Im planing to do an apt-get dist-upgrade on a productive working system 202 packets are going to be actualized
is it possible to use beryl on debian?
RyanW, either your master have issues, or you are asking for a transfer on a zone it does not have. i’d double check my config
I just changed an IP of my debian box
and its working, but it cant go out beyond it’s own subnet, something is wrong with the default gateway
it *looks* fine, but it doesnt want to go out default gateway
other than confirming /etc/hosts and /etc/network/interfaces are correct, what could I look at?
traceroute -n www.debian.org
that’s traceroute -n 194.109.137.218 in case you have no DNS reachable
but any outside address will do
bangers, route -n verify you realy have a default gw (it’s the on starting with 0.0.0.0)
trying to download kernelkit form sources unstable what is the line to add to sources list file?
can someone tellme the command to get to the x config thingy i forgot ;P
how should i go about getting ntfs-3g on etch?
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
tnx
hrm, why was tzdata upgraded from volatile?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/debian-volatile-announce-2007/msg00010.html
now i have an extra cursor icon floating on my screen
thanks for finding that
this is weirding me out
so does your nick 
I’d put money on it being DST dates, many countries don’t have fixed dates so tzdata needs updating twice a year for each of them
ya
i woulda thought the main repo could have been used though, not everyone uses volatile
I’m just glad it’s being done at all, correct tzdata is extremely important to us
running PHP within a chroot?
I’m not really sure how to get all the structure set up
hard links and that
on a related note, could anyone give me any hints about how to manage the massive amounts of complex interrelated structure that hosting creates? I manage it all quite manually but mistakes do happen, and applying a changed apache setting to a dozen sites is currently a lot of work….
m using cups and samba. and i have a little problem in printer class status in windows when i paused the class it shows the printer status not the printer class status anyone have an idea how to fix that?
I mean perhaps I should buy RHEL and cpanel/ensim/plesk
but… maybe I’d have more freedom if I just wrote some validation scripts or something
Hi, just installed etch and miss the rtl8139 network driver for my net card. Isn’t it shipped with etch or where could I find it (locate wasn’t helpful, kernel 2.6.18-4-686)?
don’t like 8139too ?
(I think that’s what the newer one was called)
rtl8139 always had instability problems for me
you have to select driver 8139too and 8139cp
thanks for the hints will try it!
you can do this in config file and compile kernel
CONFIG_8139CP=m
CONFIG_8139TOO=m
CONFIG_8139TOO_PIO=y
CONFIG_8139TOO_TUNE_TWISTER=y
er… harpal, there’s no indication qwertz is compiling a kernel
and we don’t normally encourage that without a reason
just try using the 8139too module instead (unless you have already)
ohh sorry
Hello
hey what’s that package that install kernel
linux-kernel
I’m planing to do an apt-get dist-upgrade on a productive, working system. 202 packets are going to be actualized, 20 deleted, 99 new installed. Will I possibly run into trouble with some self compiled programms? Will postgres /postgis + apache + php5 still work after upgrading? Will any config files be overwritten? Do I have to save my configs first? What else to I have to keep in mind?
Whoops, I meant linux-image
aptitude install linux-kernel
Couldn’t find package “linux-kernel”. However, the following
apt-cache search linux-image
402 pakets are going to be actualized, not 202
orkam_wrk, I have no idea, sorry.
user1__:linux-image
linux-image-2.6-686 2.6.18+6
linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 , i have them both,, should i deinstall one
2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2
Hello, I need to configure a fax/modem called wisecom WS-5614EV1G but I think that there is no driver for linux, exist another project/driver to run a generic external modem on linux? thanks in advance
and 2.6.18+6
You have the most suitable kernel for your current system
really?
im going to ask what i believe is a troll question
so im all good?
user1_:linux-image-2.6.18-6-686
has anyone here installed netfilter nth extension or equivalent?
so what’s linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2
techbee, doesn’t the linux-image-686 metapackage keep his kernel up to date?
does anyone know the BEST way to install netfilter/iptables on debian systems?
you are right
will apt-get dist-upgrade delete my config files, and will it possibly prevent postgres/gis + apache2 + web hosting with php5 from working?
oops
does anyone know the best host way to install netfilter/iptables extensions on debian systems?
ie does it have to involve kernel rebuild?
so is my kernel any good? i have linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2 and linux-image-2.6-686 2.6.18+6
Let’s say, is it suggested to do a dist-upgrade on a productive (old) system or would it be better to upgrade every single packet manually (much work)?
orkam; i think your config files should be ok but just back them up in case, it’s good practice to back up important configs anyway.
tar -zvcf etc.tar.gz /etc
user1__, your kernel is fine.
Rune_, ok, I’ll do that in any case. Am I to expect any danger to my system updating 402 packages?
Rune_; no doubt something will break
oops
linux-image-686 is a metapackage for linux-image-2.6-686 is a metapackage for linux-image-2.6.18-4-686
As far as I know
orkam_wrk; no doubt something will break
orkam_wrk; apache2 and php5 should be well looked after
ie their dependancies etc shouldnt be messed with too much by the maintainers of apt sources or whatever
so u should be safe for your webserver, im guessing
however, what the frik have they done to vi! hehe
ok, I’ll have a try… *hoping.the.best*
orkam_wrk, it’s always nice to do it on a test system if you have the luxury
even if u just imaged the drive or something
put the image on your test system and give it a go
Rune_, good idea. That will cost some extra time, but is much saver…
so no one here has used nth netfilter extension? i want random packet dropping
anyone using compiz-fusion or beryl here?
what’s the problem?
when i try to apt-get install compiz-fusion-gnome it says all the dependencies won’t be met
no idea anyone how to configure a serial modem on linux? I think that there is no driver
are those non-offical repositories that you are using?
