
m3*
so you did the nvidia one-liner ?
and X used to work ?
bogas when u get x can u send me log id like to look cant load u server
does X work with vesa ?
!tell snowbird about u
I installed the driver from nvidia (which had to build.. I am running compiz) and yes X was working fine… have restarted X a few times since
hello, everyone!
anything in dmesg or syslog or messages ?
I need to do some video chat what is the program to do it?
hello, Seb!
hello WORLD (sorry, couldn’t resist)
atleast is nv
lol
is there any app to help with model analysis?
I have debian 4 dvd1 mapped to the cdrom in the MS VS vm
(debian setup running) Its been scanning cdrom for the past 5 mins.
We have some DVDs of pictures in a CR2 format. I don’t know much about these formats, but I’m having a hard time finding a viewer. Any suggestions?
why not… port giving you problems?
It says Scanning /cdrom/pool/main/l…
Should I give it more time or restart the setup?
don’t know bogas just sits and says stopped
could be my router
id let it finish
il take a hour to scan
did you maybe change a bios setting ?
how are you starting X ?
any chat program for linux in which you can use webcam?
hey
lots
amsn for one gaim
umm gdm … pretty much stock debian install w/ desktop enviroment checked… obviously I’ve tweaked the xorg file for compiz but as I said it WAS working
isn’t that what gnomemeeting does? (it changed it’s name, though)
Does it take that much time in scanning the dvd?
no, no bios change
tried using vesa ?
kids in house?
tnks from a digital camera perhaps?
made wife?
!info ekiga etch
(H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-6 (etch), Packaged size: 5369 kB, Installed size: 12560 kB
OK that’s the one – I used it before – I use now KDE and I forgot about gnome-meeting
hmm, not sure how or why… tail of syslog coming up
u can rone gnome meeting in kde
http://gilligan.kicks-ass.org:1023/syslog.txt
tnks if it is indeed for canon images, there are many apps that should read that format, try searching
tying to connect
is there a GDM log ?
nothing usefull
try with vesa .. just to rule out nvidia issues
how do I change that
I’m sure it will be an nvidia problem so yeah, let’s make sure
yeah… they are from some pro camera. I think it was a Canon.
i know this is debian tnks but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251074 has a few linux apps mentioned in the thread, that read it fine
gnomemeeting is now called ekiga
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. or just edit your X conf file with a text editor
I’ll just edit the xorg… do I just need to say “driver “vesa”" ?
thanks I got it – I am trying now to see what is Symmetric NAT and how to let my router go trough
that should work
and now you know more than i do
yep, nvidia problem
yeah… I’m downloading the bibblelabs product now.
try to reinstall the driver
there’s a .deb for it.
is there any ERD database designer app out there?
cool… just re-run the driver script?
no idea .. i avoid nvidia hardware
Did M$ sue GnomeMeeting? Was that the reason for the name change?
or /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner .. if your hardware is too new .. might not work
i don’t think so
it’s not TOO new… the laptop is like 1 year old?
might work
!tell Bogus8 about nvidia one-liner
Ah.. nah, I have to have the driver from nvidia to run compiz
ah ok
alternately .. ask #nvidia
I’m at the debian installer main window, how the heck do I move forward to get the installation going?
will it give me the next button only AFTER I configure ALL the components there?
pick the next component you haven’t done
!qotd0
can i get to the internet from here?
!qotd0
heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it
is there a way to get apt-get to install from a local package file? i want apt’s handling of conflicts/replaces, but without using a repository
create a local repository
gdebi-gtk ?
a way simple enough for me to tell other people
gdebi-gtk blah.deb
I’m installing debian on a MS VS vm. I have debian 4 dvd 1 mapped as the cdrom/dvd. During ‘Load installer components’ it fails after reading some components. It says ‘If retrying does not work, you should check the integority of your CD-ROM’. How do I go by it?
&& apt-get -f install ?
!repository
from memory, debian repository is a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with apt-get. A howto is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html
debian 4 dvd 1 iso mapped as the cdrom/dvd+
why not just use the netinst ?
in the instant case, dpkg refuses to even try the install because the package conflicts with an installed package
Because it didn’t detect a lan card
blame MS ..
yep blame canada
hehe
!sing blame canada
blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they’re not even a real country, anyway
Can I skip this step
hehe
don’t let the canuckians see that
they’ll start making dumb yankee jokes
they’d be justified
hehe
i have a bad shoulder. when it gets chilled, it starts hurting like hell, like a pinched nerve or something. so i can totally grok a sore shoulder :/.
i think it’s from sailing or maybe the painting .. we’ll see if it persists
probably both
accumulated damage or something
brb, restarting x
like pastebin.ca for text posts, where can we post images to show?