can you be more specific on the unmet libraries
im using cups and samba. and i have a little problem in printer class status in windows when i paused the class it shows the printer status not the printer class status anyone have an idea how to fix that?
http://www.google.com/search?q=serial+modem+debian should help you :]
compiz-fusion-gnome is not in debian.
i’ve seen compiz-fusion on debian
I haven’t, a fresh sid install here
I saw normal compiz here though
if you are still stuck, you always can search for your modem’s name + Linux
guess what? No such package.
hi
hi bliss
obviously, but just because it’s not a default doesn’t mean it can’t be installed
obviously that doesn’t mean #debian will support it.
how do i update to sid from etch then
!iyhtays
If you have to ask, you shouldn’t.
well, i’ll ask when someone that can help me comes on later i guess
yes, but I think that there is no driver wisecom WS-5614EV1G but I think that there is no driver for linux
it’s documented pretty well, and it’s reccomended to not use sid if you don’t know what you’re doing
looking for wavtools pakage but apt cannot find it
please ask the people who gave you that package. We have no idea about that package.
rgappo; are you just after the standard modem capabilities?
what’s so bad about sid
!sid
version of Debian. Commonly backronymed Still In Development. It’s actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released.
the good thing is, you get to keep all those fancy pieces.
pretty isn’t it?
apt-cache search wav tools
It’s a old modem fax, but I need it to configure to use using hylafax, it’s a serial modem
what about lenny
!lenny
somebody said lenny was the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. Lenny is the binoculars. ask me about etch-lenny
rgappo; if it supports some kind of “standard” fax command set you might be lucky, try researching whether there are various families of modem command sets and if so, try to identify which your modem uses
!etch-lenny
Edit your sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of ‘etch’ or ’stable’ to ‘lenny’. Save the file, then update and dist-upgrade. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about d-d-a) to be aware of what developments are happening. NOTE: you should be running a 2.6 kernel before trying to upgrade
hey, I have apache userdir installed and working but Im having problems making files editable by more than one user, having a collaboration space. can anyone explan how this works. We want to develop mysql/php stuff
you can /msg the bot to. you might want a chroot install off stable.
rgappo; you might have some luck asking questions on the mailing list for the fedora linux fax software you have chosen
okey thanks, some people says me that if it uses serial port, that does not need a ‘driver’, it is correct?
rgappo; it may be correct, if there is such a thing as “fax command set”
the software just needs to know what language to talk to the modem in to make it do fax operations
but esentially the software will just open the serial port
but, how to see if the medem was detected first?
the kernel has lots of support for serial ports of all kinds.
all modem drivers do usually is set initialisation options
thanks heres what I got http://www.pastebin.org/37
hi all
rgappo; open a conncetion to the serial port the modem is on and type ATenter
dont ask me how to open a serial port connection i dont know in linux
try minicom
hehehe, I don’t know too
there you go, minicom… any terminal software should be fine
can you tell me what you want to do with it?
how to do random packet dropping with iptables?
minicom with no params?
if the modem is plugged into your first serial port (dmesg | grep tty should return ttys0 in this case)
it’s worth a go to see if it works
Do you know which serial port it’s plugged into?
can anyone direct me to a guide on kernel recompilation under debian?
dont answer that
*google*
theres a great section in the Debian manual
theres a manual??
installation manual
On www.debian.org
cool
I’m glad they thought of it
I see that, it is detected then? [ 1.401433] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0×3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
great – it’s your first serial port… minicom is probably already configured for it.
courious, what’s this command say? dpkg -l minicom | grep minicom
ii minicom 2.2-4build1 friendly menu driven serial communication program
I am under minicom menu, but I have no idea what I need to do now
rgappo; experiment a bit, it’s the best way to learn
type ATZ
or just AT
but, when I type, I don’t see the letters
well said
well i have no sound/audio on my labtop and the files on the cd are WAV audio and mp3 . i have run alsamixer and the info is ok or seems to be ie card: ATI IXP chip: Realtek alc250 rev 2 view: [playback] capture all Item: master
rgappo; not seeing the letters is normal hehe
press enter, then AT enter
install mplayer or something, then try playing media files
hello, I want to be able to change my CPU frequence. here is the ouput of ‘grep name /proc/cpuinfo’ : model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
!tell rgappo -about based on debian
your minicom is apparently ubuntu packaged
which module must I load ? p4-clockmod or speedstep-centrino ?
ahah! ubuntu user!
you need to have the correct governor in the kernel and something like cpufreq
the boxes are, debian, ubuntu and slackware
yes I’m on a ubuntu at this time but It(s not my own PC I use myself debian testing
i will give that a try thanks
yes but before choosingthe governor I have to load the correct module
you need to have alsa installed properly, too
berto; and how did i know that you ask?
apt-get install alsa alsa-utils mplayer
and then run alsaconfto configure it
ask google 
my shizzy works
er how can i determine what distro is a particular debian box
and if it’s ubuntu ask #ubuntu – maybe they changed something we don’t know about.
!tell berto -about based on debian
oops i know.
is that processeur, which is see as two one, is a Intel Core Duo or a ‘normal’ Pentium IV
we’re flattered about all the debian like distros, but they do things their own way ya know?
this command, would work? rto: and if it’s ubuntu ask #ubuntu – maybe they changed something we don’t know about.
sorry
/dev/ttys0
/dev/ttys0: Input/output error
it’s not really a ubuntu question sorry for disturbing you….
rgappo; i dont *think* u can pipe/redirect () output to serial ports but could be wrong
use minicom, type AT and hope it says +OK
if nothing else is using it you should be able to
RTFM — here are a couple of links for n00bs
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Dynamic_Frequency_Scaling#General
he’s gone
http://www.linuxnewsblog.com/2007/07/howto-change-cpu-frequency-scaling-in.html
oh
yes but, I launch minicom (I type at) but I don’t see nothing
rgappo; then u may be on the wrong serial port, can you physically change the port the modem is on?
i never used minicom so i dont know
wykis; thanks interesting tralala told me that its already configured in etch kde
how can I change gtk’s font size when I’m using kde
Hi there! I would like to upgrade just one package (which I downloaded from the net). How to do that please?
ok bliss
rgappo; ok, if u press CTRL A, Z does it say offline in bottom right?
yes, it is bad nope?
rgappo; offline means not connected
ie probably wrong port
do you agree ?
How can I force to use minicom to an specific port?
I think that is /dev/ttys0
rgappo; man minicom, looks like it has a config file
ctrl-a should show you a status bar along the bottom
it is offline
ctrl-a z will give you a list of commands
did you try man dpkg?
dpkg -i somepackage.deb
will install it for you
ctrl-z a o will get you to the configuration menu. Choose Serial Port Setup, and you can choose your serial port
yes… a second ago. dpkg tells me a lot of unresolved dependencies in ma package…
what are you trying to install?
sorry, I don’t have an opinion on that
and are you running etch?
ubuntustudio… but I can’t find the new ardour2 package there, and the one I have is outdated and a bit buggy…
when I do fakeroot make-kpkg modules_image or just make-kpkg modules_image, it outputs contents of one of the rules’ files. what to do? http://rafb.net/p/ocV0SV87.txt
what about WAV audio files when I tried to open then with mplayer i get [AO OSS] audio_setup can’t open audio device /dev/dsp: no such file or diectory
have you considered a google search for “ardour2 ubuntustudio howto” ?
no results…
yup me too
“ardour2 ubuntu”
turns up lots of shizzy though
audio on a usb stick
did you configure alsa yet?
ooooh
then I have no clue sorry
so the results from “ardour2 ubuntu” should give you something in the first few
hi
with root, run alsaconf, that might help
that all doesn’t concern the newest version but the one I have…
never mind, I’ll get around it…! Thanks
ok no talk to me about that do I run alsaconfto ?
I’m trying to get SpamAssassin working on my machine (‘im still new to debian/linux), so basically I have two options: I can use SpamAssassin with procmail or postfix. Can anybody tell what the differences are (are there any pros or cons)
‘alsaconf’
how easy is it to set up an ldap replication?
anybody
postfix is an MTA
procmail is a filter
ok, where would you place spamassassin?
i would not use spamassassin, because it is RBL list based and I feel that this is an unfair and inefficient way of dealing with SPAM
well
it needn’t be
i think DSPAM and greylisting would be a better solution
I agree entirely about RBLs being bad and wrong, but spamassassin is a bayesian content filter
the best solution I have come across is greylisting, which kills more than 75% of my spam before SMTP
don’t get karsten started on this
agreed, greylisting alone ( on the SMTP level ) kills as much as 89% of my SPAM
the rest I run through spamassassin, which tags (but never deletes)
i get about 10 anti spam filter webmail host a week
some of my users get more
I got angry when my entire ISP where my server is located got pretty much blacklisted on a RBL list
yesterday I had sound and today i restarted and no
yes, I experienced that, too
because of of a couple of bad eggs … block everyone is a bad practice imho
so I don’t use blacklists at all
its a very bad practice
SPEWS sucks
they’re prone to misuse and corruption; one step away from extortion
what changed?
wasn’t there a thing recently about paying to be removed from blacklists?
Guerin, i dont know
what’s the difference between * and ! for the passwd field for /etc/gshadow and like ?
yes, but that wasn’t one of the main blacklists – i think that was a pay-to-be-whitelisted
find out.
yeah
goodmail? maybe.
is it possible to recovery a file deleted via the ‘rm’ command?
depends. WHat filesystem?
ya, that was it
Guerin, ext2
manual tell’s if it’s * or ! the user won’t be able to login cause it’s nota crypt passwd result
watch it get taken over by spammers paying to be put on the whitelist…
you’re in luck. Ext2 doesn’t journal, so you can use undelete tools. mc has one.
hi all
disabled passwd
quite.
pay to be whitelisted
thats really great
simonrvn, so it doesn’t matter whether it be ! or * ?
ok
thank you
Guerin, interesting. i always thought it was the other way round. btw, what is mc?
can anyone give me a hand sorting out a problem with glibc6-xen, i am unable to install it. I get the following message (i am trying to install xen) libc6-xen: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6.ds1-13) but 2.6-2 is to be installed
Broken packages
midnight commander
/msg dpkg undelete
it does, can’t remember what the difference is, man passwd has that info i think
ok, thks.
simonrvn, oh ok thank you again
[Nige]: you’re way out of your depth.
[Nige]: /msg dpkg bobbitt
Guerin, I know this is why I am looking for help
[Nige]: show us your sources.list please in paster bot
[Nige]: don’t mix stable with unstable – we don’t support it and you will horribly break your system, likely beyond repair. And we will laugh.
!paste
Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
wykis; take a look here please http://www.pastebin.org/38
[Nige]: have you actually installed any packages yet?
okay, hang on a tick i will copy up the config first
why debian take out openwebmail from repo?
because of the reasons described in the bugreport which preceded its removal.
why do you ask at least once a week?
where is that reporta again?