I got it back up… didn’t change the xorg.conf or anything… guess the driver just got hosed
Review: http://www.harisweb.net/dsetuperror.png
that’s crappy .. but whatever
!paste
Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
thanks for the help
have a nice day!
re
comparing md5sums
the md5sums match
Oh, I’m not going anywhere… :p
oh ok
bogas get x back
hrm im having an issue with amd64 and 4gb_ ram
works fine with 2gb ram,b ut whenever i add more, i get errors when doing stuff, like aptitute install linux-source
!memtest
from memory, memtest is http://www.memtest.org/ . Also check out http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/, or check out the packages memtest86 and memtest86+, or “aptitude install memtest86+” and read
/usr/share/doc/memtest86+, or for cpu temperature testing use the cpuburn package
tried that no errors
hello, I’m installing debian in a laptop that is connected to a desktop through a serial cable, and the desktop is in turn connect to my router/modem, but I don’t know how to set up the routing from the debian installer,
I went to a shell but route doesn’t seem to do squat
what has voice chat for msn or yahoo
snowbird, try using yahoo messenger
under what client
gaim?
snowbird, http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
snowbird, a href=”http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php”http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php/a
why the heck doesn’t debian configure a default lan card driver against any lan card when it doesn’t have the drivers for some card?
sempix i gt errors
there would have to be a default lan card driver
It doens’t configure one in the VM I’m installing it in
semprix:
volume group “debian” not found…. shit
it loads everything
but the screen goes black
What’s annoying me is, that its saying cd integrity is bad IN the vm, when its a dvd 1 iso image I have mapped against the cd and the dvd file is ok. The file where it says it failed integrity check, I can extract that whole folder with winrar just fine
what in the name of #@$@#$@#$ is it doing 
ok, I once tried Debian’s net install, using the stable, I had lots of problems with the GUI and with the fact every package was like 5 years out of date, people say their is a unstable version of debian that has newer packages, I wish to give this a try, does someone have a link?
Hello, I am Richard Stallman.
Hello RichardStallman
When doing a # apt-get -f dist-upgrade (going from sarge to etch), I get some locale errors, located here: http://pastebin.com/m3b3da946
How do I start a netinst?
hello ricka
Has anyone had trouble with locales when upgrading to etch from sarge?
hi guys
how do you scp a file to a server hosting where the the ssh port has been changed?
man scp
What is the most common desktop version of debian?
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = “en_US:en_GB:en”,
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = “en_US”
Sorry about that…got the wrong window
http://pastebin.com/m14e785e
i need help
and don’t paste again
!tell JIFFILUBE -about ask
!tell Firefishe -about paster
as AlsoRichardStall
* k-man has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
* AlsoRichardStall is now known as Sweetandy
* stickto has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection)
hi guys
fu
err
u fucking asshole cock sig
yay
charming
Who kicked me?
!tell angasule -about ask
Who is JIFILUBE?
wow curseing
you did it to yourself
a curser
disk-client
Can it be skipped?
simonrvn
danke, man to the resuce
oh that sounds oh so wrong
o_O
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8156&postcount=6 — i’m running debian and this seems to apply to me, there is no fix listed. it seems to be a problem w/ hotplug – how do i turn that off?
i have a brand new hp laptop (so i don’t htink it is a messed up hdd
What’s the difference between g++ and g++.real?
it doesn’t like you anymore?
in fact, I can’t use g++!
the latter doesn’t look like a file debian would set up
heh everything except g++ was installed synaptics probably unchecked it on a conflict
hello all, i want to use a 64 bit based debian on my intel 64 bit core duo machine…is ia64 iso appropriate for this?
so reinstall it
How do I reinstall something that isn’t installed?
ia64 is for itanium, pretty sure you want amd64
no, amd64 is. ia64 is for itanium
I AM LEAVING! BYE!
i see..so its amd64, i thought amd64 is just for amd based machine only..
thanks
Support Bush though!
well it did something… and the –reinstall flag won’t matter
Wait, no.
I had a question about Ubunu.
do you have a debian question?
Yes.
now I get this heh “tools/fileutil.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set”
One about Ubuntu.
this x86 program does not support the x86_64 instruction set!
that isn’t debian, now please leave or be quiet
figured it out
Is this the right channel for Debian based distributions?
cool
!ops ProBush is trolling
Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: ProBush is trolling
Where do I go?
edited the grub config – added noapic acpi=off nolapic (since it is an acpi problem)
Ubunutu split away from Debian so no
ubuntu did not split away
looked like he needed to be directed to #ubuntu
yes they have
/lastlog ProBush, TheWisestHuman, and RichardStallman
took you long enough then
i can smell their troll flesh
wanted rpoof
proof even
Guys, is it just me, or is debain faster than Ubuntu even though ubuntu is based on it? it seems ~iso~i much faster.
speaker219, sounds like flamebait to me. Are our responses recorded and pasted in #ubuntu?
someone here was trolling #kubuntu earlier…
wait what do you mean 
i feel stupid
i was just trying to compliment debian hides in corner
maybe its something to do with the kernel setup, and what programs get auto installed that causes a difference (if any) between the two
yeah i’ve recently tried alot of distros, SuSE, ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, debian
no worries. just had several morons troll here
and debian is by far the fastest of them all
and i have a quick question
what kernel comes with debian 4 out of the box?
2.6-18-2
this is my question
2.6.18 IIRC
when i go into terminal, and type a common command that is definately installed/there, like modprobe, it says “command not found”
sorry, it’s -4 not -2
unless i use a root terminal
I’m currently running an upgrade to etch from sarge 3.1, kernel 2.6.8-2-386. Is there anything I should be concerned about before rebooting?
/sbin/ isn’t in your path.
yeah
that’s what i figured
PATH; the sbin paths aren’t in your PATH
how to i permanately change that
What shell?
speaker219, assuming you’re using bash all you have to do is modify your .bashrc
When I get “/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `somefilename.o’ is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output” can I force it?
I’m primarily concerned about the kernel.
i think theres something like export PATH=/usr/sbin or something like that but i want it to be permanent (i’m a sort of noob to debian)
no. chroot it (64 bit chroot in 32bit userland or vice versa)
PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin and export PATH, I think.
Then again, I don’t use bash, so I could be wrong.
and how do you suppose I do that?
no that’s correct
wait, so how do i do that
speaker219, in your home directory you should have a .bash_profile file
edit that file and put what ricky just told you in there
the PATH args don’t change, just the way it’s set change
will it only take eeffect after reboot?
When you start a new shell (no reboot required)
no, it will take effect when you make a new shell
(beaten )
no, source the file you changed in that shell. any subsequent shells you open will have the new value
there is no chroot
to edit your existing shell just run that line within the shell
Oooh, both beaten by simonrvn
it still doesn’t work
uh yeh, that’s why you make one
no i don’t do that
ekiga is cool – it is almost like microsoft netmeeting – minus screensharing and whiteboard
use debootstrap to make yourself an appropriate chroot
speaker219, in the new shell first “echo $PATH” to see if /sbin and /usr/sbin is in there
I just want to compile some code…
if it is then what you did _did_ work, the problem will be you dont have appropriate permission to view the binaries
predder,
different sub-arch, it won’t work
i just modified that file somebody said
speaker219, .bash_profile?
and i ran printenv | grep PATH and it returned PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
do i have to resart the computer?
at least not a 64bit binary in a 32bit userland won’t.
Definitely not.
!reboot
you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it’s not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don’t need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2
speaker219, as ricky said. You do not have to reboot
I’m compiling a 32-bit program in 64-bit Debian
speaker219, did you open a new shell?
how do i do that
is their Debian software for programming a Basic STAMP2?
it’ll end up being 64bit if you’re using 64bit build stuff
Or . ~./bashrc
That is what I intend
speaker219, well what program are you using to do shell stuff?
ok, so do so
by the way, at the bottom of my .bash_profile file it has PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin
If that/opening a new shell doesn’t work, pastebin your .bashrc and see if any bash users might spot something.
RockerMONO, is that some kind of PIC chip?
what are you trying to build anyay? (just curious)
you’ll probably hate me for this, but i’m using gnome terminal
ZSNES
nods
speaker219, no one hates you
just close and re-open the application
yea, an $83 one… =P if i cant find Debian software for it i have the “official” software on a Winblows computer
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zsnes
i already did :O
nah, no biggie
i even tried opening xterm
and printenv | grep PATH still is the same
i’m kind of pissed that i just reinstalled again – to find it is a problem w/ hp + acpi… is it a big loss to be running 32bit on a 64 bit box?
did you save?
yeah i’m not that stupid now
mk
switching
computers
depends what you want to do
i don’t get it
speaker219, echo $PATH rather than doing the printenv
!tell PalaWan_ -about root
it should show the same result but it’s shorter
desktop + development
ricky, I think the correct place for modifying your path is bash_profile not bashrc as the bash_profile file already includes a commented out PATH modification with debian
this is what echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
some shit won’t work, like flash java and some other stuff
speaker219, okay, so paste us the file (NOT IN HERE!)
!tell speaker219 about pastebin
the bash_profile
yeah
Aha, OK- I didn’t know (tcsh user )
i was gonna use pastebin.ca
tcsh!
here’s the file:
http://pastebin.ca/655202
Is there a way via udev to force-name USB disks to /dev/sd{foo} ?
probably. tell me when you find out?
i use things like:
SYSFS{manufacturer}==”TOSHIBA”, SYSFS{serial}==”200603235382″, NAME=”%k”, SYMLINK+=”usbhd%n”
so can anyone help? my .bash_profile: http://pastebin.ca/655202
in a file in /etc/udev/rules.d/
Ok, that looks like it’ll get the raw disk and all the partitions — correct?
yes. but they’ll get symlinked, was quite a time ago that i set it up
Good enough; my current rule seems to miss the raw device, but I think I know where I made the error.