Could you please advice apt proxy/cacher? Now I use apt-proxy, but it often not suitable…
bugs.debian.org
im writing a report about maiil system
that includes openwebmail piece of crap
ooh i see
translation: were doing everyone’s homework
i need to tell them why it’s removed
what the syntax for finding channel ops?
again
no kidding
/msg dpkg ops foo
[Nige]: etch isn’t testing
nah, like a chanserv or nickserv one
I should have like 6 or 7 degrees by now
apt-get install linux-image-2.6-xen-vserver-686 xen-hypervisor-3.0.3-1-i386-pae xen-tools xen-linux-system-2.6.18-4-xen-vserver-686 linux-headers-2.6-xen-vserver-686 libc6-xen bridge-utils
depends on your need.
checked apt-cacher?
for another channel
again?
i have all installed except for glibc6-xen
[Nige]: we know that already
dunno
easily, in multiple domains too
it wont install about dependancies
user1__, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=301561
[Nige]: give up now.
oi
what you need is zorp baby
[Nige]: you missing stable with testing, see what we told you before
how to find channel ops?
why give up?
I’d like try approx
i have just installed debian 4.0 rc0 I think
for #d? /j #debian-ops
[Nige]: because what you’re doing is tryuing to graft a turkey’s head onto a duck’s body
nah just on freenode in general
Guerin well where is a good tutorial on how to install it?
and not just stuff a duck in a turkey
[Nige]: you’re putting unstabole packages into stable. It’s never going to work.
check /msg chanserv access #debian list
no
[Nige]: /msg dpkg xen
okay, so I should change to unstable then?
danke
i don’t use it myself
[Nige]: no.
go to freenote website, its mentioned there
i want the official reason why debian developer exclude openwebmail package
see the BTS
so go and look at the fucking bugreport
not those mail
see the BTS
i dont like the idea of giving up
re XEN and how to install on etch go to http://www.howtoforge.com
i thought you knew..
[Nige]: hell, no
yer thats what I was following
i believae anyways
[Nige]: there will be a way on stable, i just don’t knoiw it
openwebmail? not in debian i assume?
user1__, the reason is in the bug url i gave you
forgot that, its that often i need to know, usually RichiH is here
http://www.howtoforge.com/debian_etch_xen_from_debian_repository I have been following that guide
NOT*
[Nige]: if that guide told you to mix unstable and etch, the person who wrote it needs beaten with an axe handle
ya, i have never made it a point to remember
maybe i should follow the debian-etch install guide rather then do xen
now they are going to ask me why we use openwebmail in debian if it has bug
something with “staff” or similar, just visit freenode’s website
see the BTS
[Nige]: maybe you should familiarise yourself with your chose OS before trying to do extremely advanced things on it
you will find that fako at howtoforge will answer any posts within 24 hours
cydork told me already
whats bt
I have been playing with debian for a little
!tell user1__ -about bts
i am a ubuntu convert
anyone prepared stable and testing and have /etc/gshadow from stable and testing compared ?
but i want to play with debian some more
!praise [Nige]
forget it, i’ll just say, openwebmail is not in debian package system, so those fuckers who want to run it on debian must manually install it
bforget it, i’ll just say, openwebmail is not in debian package system, so those fuckers who want to run it on debian must manually install it/b
[Nige]: how is xen relevant to this?
i don’t know why they are so different…
now
well, that will list all chanops, but not staffer
becausei want to install xen on debian
!nickometer [Nige]
‘[Nige]‘ is 10.000% lame, liable
therefore i need not to explain why the fuck debian think openwebmail is vulnerable and should be removed
xen is ok but if you have a lot of probs i suggest vmware
right guys?
see the BTS
channel ops is all i was after
yer, but i dont think you can run vmware without a gui
ok
I want headless box
enough with the language unless your looking for a timeout
[Nige]: a quick look at that howto indicates that no unstable/sid gear is needed, so I don’t know where you fucked it up
I already have the jboss server hosting running samba and dns and dhcp
wykis take a lok here please http://www.pastebin.org/38
i want vmware running squid
ok
sorry
[Nige]: if you can back out all the changes you’ve made thus far, I recommend doing it again, and properly this time.
well virtual machine
[Nige]: fix sources.list first
i dont mind reinstall debian at all
[Nige]: well, thats a good idea
as i said, i am playing with a vmware session rather than F@King ona productions machien
i am smarter than screwing with a production machine
we all know its frustrating when bugs and issues affect your specific setup, but complaining like that just distances you more from the people your asking for help from, if that makes any sense
we all know its frustrating when bugs and issues affect your specific setup, but complaining like that just distances you more from the people your asking for help from, if that makes any sense
tell him to go see the bts if he asks again
hehehe
monitor now ff
you need to execute that file
not view it..
okay I will reinstall etch
[Nige]: read the install guide before you come back here.
[Nige]: especially the bit about how apt works.
[Nige]: you need in general 2 lines only
ok hanks as root just run sh ./alsaconf
[Nige]: one for the official mirror and one for security, not more
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
user1__, if you bothered to read the url i pasted http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=301561, you would learn how and why it is vulnerable, and it’s the reason it’s never been part of a stable release.
Hi
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ testing main non-free
oh wrong
s/testing/etch/
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ etch main non-free
okok i’m sure there is always one or more reasons for debian to exclude a package, but i have something better to do than reading that crap
this “crap” answer your question
it doesn’t matter to me really, if debian has it, i aptitude install it, otherwise, i dl source and install it myself
I have a program that I want to reserve 80% of the procesing power. I don’t want the kernel to manage the power dynamically, I want to arbitrarily dedicate that amount of CPU to the program. How can I do this?
so you come here expecting us to bear the burden of doing the hard part for you?
and then wait for your machine to get owned?
i don’t care this kind of developer’s crap, im not interest in developing this webmail thing nor debian packages system
so if you have better things to do than reading the answer to your question, why didn’t you have better things to do than fucking bother us about it?
also if I have a dual core, maybe I can dedicate one
im a user to set this ting up
it’s nothing to do with that, the program has huge security holes
i swear your mouth is worse than his!
i do not suffer fuckwits gladly.
how do i check what packages does a package required as depencies?
dependencies
packages.debian.org
i want to find those on system
apt-cache show package
you know, unix isn’t exactly known for being a user friendly os of the “…and the monkey flips the switch” variety
user1__, apt-cache show packagename
that package is no longer existing , it’s an old package that has been removed
no more maintainese
maintenence
well
tzdata in stable has just received an update. When I want to view the Changelog in aptitute it tells me that “You can only view changelogs of offical Debian packages.” Please explain?
kaluva, you are perhaps pulling it in thru volatile ?