Can anyone help me with my path problem?
speaker219, I just tried what you did and it didn’t work on my system either =\
I want to setup a cms for a podcast/radio show.. doesn’t have to have everything and the kitchen sink, something with a decent security track record.. anyone have any suggestions?
sec
what can I do if a package fails to configure properly and purging the package doesnt allow the script to succeed?
ok
fix the script
is there a log that can tell me exactly what is failing?
it’s really starting to irritate me, i like debian alot better than ubuntu, but some minor annoyances like me not being in the sudoers file by default, and sbin not being in path by default like it is in ubuntu
you need to export PATH now, after line 18 in the pastebin
what do you mean simonrvn?
like this (no quotes): ‘export PATH’
The thing is, you shouldn’t need /sbin/ files in your path, as most things there are more useful as root.
those are features, not bugs. Especially the PATH thing.
line 18. PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin
so just after the PATH= thing?
simonrvn, that doesn’t work, I just tried it
gah
uh, it should
can i paste 3 lines
no
you’ll also note the if statement before it doesn’t require an export
By the way, use sudo -i command to use root’s PATH when you run commands with sudo.
/msg dpkg paster
he’s concatenating the PATH it should
i don’t know what your talking about
i just want this to work
some, some are useful to glance at things, as in a “view mode” like route, ifconfig, etc.
i can’t even do like sudo modprobe [something] it sitll says command not found. i know i could do sudo su
but i’d really rather not
it sounds like you want to go back to ubuntu.
no way
i’m already all set up
sudo -i modprobe themodule
If you missed it before, sudo -i command
oh
just export PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH
for example
kwe kwe Guerin
speaker219, that’s very weird when I run sudo it checks /sbin for me
kia ora bro
i set mine up very custom
Guerin:
Actually, it does for me too- I had never noticed that before.
now im confused
ricky, you’ve been typing -i all this time?
speaker219, so are we. What version are you running? etch?
I probably sudo su – more than I should
me i added the sbin paths to my PATH… this is way back when sudo didn’t do root’s PATH
at the bottom of my ~/.bash_profile, i have export PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH . it works if i paste that command into terminal, but only for that session. shouldn’t it work for every session since its in my bashprofile?
i think they might’ve removed it again..
ricky, fair enough, I sudo bash all the time too
I’m using etch by the way
if you sudo sh all the time, you should be using su
bash_profile is only read in a lgoin shell
login*
huh?
e.g., bash -l
whoops, I forgot that
how can i get around that? is there another file?
Uh-oh
you want to edit bashrc too
isn’t there some sort of light file manager for, sort of what nautilus for gnome is, without the dusins of deps? looking for a more “windowish” way to manage files, without kde or gnome installed.
.bashrc
sorry speaker219! that’s my fault
so if i put it in bashrc would it work
that’s read upon every invocation of an interactive shell
suck and see
Does that mean that it’d take effect after he relogged in completely?
ricky, that’s correct
yep
i’m having trouble with my sound
nicceee
thanks alot guys
so a reboot would’ve fixed it technically
you can just do . ~/.bashrc after you’re done
heh
Hehe.
It’s officially perfect
Thanks, that worked like a charm.
np
does anyone here know how to set up the alsa sound base?
and one’s sound card?
dansushi, check out the alsaconf binary
package
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Is that from Debian?
arg, i bet that mirror is the slow one….
The only thing that ever kept me away from linux (every distro) was that my laptop brightness was way too bright. I tried tons of things, (yes i know about FN keys) and none of them worked. today i was googling and found a windows program that did it (my intel driver on windows came with
software that did it) so i said i might as well try it so i installed wine and ran the software, and it actually was able to control my gamma, bright
contrast. seems weird that it is able to do that
it’s from freenode
how would one run a binary and give it utmost system resource priority?
Okay thanks.
ask in #freenode
Okay.
back for more?
[gtime]silent: man nice
Bye
predder, i’m not that experienced.. i’ve set it up before using some configuration tool, i just forgot how
er, which tool and hoe to get to it
*how
sudo apt-get install alsaconf
i don’t really get how a windows software ran in wine can modify brightness in X… but it worked
mods X’s gamma
xgamma? does it do brightness too?
yeh
speaker219, there’s actually a number of programs in various GNU/Linux distros that will get those pesky laptop keys working
hwo
how?
it’s not really brightness, that’s something else
i mean how do i do brightness with xgamma?