Hm, lemme check
but unix hosting is an os for ppl to join an irc channel and ask around!
and got sweared at
no idea about aptitude, but zless /usr/share/doc/pkgname/changelog.Debian.gz
We only swear at obnoxious idiots and willful ignorants.
kaluva, it’s going to be in stable in the next pointrelease
dry your eyes princess, and toughen up
Shadur, and friends and family
Sure. I just like to look at Changelogs before installing the update.
Yeah, you’re right.
notice how most of the time that happens its because some user came into the channel throwing offensive words and comments around at people
yes i see the big picture certainly
the user, developer, ppl in this channel
just ignore him
nelf and Rune_ thx it works I can send it!, but minicom shows the status offline, but it works
*plonk*
unfortunately, i don’t ignore people, i ignore subnets and isp’s
user1__/metbsd has been acting the idiot for a while now
i have only ever ignored one person. it was that or get banned because he is such a tard
well that explains alot actually
sounds like a OP then
heh, not an op
Cool.
liable is The OP
good to know…
no ops for me! way to argumentative
is there a way to watch encrypted dvds in debian?
libdvdcss from videolan
/msg dpkg decss
xine (website) has a nice FAQ about
heh
http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#AEN236
thanks
if I had op’s, this channel would look like a warzone by the time I was done cleaning up all the non speaking idlers
^^
cant really ban someone for ideling, heck we all do that one for hours/days
heh, you do realise that its really all of us regulars that have 50 nicks each to make it look like a big important channel
stop giving away our secrets
!sssh
stupid bot
yes, but its also easy to tell the regulars from the people who come online with a new ip/nick/ident and have never registered a single messages for months or years
ssssh!
im only complaining to keep up the facade
just dont mention gag-balls
Hello everybody, I’m running sid with linux-image-2.6.22-1-686 and i’v installed the nvidia driver (m-a a-i nvidia) BUT I’v got some litlle black square at the top of my screens, is there a known bug, workaround … ?
guess noone know or it is not easy…
(about my question)
I just want a processor quota instead of nicing things
’cause nice is dynamic and I need an strict quota of CPU
hi
I have only one file in /usr/share/xsessions but a lot more sessions. Are there any other folders that contain sessions?
ulimit?
Hey
When installing debian from a netinst cd, how long should the “getting package list” from network repo take?
Mine seems to be stuck on 40% for about the past 20 minutes.
few seconds
depends on connection speed .. couple seconds
I tried to add my user to sudoers
it worked
8Mbit down
but sudo doesn’t ask for a password
is that normal
So, there is a problem there then
yes it semm to be that one.. although it look like I can set a limit for things I run on the system but I can’t erstrict the rest of the system..
But I’ll chek it thank you
did I type that?
how to get Linux send only 3 bytes, and not 4 ? I am enduring problems because it actually converts 012 into CRLF …
!brb
brb, too. Be Right Back
no that brb dpkg
are there other brbs ?
depends on your conf
I just copied the root line and replaced root with my username
damn Ubuntu set it up all by itself
and your current login is user?
-E perhaps instead?
not root?
do you have a NOPASSWD around ?
yes
what’s that?
bad bad
that’s it’s aim ^^
aim?
in /etc/sudoers
Ubuntu != Slak
Slak?
I’m using Debian. I was just comparing
*buntu = I don’t freaking care
NOPASSWD = No Password
-E would output 15 bytes instead or 3 …
Funny that
good point
ok what do I have to do then
just a guess, can this be sorted with setserial?
isn’t it dangerous if sudo doesn’t ask for a passwd?
funny, my town name is called “Villers-en-Arthies”
what about ‘ instead of “?
Hi all
about as dangerous as an admin not reading the docs
Need some help installing debian
u got me anyway.
ville is my real name and it’s french for town
?
it’s a finnish boy name really
lol
so what do I have to do
yes, “of”
man sudoers
Defaults targetpw ALL ALL = (ALL) ALL
I am French
someone could help?
is that a taa then?
as in thank you it worked? or no it didnt?
Remove the NOPASSWRD bit
NOPASSWD bad
won’t icedove be security updated in etch?
just ask the real question
Err, no R in it
if there’s a breach, yes
i’m trying to install debian on an old laptop
there are
I did the test, and it outputs 15 chars as I expected; I want 3 !
acer tm 525TE
It’s good for specific programs, but not as a complete user
*shock*
indeed.
isn’t “user ALL=(ALL) ALL” fine?
with no potions on netinstall i come to an error
even with -ne ‘……’? ok just making sure what you were saying no to
im using cups and samba. and i have a little problem in printer class status in windows when i paused the class it shows the printer status not the printer class status anyone have an idea how to fix that?
I don’t have nopasswd in sudoers
i just wish etch had thunderbird 2.x
you should not touch Ubuntu defaults; you may not be able to log in as root anymore …
together with NOPASSWD is just stupid
and then i could stop packaging upstream binaries for our site of all that mozilla crap software that others (but me) want to use
ass this line too: Defaults targetpw
I don’t have the word NOPASSWD in sudoers
it will alow anyone to sudo but with the passwd
oh nm heh, i keep mentally visualizing that your device is interpreting the escapes or soemthing sry heh
also note that sudo asks password only once per 5mn … what means, you type it once for long time … I mean, maybe your actual settings do require a password, even if you are not asked to type it every time (5mn counter is local to terminal )
Then you should be getting a password prompt the first time you use sudo in ten minutes
I am having the bug with Linux sending to PIC; PIC was complaining “too many bytes received”, and, HP48 reports the same number of bytes than the PIC
lol I’m so used to Ubuntu. It asked for a password once in every terminal emulator/emulator’s tab
in english, what 3 bytes do you need to send?
not sure why you would be getting 3 with that
i get a error hdc lost interrupt
is there another folder besides /usr/share/xsessions that contains xsessions?
echo -ne “100012100″ | wc -c gives me 3 here
I dont “need” any thing; I just want that when I send 012, it only send THIS, and not #0Dh #0Ah …
I gave you compleet command; this means, problem lays in serial driver !
stty /dev/ttySX. isnt there a auto cr/lf option?
where can I change which xsession will be used by startx?
do you want osciloscope photo as proof ? this ****** problem is ****** my day
but serial has many options i thought
what do your stty -F /dev/ttyS0 show for options?
speed 9600 baud; line = 0; -brkint -imaxbel
this is not the apropriate command to ask for this feature
good morning. is it save to install j2re1.4_1.4.2.03-1_i386.deb to etch stable?
^^from http://www.blackdown.org
hardware or something?
pools – non-free
setserial dont say either what we need
local terminal: speed 38400 baud; line = 240; lnext = undef; min = 1; time = 0; -icrnl -icanon -echo
is that the stty of the terminal your echoing from?
Y
-crnl?
where can I change which xsession will be used by startx?
wouldnt that map your 012?
?
hmmm …
sec, gotta check something
I understand what you mean … I ll test it
Viva Linux
jajaja VIVA if i get it installed
?macaronesico
can i have your irc logs?
macaronesico, what u need?
!u
Damnit Jim! It’s YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for ‘you’ (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201
i just get to the guiinstall
my cdrom driver will not be recognized
worst case, do the test with minicom and send the alt+scan manually and test with the scope. i find minicom tends to give me a clean connection without all the stty junk from vt getting in the way
neither my ethernet card
installing from netinstall
etch
I broke my port, nothing comes out since I tried -icanon
on Acer TM 525TE
laptop
yup
is it supported
macaronesico, and u have it detected?
or have you booted with acpi=off option
or something like that
hmm, im a newbe
me too
i started with no options, just gui
with acpi=off i get a kernel panic
oh.. normally i always got something like that without it
what im hazy on is what happens when your doing echo’s from a tty to a serial when the tty has odd settings that don’t match the serial. i would assume you would need to match baud and settings of ttyS0 no?
hi all
hi lla
when I start my pc
hi
I enter into a shell
rather than a login screen
why
it shows sh-3.1
i will retry with acpi=off
do you have gdm,kdm… installed nayana
cat /proc/cmdline, curious, did you get a busybox initrd shell? sry, dont know the exact look of it off top of my head
XtypeWriter74, gdm installed
as well as kdm
MangosDebian,
yes
read the logs: serial and local term do not have the same settings. After playing with all options, I now got it working: srial sends again, and 012 is now only one. Thanks for tip. Now need to know what is the minimal command to get this result after reboot :s
XtypeWriter74, what needs to be done
what did you change anyways? serial still somewhat a hit and miss with me
everytime I restart gdm
before: speed 9600 baud; line = 0; -brkint -imaxbel
now : speed 9600 baud; line = 0; -brkint -imaxbel
does it trouble if one installs kdm and gdm?
?
thats the same lol
oh
hell, it’s the same :s
why the names
well, least you have the same issue i have lol. voodoo!
cdrom detected !!
check your tty too in case it changed? by chance, did you run minicom once?
error, I repaste:
before: speed 9600 baud; line = 0; -brkint -imaxbel
What motherboard chipset are you using ?
now : speed 9600 baud; line = 0; -brkint -imaxbel -opost -isig (but there are too much, I should not have try RAW )
so is your system fully starting? or not? srry, not sure what you meant by just “yes”
MangosDebian, system starts fully
I dont run Minicom before 3 days consecutive problems, cause it usually add more …
but a warning of power-manager is shown
as dbus needs to be started
Hi all
how could I install mkinitrd command with debian packages?
I’m used to do mkinitrd -o /boot/vmlinuz /lib/modules/….
almost sounds like your system is starting in runlevel single or something. what does: cat /proc/cmdline show?
try lspci -nn from a shell
i don’t know what motherboard chipset… Acer Travelmate 525TE
MangosDebian,
How new is it ?
i think its 7 years old
700Mhz
MangosDebian, root=/dev/sda9 splash=silent vga=791
but i still dont have a shell, im installing ( i think)
what does: runlevel report?
?intel?
yup pentium III
i just saw the sticker
its a donated pc
apparantly you can install if you use the pci=off boot parameter (after the first boot don’t use it anymore)
anyone who knows this please?
MangosDebian, N 2
You need to use a full install cd as pci=off disables the network card
how to install mkinitrd on debian?
“stty -F /dev/ttyS1 raw” seems ok
negative
i use netinstall
well, i suppose your best bet is to stty to reset it to raw and then stty to the needed settings in rc.local perhaps?
with acpi=off
and it gets my cdrom and ethernet configured
im just downloading packets
what does the word “uninstallable” mean, not able to install , or able to uninstall?
with apt-cache mkinitrd
does not exist
search^
only exists Yaird
on etch unless
yeah
no Debian atm, but, startup process has no secret for me. Problem is to know what to type.