xgamma -help
yeah i did that
gamma isn’t brightness
so read it
all the commands are is -display -quiet -screen -gamma
and rgbgamma
which is not brighness
and if you try to treat it as brightness you might get some bizarre results
gamma isn’t brightness
yeah
that’s what i don’t understand
how a windows tool was able to control X’s brightness
well, that can’t be addressed in an irc channel
it’s definately not gamma, because i’ve tried xgamma before
read up on gamma, or ask #winehq
heh
i don’t always need answers, just happy it works
speaker219, have a bit of an apt-cache search session with laptop and your laptop brand eg the i8kutils package does things for Dell laptops etc
ignorance can indeed be strength
i don’t know how it works, because when i run the program and change the brightness, it noticeable changes, but when i run xgamma the gamma values stay 1,1,1,1 so it amazes me
I used the pbuttonsd package for getting the function keys on my mac working (but that’s PPC arch only iirc)
another thing i was curious about, i’m trying out KDE, and the Fn+VolumeUp / voldown keys no longer work
does apt have azureus web UI on a repos?
cannot set niceness: Permission denied
how can I allow users to use nice?
huh, so what was that thing to fix Fn keys? specifically fn volume keys
How do I upgrade from a 2.6.8-2-386 kernel to the highest stable kernel in etch?
apt-cache search image
find it
apt-get update && apt-get upgrade might do it though
dont remember
[gtime]silent: okay, just did it. I see some “linux…” stuff with a lot of kernel choices for 2.6.18. Which one though?
[gtime]silent: Is there a meta package I can select that will update the kernel automagically for me?
fire, like i said, try “apt-get update && apt-get upgrade” first
[gtime]silent: I’ve already done that. I can’t go any further with it that way.
k, try apt-cache search image hosting and look for the highest numbered 386 kernel
yes, that metapackage is called linux-image-2.6-$arch
ayy
[gtime]silent: I can’t find a 386 anything, but I did find this: linux-image-2.6.18-4-686
Anyone know a good wireless router that does gigabit, wireless-n, dyndns and static dhcp addresses?
Firefishe, what cpu are you using?
P4
686 will work
ls
[gtime]silent: don’t get me wrong, I *will* upgrade to a dual core sooner or later, but money…you know. *sigh* More will come
hehe yea i hear that
[gtime]silent: thanks for the help, I’ll try the 686 entry. I’m assuming it’s “apt-get that kernel image” ?
apt-get install pkg name
gotcha
standard
how can i get the nvidia-kernel-100.14.11 package?
I’m back
haw can i make it so my usb memory sticks will automount
quick question, any way to enable a boot splash screen like in Ubuntu?
speaker219, i’d imagine that’s somewhere in the options for grub, or whatever bootloader you use
[gtime]silent: I suppose I’ll want to d/l the header and source files, too, eh?
it should be auto-installed as a dependency
anyone using azureus and the web interface… I’m looking for a howto
I want to set it up and configure it then copy that configuration to my headless system and run only the web interface
anyone still here?
need help with something
We can`t help you if we don`t know your problem
asked in #winehq about the brightness thing and somebody said wine does brightness/contrast using Xvidmode. i asked how would i control this without actually using wine to open a windows program and they said you should ask that in the channel for your distro (?)
xgamma, your monitor settings, etc.
xgamma is gamma
not brightness…
Hi, can I set a top speed to apt-get??
im not using a desktop enviroment to make it easy, How can i make any usb drive automount???
i see a package called usbmount but that is not the command for it
[gtime]silent: Well, here goes. Reboot will tell if it did or failed *shudders in abject terror*
u[gtime]silent: Well, here goes. Reboot will tell if it did or failed *shudders in abject terror*/u
#join /hamradio
bbl
thanks for your help
Hi channel. I’m having an issue with playing audio. I was wondering if someone might know the solution.
Looking to configure azureus on my GUI laptop then move the config to my headless box and run it just as a daemon and access it via www plug in… kind of lost
UEnigma, what kind of issue? do you have alsa installed? etc, more info would be nice
Sometimes, randomly, when I start my computer (laptop) and I try to play audio files there is no sound. “yes | aplay” doesn’t even play anything.
Sometimes I just need to restart and it works, but it’s been an issue that I had in Ubuntu as well as Debian.
hmm, odd, could it be something like artsd interfering? I’ve seen that before, where someone had to keep pkill arts to get it going
I’m not sure. I am not familiar with artsd.
do you have KDE installed?
No, I use gnome.
or Fluxbox.
does anyone here know how to set up the alsa sound base?
and one’s sound card?
ok, so it shouldn’t be artsd getting in the way, the fact it’s intermittent doesn’t sound good to me, not sure what to try
run alsaconf
ah…
as root, i see
thanks
i;m an idiot
GNOOOOOOME
i was looking for something like that as a user
I tried the alsaconf just now also… went through the config process… the audio is still not playing.
turn up the volumes with alsamixer,
I did.
you guys are awesome. I really appreciate the effort the debian (and linux) community puts into helping others.
you have only the one sound card?
If this were Windows, it would be “reinstall the drivers”. No? Format and install the os again.
brasero isn’t finding the dvd burner drive, what should i do?
cast, yup. It’s a lappy top. So it might be seeing my modem as a audio device?