If I do apt-cache search mkinitrd does not appear this
only yaird
well, perhaps its related to that dbus or something. I dont know anything about it or what else might be causing your sh shell then. sry
what command shuts down the computer?
halt
halt -p
shutdown
AMAZING BUT TRUE
well, start with raw and add options til you get it working no?
halt -hip, will shutdown an ATX supply the hard way
shutdown: command not found
halt: command not found
id
http://yaird.alioth.debian.org/yaird.htmlRamattack
bee root
s/ee/e
/sbin/halt (sbin never in USER PATH, cause user dont need super commands )
what graphical interface you use for webdesign, if any uses it for it??
root dont have sbin in PATH if accessed through sudo bash (remember, he is on Ubuntu )
firefox
he’s on ubuntu?
you’re on ubuntu?
from memory, he “was”
does that fit for you ?
not vanksi, viller !
yehyeh
1) viller: lol I’m so used to Ubuntu. It asked for a password once in every terminal emulator/emulator’s
wtf
stupid sudo-using ubuntards
hehe
lol
!spank sudo
if you’re going to use a dumb blanket policy, at least UNDERSTAND how it works
whats wrong with using sudo ?
Incidently is there a way to set which so that it also searches /sbin /usr/sbin (perhaps aliasing it to something else – whence?)
nothing, as long as you UNDERSTAND it
“which” being the command
set the PATH variable appropriately
hi all
http://pastebin.com/d3706397c
4 file named[5387]: client 192.168.0.89#1059: view internal: query (cache) ‘us.bc.yahoo.com/A/IN’
tell #dns
how do I fix this
But then I have those directories in my PATH (and I don’t want that)
(for sudo I can use – zstyle ‘:completion:*:sudo:*’ command-path /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin \ /usr/sbin /usr/bin /sbin /bin
set it temporarily – alias swhich=”PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH which”
I had been asking both in #bind and #dns but no response
for one of a million possible ways
good luck, then.
you’re getting that output where?
syslog
it might be you just have logging set too sensitive
it’s been years since I looked at a bind config though
Good idea (looking in the wrong places) thanks
my LAN unable to perform the query
I had set the match client 192.168.0.0/24
and it should perform the query
oh, right
i didn’t see the `denied’
why not just allow any client?
is recursion on
it’s not like it burns resources, or is a security risk.
recursion yes;
I got two view
and the match clients is for your internal view?
that means nothing to me
oh
view internal and view external
i see
yes
beyond my sk1lz thenm
gives different answers according to the address of the client
yeh, i grok
when you’re in X, why does fgconsole fail with “Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console” unless run as root?
it accept the query but return denied
i have: acl internals { 127.0.0.0/8; 10.0.0.0/16; }; , and view “internal” {match-clients { internals; };
and it works fine
My bind9 config is: http://pastebin.com/d3706397c
does named-checkconf think its ok?
never tried that
rndc querylog toggles verbose logging
got nothing
I ran both rndc querylog toggles verbose logging and named-checkconf and it return nothing at all
hi
if i want to uninstall vmware what is the command
tail syslog
you mean after running what?
rndc querylog
also, you’ll want to tell named-checkconf which file to check
I got verbose output in syslog
and can also see the denied
you have lwresd installed too or something?
other queries work ok?
?
my dmz able to resolve
my dmz is at 192.168.2.0/24
you have lwresd installed too or something?
sorry I don’t get you
I only ask cause: named[5387]: client 192.168.0.89#1059:….
i assume thats src port though
named-checkconf named.conf result nothing as well
was just wondering if you had some sort of caching ns that wasnt restarted or something odd, cause I cant see anything wrong with yout conf either :/
ok
right, you could try, for the sake of it, putting 192.168.0.0/16 in your internal view
hmm, client from a 192.168.0.0/24 but your not listing on that ip?
yes
my bind9 is listening at 192.168.2.19
I mean the eth0 ip for bind9 is 192.168.2.19
so
ya nm
1 file named[3425]: client 192.168.0.74#1081: view internal: query (cache) ’stats.update.microsoft.com/A/IN’
are you using a forwarder?
forwarders {};
that or are you using root servers in any other conf?
I had paste my conf
and that’s are all
could you try commenting out the listen-on line
well, i assume your hint is the root server list and up to date?
he says it works for on subnet
s/on/one/
the external view is working
the external view doesnt do recursion, tho
192.168.2.0/24 where my bind9 in it working
When I run an apt-get update, I get a : W: GPG error: http://mirror.eftel.com stable Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
Anyone know the cause?
view external recursion no
view internal recursion yes
whats your root.cache look like?
I don’t have one
does the box have an interface for 192.168.0.0 or.. ?
no
you dont have one what?
so, how do those clients reach that box?
a /etc/bind/int/root.cache?
I don’t have the root.cache file
!?
sec
how do you expect to get dns if you dont prime root servers or use forwarding?
ok I got that in int
your box has no idea where to ask for dns otherwise
yes I got that
can you paste it plz?
wow that’s long
sec
should only be 45lines or so
did you try changing the acl like i said?
unless your primting it with cache dns and not root servers
isnt this moot if it works for some clients?
I don’t think I got acl
the match clients statement
his master zones arent the same though
how do I have one? where can I append?
i suggested changing it to 192.168.0.0/16
ahh ok, looks fine. just worried you were using some cache dns for your hint and no root servers. skip that idea then
how the line gonna be?
remove 192.168.0.0/24; and change 192.168.2.0/24; to 192.168.0.0/16;
any reason why?
it doesnt seem to be allowing queries from 192.168.0.x
I got many LAN users here
ok?
if I put /16 it gonna limit my no of users?
no
ok
let me try
same
denied
you restarted bind?
sure I did
let me try to remove bind and reinstall it back
i wouldnt bother doing that
heh
ya
try commenting out the listen-on line
in which view
it cant be that though
its not in a view
gah
theres only one listen on line
we know 1) the netmask is fine cause of the error and 2) its hitting the view match
ok
comment listen-on
let me try
hi. how do i rename all files in a dir from foo.jpg in foo_.jpg?
double check the syslog perhaps and look for typos in your paths to root.cache and file permissions etc
!rename
hmm
although thats a shot in the dark more than anything :/
!kill dpkg
same
ah, it’s a bot command
I had comment listen-on and it results same
man rename
cydork, okay, i am on it
What’s the ssl certificate file? I can’t seem to find apache2-ssl-certificate on this system?
make-ssl-cert
Thanks
it cant be listen-on if named is telling you about the cached request and the view it matched. its not the matching code thats causing this. have you tried a new dns that wouldnt be cached yet just in case its cache related?
what does s/\.bak// mean?
let me try
Still getting command not found …
you perhaps need to install it
hmm, but you did restart bind so it shouldnt be that. when you restart bind, what does syslog say? nothing special?
same
i mean s/\.bak$// mean?
Oh, right, I overlooked openssl.deb
basically find the string .bak and delete it
Cheers
so s means delete it?
no, it’s substitute
i think its in ssl-cert
substitute .bak with nothing?
Has anybody used Openoffice on AMD64 yet?
Thanks
probably
antgel, what are all the / and \ about?
I am switching to AMD64 mode today. I am tired of this 32-bit bullshit.
I heard for a long time the code wasn’t 64-safe.
that’s my syslog upon restarting bind9
man sed
so maybe not
argh
antgel, will look it up
it will remove the “.bak” extension from files.
cydork, i noticed this by testing the command. i want to adapt it for my purpose. but found now answer in man sed. the command is s/string/string/modus
ow’s it possible that temperature readings works fine in kernel 2.6.22.1 but only thermal zone is shown in kernel 2.6.23 ? (via-686a-9191)
in 2.6.22 my SATA controller doesn’t fucking work
clear
I just reinstall my bind9
and getting this error http://pastebin.com/d36455d42
huh? to rename foo.jpg to foo_.jpb you need ’s/\.jpg$/_.jpg/’
yes, i know
Stopping domain name service…: bindrndc: connection to remote host closed
everything works nice in 22 poorly in 23
ok sec
allow-recursion vs. recursion
ok ok
I forget to putback the rndc.key
recursion doesnt allow adding new stuff to cache (ie: new stuff) it seems. “it only prevents new data from being cached as an effect of client queries”. Then they say “So we now use: allow-query-cache…” for that
http://www.webservertalk.com/message1922973.html
XtypeWriter74, thanks a lot truthly mates
see you!
bye
what should I look for
do you want me to change any line of my named.conf?
look at the “Kal Feher” post
try use allow-recursion instead of just recursion i think is what they are saying in your view
the whole thread seems to go over what your dealing with though. hope that helps
ok
so instead of having recursion yes; I should use allow-recursion; ?
although it doesnt explain why its only trying to use the cache when clearly the host you query werent cache *shrug*
ya, try it
or optionally, since its just cache denied, perhaps: allow-query-cache {} in your view since its loclnets and localhost acls by default
‘/etc/bind/named.conf:7: ‘{‘ expected near ‘;’
hi, i am using etch on an acer aspire notebook. It has a crystal eye webcam. How can i configure it to work on etch? do i need to install some non-etch stuff for that?
Hi, I have some machines on a NIS domain. Is there someway to centralize Printers, instead of defining them on every client ?!
put in the hosts from match-clients, same syntax
you mean inside the match-clients {}?
ya, i think its an acl not a boolean, i can check manual though if you give a sec
‘/etc/bind/named.conf:7: undefined ACL ‘allow-recursion’
ya, its an acl
same format as match-clients, dont miss anything
“cron[31938]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 0000000000000000 rsp 00007fff8305b4e8 error 14″. This happens each and everytime cron has something to do. I ran it through strace and got this: http://pastebin.ca/642903. Etch AMD64
ok
yes!
thank you man
gah
any eta on nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7 being .22?
np. might want recursion yes; in there too. not sure if they are mutually exclusive though. hard to tell by the wording
well, try resolve something locally on the server just in case. perhaps with and without it
I just restarted my server ahaks! I will add the recursion yes as well
what version of debian are you using?
lenny
I am using unstable
also, try allow-query-cache instead of allow-recursion, and put recursion yes; back in. im thinking you only really ever needed allow-query-cache
lenny is testing not unstable
i must take note of that change for when i upgrade..
ops sorry
I am using unstable
guess that explains why ive never had it. i only recall ever using allow-recursion in my setups
MangosDebian so I just change allow-recursion with allow-query-cache?
ya, try that, and put back in recursion yes; curious if thats all you needed. and restart to flush the cache
done that and it works
i only suggest that since the error was specifically a cache denied, and thats what allow-query-cache seems to be for if you follow me.
test localhost for the bind box queries too. don’t want something to break
ok
i can’t remove a package, dpkg keeps dying
paste it?
can you try to use my dns
whats your ip?
I guess I can’t resolve from outside
http://rafb.net/p/dVKrgN13.html
ns.azrb.com
you shouldnt be able too
sec
are you running stable?
or 60.49.246.154
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 12371
Nope
I am running bind9 for internal and external
up-to-date amd64 sid
some1 knows why make modules sometimes recompiles all and sometimes only new added features ?
i know, but you dont WANT to resolve anything else for external. only answer queries for your dns
so you’re expected to know what to do i recommend you report the bug though – it’s not in the BTS
uso you’re expected to know what to do i recommend you report the bug though – it’s not in the BTS/u
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