It has a 56K built in
hmm, dunno. i’m too poor to use laptops
there is a #alsa channel
sometimes a screen window I am in freezes, and it stays on the screen
O RLY?! Alright, I’ll give that a look see.
when I hit alt left or alt right, it’s still there even after I kill both the irssi, and screen process
if I type ps xa | grep login, and kill all the instances, I’ll get a normal “debian login:” prompt again – but for this particular instance, I cannot get rid of the irssi screen window
I don’t see it under ps xa | grep irssi, screen, or login, yet it’s there.. staring me in the face, wasting one of the login screens
is there a way to get rid of this frozen screen instance and get a login terminal back?
Is FAM normally running in debian? Can it moniter changed in a FAT file system over the network? Like with smb mount?
changes*
the usual ctrl-c and ctrl-d do nothing against this beast
which is unfortunate
Thasp, Why not killall -9 it?
you didn’t hit ctrl-A ctrl-S s did you?
i used to do something like that by accident, thought i had frozen screen
When I have a frozen screen, I usually try ctrl-a q and ctrl-a x.
One of them might help.
does anybody know why am i getting this error http://www.pastebin.ca/655226 from vanila kernel ?
I don’t have the killall command
Or c-a c-s, actually.
for crontab, to run a command as root, how would it prompt for root when running an automatic command?
It is ctrl-a d to detach the stuff. Then you will be able to re attach it where you want
I’ll try those now, itchi
Thasp, Really? How do you live without it? And how did you get debian installed without it?
I missed it since I went from gentoo to debian
I installed debian with 3 floppies
maybe 2
I was missing a ton of stuff
Or simply, re attach it in a console with screen -dr
it’s not there
What mean you exactly with it’s not there?
there are 2 screens to be reattached to, but not the frozen one
you know when you hit alt-left or alt-right, and you’re on the box itself, and you have 5 or 6 different logins you can run at once?
Thasp, Ah cool, I don`t think I have a floppy drive on any of my computers anymore. Although I had a 5 and 1/2 working a while back to copy some old disks to HD…
even though the screen process is not running, it’s still there
I dunno then, i may kill it with -9
how? there’s no process
I tried killing all the login processes
all the screen processes, and it remains
I don’t even have a PID number for it
Weird
yeah
It has top secret information on it
I need to go to my stupid job right now
so I’d kile to kill it
but I don’t want to reboot and ruin the uptime :/
Hahha
what does killall come with anyway?
is there a package it usually comes with? I’m surprised I lack that command
hmm
kill -9 `ps -A -o “PID=”`
I may just have to reboot
^ Murders everything.
I don’t want to murder everything
I miht as well reboot ten
Hm…
I have routing services running
I just want to clear the screen with the top secret information
psmisc
Isn’t there a point and click kill process?
I know it exists in twm.
psmisc = command not found
apt-cache show psmisc
can i ask an english question ?
you already did
Hahaha
hi graytron
graytron, how would you call this in english that do not allow access pics from other sites ?
I even apt-get installed it, and yet psmisc = command not found. it’s not in /usr/bin either
blocking?
the screen is not totally dead – if the internet disconnects, it says “eth0 link down” on the bottom of it
howabout killall then?
what does killall come with anyway?
killed everything but that login
answer: psmisc
here is what I am thinking
if the internet gfoes down, “eth0 link down” shows up in that screen
if I plug and unplug the cat5 enough, it’ll say “link up, link down”, and eventually push the top secret information off the screen
I can live with one screen of random net messages
killall -9 screen and killall -9 login didn’t do it
graytron, i don’t get it
time to unplug and plug the cat5 in
what are you trying to achieve?
graytron, i mean, for example there is a file at abc.com/foo.png , can only access to this file from abc.com ,so link to this file from other site will not work
graytron, anti-leech ?
I am trying to get rid of the info ont he screen
it froze in the middle of me giving someone sensitive information
sounds to me like abc is blocking the use of its resources on other sites
a screen with no getty?
getty?
graytron, yeah, so how do you define this thing in english ?
and with screen do you mean something that usually runs a getty?
I don’t know what a getty is
the process running on your virtual consoles (alt-f1 through alt-f6) which accepts logins
yes
I ran screen from one of these so I could reconnect to it at work
Is there an effective way to configure my e-mail client (Thunderbird) to access my local e-mail server from the internal ip when I’m connected to my network and through the external dedicated ip when connecting from the public network?
and now it is frozen. screen freezes a lot, but the above defined methods usually get rid of the frozen instance.
and “screen -d” doesn’t help?
or “screen -wipe” (which kills the screen)
screen -d has not helped
I have killall -9 screen as well
anyone?
have you tried pressing ctrl-q ?
I have tried ctrl-q, and many other combinations
ctrl-f, ctrl-u, ctrl-c, ctrl-k, ctrl-a, ctrl-c, ctrl-d, ctrl-s
ctrl-a ctrl-q?
Or perhaps try asking around in #screen- it’s probably a FAQ there.
if killall-9 screen doesn’t do it, what would they do?
err, killall -9
they’re no longer in the equation
are you sure you still have a getty running on that tty?
I still have no idea what a getty is
there’s a getty gas station a mile from here
try “deallocvt” ?
it didn’t error, but didn’t do anything either.
you still have that “irssi/screen thing” visible?
yeah, it’s right on the crt in front of me
looking and laughing at me
howabout you kill the getty process running on that tty then?
kill -HUP pid_of_the_getty_on_that_tty
I don’t know the pid of the getty on that tty, or what getty is
except for a local gas station
ps -A|grep getty
ps auxw | grep getty
heh
hm
killall -9 getty ?
no
I’m not taking any chances
-9 is so brutal when -2 or -HUP will do
-9 keeps it real
no it doesn’t
killall -9 getty did it
all owned
more likely to get a zombie process
zombies?
erm, excuse me, much more
I don’t want a computer with zombies
my last one had horses, which is why I stopped using XP ICS as a router
a process that has died, wasn’t claimed by the parent properly, and sits there doing nothing. man ps
horses sound better than zombies by far.
then init takes parenthood of it
init = foster parent?
or abusive uncle
oh well, thanks for the help
pretty much (the former)
In Theory, if I want to reach further away, which wifi channel should I use? The high-freq ones or the low-freq ones?
is there a way to set my keyboard option up so I can use some key combo-number key (NOT on the number pad)?
the high ones have increased range and more power hunger
ok. Thanks!
ok
now, in practice, does it make a difference?
channel 1 vs chan 11?
dunno
can anyone teach me how to use gnupg
plenty of decent docs online
can gnupg decrypt passwd?
In GNOME, how do I enter in special characters without using the number pad?
on an older install I could just do Ctrl+Shift and the main number keys but now that does not work
gnupg is not a haxx0r tool
it’s an anti-haxx0r tool
!hi
hello, jherrera
is there a tool to decrytp passwd?
john
painfully slow against md5
ps, passwd is already dectypted
its shadow you are looking for
damnit
whats a shadow if u dont mind
cat /etc/shadow
pastebin please
jk
How do I insert special characters without a character map?
!wayttd micros1
What Are You Trying To Do, micros1?
/msg dpkg extended chars
nope
worksforme
download and install john the ripper, and then you will run something like john shadow passwd, and it will combine the usernames and passwords from the files and attemtp the match md5 salts against itself and perfrorm the crack
I’m talking stuff like ö”™‡
not the composing
im searching for tool to decrypt password in user accounts
oh. I can get them using urxvt.
micros1 john.
john?
we’re not going to help you crack someone’s account. Piss off.
micros1 n3kl actually mentioned it, actually
im not tryng to crack someones account
sure
micros1 this is not something you should normally be doing without a very odd requirement. why are you doing it?
you will need their shadow and passwd files to crack. This is totally legit.
because he wants to get at his elder brother’s pr0n stash
Guerin good enough
I used to be able to press Ctrl+Shift or Ctrl+Shift and use the number keys (above the QWERTY row) and I could put in Unicode characters
imho
err
Alt+Shift*
its for my system administration subject
and i will use knoppix for that
use urxvt and you will again.
not on debian
oh, so you’re getting us to do your homework.
micros1 fyi, cracking a linux password will take quite a long while compared to current attacks available for ntlm and similar. if you are doing it for demonstration, use a short password, 4 or 5 letters, so it only takes a little while
Classy.
there another name for that? Synaptics can’t find it
make the password bob
it will crack fast =]
rxvt-unicode-ml, perhaps
“a” is even faster
not really im looking for a tool Guerin
i suggest a mirror.
isn’t the point of homework that you do it yourself?
not on a dictionary attack
=]
sorry im just asking help
micros1 something you may not be aware of, is the password used for accounts isn’t encrypted as such usually, it’s hashed. you can’t directly decrypt it. what the system does is encrypt it and compare the result against the encrypted text, it doesn’t decrypt to check
lol.
micros1 if you didn’t know that, it’s a rather important distinction
I just upgraded from Sarge 3.1 2.6.8-2-386 to Etch 2.6.18-4-686. My screen keeps blinking on and off, although my pure console screens don’t.
micros1 the system itself cannot get the plaintext without brute forcing it
rxvt
My xserver screen is blinking on and off. I’m using xserver-xorg and an ATI Radeon 9600/256mb agp card
that’s not the unicode version.
Still can’t do it heh
/msg dpkg set up x
use the unicode flavour and you can
have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
but that’s just a terminal emulator
hmm, ok got azureus running in console mode.. but still can’t see anything for the web plugin… it’s in the config but no port open or anything
yes…3 times
of course it is.
also, my fonts look horrible.
I used to be able to insert Unicode characters in any GNOME app
which driver are you using?
I got two other web servers running (one is apache2 the other is cherry.py) and they work fine (different ports of course)
you CAN insert them using the extended chars thing I shoed you before
the ATI driver that comes with xserver-xorg
but only in the teminal emulator
I’m following the instructions from http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
Guerin how’s that?
but my screen keeps flashing black, then back to normal…it’s driving me batty!
no, you’re not paying attention.
can anyone here tell me how to properly create a shortcut for iceweasel to open a link in the main menu?
Kevin`: how’s what?
Guerin type unicode stuff
does anyone know if there is a service like pandora or last.fm that can easily be used via the command line?
Kevin`: /msg dpkg extended chars
using the compose key
aac
Kevin`: I used to be able to press Ctrl+Shift then using the numbers above the QWERTY row to insert unicode characters
hi, why does icedove is stop downloading e-mails from my gmail account?
is it pop supported?, the gmail account?
I’m wondering if the screen blinking is tied to mouse events.
Kevin`: in any GNOME app – it would show the hex for the unicode underlined then it would create the character when the keys were released
which driver are you using? the free one or the ati one?
are there any other applications that you think could be interfering with the port?
Kind of like Window’s Alt+ NumPad keys
the free one, I suppose. I didn’t d/l anything from ati’s site.
it is, the mouse will wake the screen from dpms modes
so what’s making my screen go black than back up again? spms?
dpms
you could try the other one… Though it never happened to me…
possibly dpms
i just use my compose key
in terminal type xset dpms 0 999 0
and see if that fixes it
Compose cant do Unicode
mesof, yes it is pop supported, it was working good, I have observed the problem some days ago
yes it FUCKING CAN
that
k..
prove it
that is my whole fucking point
what’s setting it off?
ComposeKey+Numbers does not create unicode characters
I don’t know
prove it
ComposeKey+Shift+Numbers does not create unicode characters
prove it
It’s still doing it.
Insert U+356C
U+256C
it seems to have calmed it a bit
and what character is that?
that’s meaningless
type it and find out
mesof, the port is free for icedove, 995 right?
spoke too soon, still doing it
356C
;p
what’s snmp for?
Can you do that?
hey i was wondering is this most likely a utf issue? i use mpc and when i “cat *.m3u | grep http | mpc add” i can’t play the radio station or what ever music but if i manually type in the url’s mpc works?
á — compose does that
where can I get the ATI 9600 driver? ati.com?
yes
But I do not need that
and that gets printed out in unicode
that’s ASCII
ascii range, so what? still displays in unicode. what’s your point?
you need to figure out what’s setting it off
Try looking for “fglrx” packages. There are quite a lot of howtos in the net. I’ve never used ATI so I can’t help you.
As I said before, I want to type out every character between 0 and 65535
compose does not do that
why? do you actually need that?
raçt¬r§
can anybody tell me another reason because icedove (thunderbird) stop downloading e-mails?
you lose
fuck you
you dont understand what I am asking
some times isp’s block common email ports as an attempt to stop spammers, I had to call my isp to have them unblock the email services spam free port
hrm, seems someone is losing temper
how would i find out if –cmd-owner is available on debian kernels? what i want to do is make it so only iceweasel and others can access port 80, and other stuff like that, is this feasible/worthwhile?
i know it sounds crazy, but it’s true
go and read the fucking file we explained to you.
mesof, can I change the 995 port?
in iptables i mean sorry
I said I do not need some dumb accented characters – I have no use for them
it documents the shortcut to those characters, and how to construct more.
how about you answer my question?
what else is open?
/msg NickServ id pass ?
ghost
if you want to insert arbitrary unicode into a terminal, then you need to use a terminal that can do that, like rxvt-unicode.
and what is that?
/msg NickServ GHOST id pass ? excuse me
otherwise use compopse.
why? do you actually need that?
mesof, amsn, xchat,iceweasek, gnome-terminal, amarok
yes
the nickserv command is ghost
i would first try closing all but the chat and test it
I’m talking about GUI apps
in any case, your actual problem is about a feature which went missing from gnome – not an uncommon occurrence. So ask #gnome irc.gnome.org what happened.
why? do you actually need that?
hallah loo ya i have my name back
if the problem continues i would continue to look for answers, but i would call the isp and complain of the problem i just told you about, about the email port being blocked
mesof, ok
To insert special characters (including control characters)\
simple yes or no will suffice
brb..need to restart my xwerver
it’s probably your isp
xwerver?
xserver
lol
lol, oh
mesof, I find it impossible
got confused
“i’m too good to type accents”
what do you find impossible?
flaming piece of ota
I do not need accents at all
sometimes a French accent is nice
i personally have a mutt accent of a brit and an american
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